Maybe I''m anal but I like fat-free JS, so I pulled the Proptotype and core Scriptaculous files into one single JS file at 49Kb. It''s "packed" so if you care about that kind of thing, it''s also "obfuscated". Download from my personal site at www.alistercameron.com. - Alister PS. Of course this is the current version as posted on the Scriptaculous site. Alister Cameron Managing Director <http://www.cameroncreative.com/images/cc_logo_small.gif> <http://www.cameroncreative.com/> Cameron Creative PO Box 4321 <http://maps.google.com/maps?q=PO+Box+4321%2CBurwood+East%2CVIC+3151%2CAustr alia&hl=en> Burwood East, VIC 3151 Australia Mobile: 04 0404 5555 Fax: 03 8610 0050 Email: alister-geAgnekw0uYTb+k2wbQi60EOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org IM: alistercameron (Skype) See who we know <https://www.linkedin.com/e/wwk/2362425/> in common Want a signature <https://www.linkedin.com/e/sig/2362425/> like this? _______________________________________________ Rails-spinoffs mailing list Rails-spinoffs-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails-spinoffs
I was also thinking about packing the libs somehow as they are rather large. The unpacked versions for development are fine, but it''d be nice to just run a script in a production environment to pack the libs down each time an upgrade of the libs are performed. I see that packer is also available as a perl script so that would be useful to remove the manual process of making the packed version each time. Link to the perl script from here for anybody interested http://dean.edwards.name/download/#packer. thanks On 1/4/06, Alister Cameron <alicam-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > Maybe I''m anal but I like fat-free JS, so I pulled the Proptotype and core > Scriptaculous files into one single JS file at 49Kb. > > It''s "packed" so if you care about that kind of thing, it''s also > "obfuscated". > > Download from my personal site at www.alistercameron.com. > > - Alister > > PS. Of course this is the current version as posted on the Scriptaculous > site. > > > *Alister Cameron* > Managing Director > > *Cameron Creative* <http://www.cameroncreative.com/> > PO Box 4321 > > <http://maps.google.com/maps?q=PO+Box+4321%2CBurwood+East%2CVIC+3151%2CAustralia&hl=en>Burwood > East, VIC 3151 > Australia > *Mobile:* 04 0404 5555 > *Fax:* 03 8610 0050 > *Email:* alister-geAgnekw0uYTb+k2wbQi60EOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org > *IM:* alistercameron (Skype) > See who we know in common <https://www.linkedin.com/e/wwk/2362425/> Want > a signature like this? <https://www.linkedin.com/e/sig/2362425/> > > > _______________________________________________ > Rails-spinoffs mailing list > Rails-spinoffs-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails-spinoffs > > >_______________________________________________ Rails-spinoffs mailing list Rails-spinoffs-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails-spinoffs
My "contribution" was the hours of fiddling given that the "packing" process only works once all the missing semi-colons are put in. By this I mean that to all carriage returns are removed as part of the space-saving process. This breaks the existing code, unless a whole stack of semi-colons are laboriously found and put in. Dunno how to speed that up. It just takes going round and round in the packer script and the JS debugger to see where the next missing semi-colon is. Sure, I can see a lot of them, but many are very well hidden :) - Alister _____ From: Andrew Kaspick [mailto:akaspick-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org] Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 2:25 AM To: alister-O1wSWwicKgfjklIxxw1+M9BPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org; rails-spinoffs-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org Subject: Re: [Rails-spinoffs] Scriptaculous + Prototype shrunk to < 50Kb I was also thinking about packing the libs somehow as they are rather large. The unpacked versions for development are fine, but it''d be nice to just run a script in a production environment to pack the libs down each time an upgrade of the libs are performed. I see that packer is also available as a perl script so that would be useful to remove the manual process of making the packed version each time. Link to the perl script from here for anybody interested http://dean.edwards.name/download/#packer. thanks On 1/4/06, Alister Cameron < alicam-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org <mailto:alicam-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> > wrote: Maybe I''m anal but I like fat-free JS, so I pulled the Proptotype and core Scriptaculous files into one single JS file at 49Kb. It''s "packed" so if you care about that kind of thing, it''s also "obfuscated". Download from my personal site at www.alistercameron.com. - Alister PS. Of course this is the current version as posted on the Scriptaculous site. Alister Cameron Managing Director <http://www.cameroncreative.com/images/cc_logo_small.gif> <http://www.cameroncreative.com/> Cameron Creative PO Box 4321 <http://maps.google.com/maps?q=PO+Box+4321%2CBurwood+East%2CVIC+3151%2CAustr alia&hl=en> Burwood East, VIC 3151 Australia Mobile: 04 0404 5555 Fax: 03 8610 0050 Email: alister-geAgnekw0uYTb+k2wbQi60EOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org IM: alistercameron (Skype) See who we <https://www.linkedin.com/e/wwk/2362425/> know in common Want a <https://www.linkedin.com/e/sig/2362425/> signature like this? _______________________________________________ Rails-spinoffs mailing list Rails-spinoffs-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org <mailto:Rails-spinoffs-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org> http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails-spinoffs _______________________________________________ Rails-spinoffs mailing list Rails-spinoffs-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails-spinoffs
I would recommend the Dojo compressor for um... compressing, it uses the Rhino JS parser which Firefox uses, so it ''understands'' the code rather than just applying a few rules. This means no chance of breaking the code as a result of compressing. The code is not in its most compressed form, and still could be compressed further after it is Dojo''d if you want more obfuscation, but you can usually reduce the footprint by 50%. Its quick, its easy, and risk free in terms of breaking things. - Chris On 1/4/06, Alister Cameron <alicam-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > My "contribution" was the hours of fiddling given that the "packing" > process only works once all the missing semi-colons are put in. By this I > mean that to all carriage returns are removed as part of the space-saving > process. This breaks the existing code, unless a whole stack of semi-colons > are laboriously found and put in. > > Dunno how to speed that up. It just takes going round and round in the > packer script and the JS debugger to see where the next missing semi-colon > is. Sure, I can see a lot of them, but many are very well hidden :) > > - Alister > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Andrew Kaspick [mailto:akaspick-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org] > *Sent:* Thursday, January 05, 2006 2:25 AM > *To:* alister-O1wSWwicKgfjklIxxw1+M9BPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org; rails-spinoffs-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > *Subject:* Re: [Rails-spinoffs] Scriptaculous + Prototype shrunk to < 50Kb > > I was also thinking about packing the libs somehow as they are rather > large. The unpacked versions for development are fine, but it''d be nice to > just run a script in a production environment to pack the libs down each > time an upgrade of the libs are performed. I see that packer is also > available as a perl script so that would be useful to remove the manual > process of making the packed version each time. Link to the perl script > from here for anybody interested http://dean.edwards.name/download/#packer > . > > thanks > > On 1/4/06, Alister Cameron < alicam-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > Maybe I''m anal but I like fat-free JS, so I pulled the Proptotype and > > core Scriptaculous files into one single JS file at 49Kb. > > > > It''s "packed" so if you care about that kind of thing, it''s also > > "obfuscated". > > > > Download from my personal site at www.alistercameron.com. > > > > - Alister > > > > PS. Of course this is the current version as posted on the Scriptaculous > > site. > > > > > > *Alister Cameron* > > Managing Director > > > > *Cameron Creative* <http://www.cameroncreative.com/> > > PO Box 4321 > > > > <http://maps.google.com/maps?q=PO+Box+4321%2CBurwood+East%2CVIC+3151%2CAustralia&hl=en>Burwood > > East, VIC 3151 > > Australia > > *Mobile:* 04 0404 5555 > > *Fax:* 03 8610 0050 > > *Email:* alister-geAgnekw0uYTb+k2wbQi60EOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org > > *IM:* alistercameron (Skype) > > See who we know in common <https://www.linkedin.com/e/wwk/2362425/> Want > > a signature like this? <https://www.linkedin.com/e/sig/2362425/> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rails-spinoffs mailing list > > Rails-spinoffs-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails-spinoffs > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rails-spinoffs mailing list > Rails-spinoffs-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails-spinoffs > > >_______________________________________________ Rails-spinoffs mailing list Rails-spinoffs-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails-spinoffs
I''ve tried the Dojo compressor a while ago, and it didn''t get it right. Any experiments are welcome, of course :) -Thomas Am 05.01.2006 um 17:11 schrieb Chris Korhonen:> I would recommend the Dojo compressor for um... compressing, it > uses the Rhino JS parser which Firefox uses, so it ''understands'' > the code rather than just applying a few rules. This means no > chance of breaking the code as a result of compressing. > > The code is not in its most compressed form, and still could be > compressed further after it is Dojo''d if you want more obfuscation, > but you can usually reduce the footprint by 50%. Its quick, its > easy, and risk free in terms of breaking things. > > - Chris > > On 1/4/06, Alister Cameron <alicam-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > My "contribution" was the hours of fiddling given that the > "packing" process only works once all the missing semi-colons are > put in. By this I mean that to all carriage returns are removed as > part of the space-saving process. This breaks the existing code, > unless a whole stack of semi-colons are laboriously found and put in. > > Dunno how to speed that up. It just takes going round and round in > the packer script and the JS debugger to see where the next missing > semi-colon is. Sure, I can see a lot of them, but many are very > well hidden :) > > - Alister > > From: Andrew Kaspick [mailto:akaspick-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org] > Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 2:25 AM > To: alister-O1wSWwicKgfjklIxxw1+M9BPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org; rails-spinoffs-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > Subject: Re: [Rails-spinoffs] Scriptaculous + Prototype shrunk to < > 50Kb > > I was also thinking about packing the libs somehow as they are > rather large. The unpacked versions for development are fine, but > it''d be nice to just run a script in a production environment to > pack the libs down each time an upgrade of the libs are performed. > I see that packer is also available as a perl script so that would > be useful to remove the manual process of making the packed version > each time. Link to the perl script from here for anybody > interested http://dean.edwards.name/download/#packer. > > thanks > > On 1/4/06, Alister Cameron < alicam-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > Maybe I''m anal but I like fat-free JS, so I pulled the Proptotype > and core Scriptaculous files into one single JS file at 49Kb. > > It''s "packed" so if you care about that kind of thing, it''s also > "obfuscated". > > Download from my personal site at www.alistercameron.com. > > - Alister > > PS. Of course this is the current version as posted on the > Scriptaculous site. > > > Alister Cameron > Managing Director > > > Cameron Creative > PO Box 4321 > Burwood East, VIC 3151 > Australia > Mobile: 04 0404 5555 > Fax: 03 8610 0050 > Email: alister-geAgnekw0uYTb+k2wbQi60EOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org > IM: alistercameron (Skype) > See who we know in common Want a signature like this? > > > _______________________________________________ > Rails-spinoffs mailing list > Rails-spinoffs-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails-spinoffs > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rails-spinoffs mailing list > Rails-spinoffs-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails-spinoffs > > > > <cc_logo_small.gif> > _______________________________________________ > Rails-spinoffs mailing list > Rails-spinoffs-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails-spinoffs_______________________________________________ Rails-spinoffs mailing list Rails-spinoffs-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails-spinoffs
I just use mod_gzip on my apache server and all my pages get compressed to a fraction of their size automatically. Haven''t seen any problems with it yet, but I hear Netscape 4 has issues :-) Not that I support browsers that old. Greg _______________________________________________ Rails-spinoffs mailing list Rails-spinoffs-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails-spinoffs
Really? I''ve ran Prototype/Scriptaculous though it before and they seemed to work with no problems. What didn''t it get right? On 1/5/06, Thomas Fuchs <t.fuchs-moWQItti3gBl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > I''ve tried the Dojo compressor a while ago, and it didn''t get it right. > Any experiments are welcome, of course :)_______________________________________________ Rails-spinoffs mailing list Rails-spinoffs-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails-spinoffs
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Re: Scriptaculous + Prototype shrunk to < 50Kb
>it uses the Rhino JS parser which Firefox usesWell, that''s not true at all. Firefox uses the C based Javascript implementation in the Mozilla source tree. Rhino is pure Java, and there are differences in how they behave, including breaking your code on occasion. However, if you can get the Dojo compressor working on prototype/scriptaculous, all the merrier. Here are pointers to the Dojo Compressor toolkit itself, an OS/X app, and the online shrinksafe service: http://dojotoolkit.org/docs/compressor_system.html http://download.dojotoolkit.org/osxapp/shrinksafe/ http://alex.dojotoolkit.org/shrinksafe/ Let us know what you find! -San --- Chris Korhonen <ckorhonen-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> I would recommend the Dojo compressor for um... > compressing, it uses the > Rhino JS parser which Firefox uses, so it > ''understands'' the code rather than > just applying a few rules. This means no chance of > breaking the code as a > result of compressing. > > The code is not in its most compressed form, and > still could be compressed > further after it is Dojo''d if you want more > obfuscation, but you can usually > reduce the footprint by 50%. Its quick, its easy, > and risk free in terms of > breaking things. > > - Chris > > On 1/4/06, Alister Cameron <alicam-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > My "contribution" was the hours of fiddling given > that the "packing" > > process only works once all the missing > semi-colons are put in. By this I > > mean that to all carriage returns are removed as > part of the space-saving > > process. This breaks the existing code, unless a > whole stack of semi-colons > > are laboriously found and put in. > > > > Dunno how to speed that up. It just takes going > round and round in the > > packer script and the JS debugger to see where the > next missing semi-colon > > is. Sure, I can see a lot of them, but many are > very well hidden :) > > > > - Alister > > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Andrew Kaspick [mailto:akaspick-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org] > > *Sent:* Thursday, January 05, 2006 2:25 AM > > *To:* alister-O1wSWwicKgfjklIxxw1+M9BPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org; > rails-spinoffs-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > > *Subject:* Re: [Rails-spinoffs] Scriptaculous + > Prototype shrunk to < 50Kb > > > > I was also thinking about packing the libs somehow > as they are rather > > large. The unpacked versions for development are > fine, but it''d be nice to > > just run a script in a production environment to > pack the libs down each > > time an upgrade of the libs are performed. I see > that packer is also > > available as a perl script so that would be useful > to remove the manual > > process of making the packed version each time. > Link to the perl script > > from here for anybody interested > http://dean.edwards.name/download/#packer > > . > > > > thanks > > > > On 1/4/06, Alister Cameron < alicam-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> > wrote: > > > > > > Maybe I''m anal but I like fat-free JS, so I > pulled the Proptotype and > > > core Scriptaculous files into one single JS file > at 49Kb. > > > > > > It''s "packed" so if you care about that kind of > thing, it''s also > > > "obfuscated". > > > > > > Download from my personal site at > www.alistercameron.com. > > > > > > - Alister > > > > > > PS. Of course this is the current version as > posted on the Scriptaculous > > > site. > > > > > > > > > *Alister Cameron* > > > Managing Director > > > > > > *Cameron Creative* > <http://www.cameroncreative.com/> > > > PO Box 4321 > > > > > > ><http://maps.google.com/maps?q=PO+Box+4321%2CBurwood+East%2CVIC+3151%2CAustralia&hl=en>Burwood> > > East, VIC 3151 > > > Australia > > > *Mobile:* 04 0404 5555 > > > *Fax:* 03 8610 0050 > > > *Email:* alister-geAgnekw0uYTb+k2wbQi60EOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org > > > *IM:* alistercameron (Skype) > > > See who we know in common > <https://www.linkedin.com/e/wwk/2362425/> Want > > > a signature like this? > <https://www.linkedin.com/e/sig/2362425/> > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Rails-spinoffs mailing list > > > Rails-spinoffs-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > > > >http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails-spinoffs> > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rails-spinoffs mailing list > > Rails-spinoffs-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > > >http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails-spinoffs> > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rails-spinoffs mailing list > Rails-spinoffs-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org >http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails-spinoffs>__________________________________________ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com
I just played around with it ages ago, the issue is probably fixed now. So please report any successes -- also, a patch for the scriptaculous trunk to automatically create a compressed version when running rake would be a nice thing... :) -Thomas Am 05.01.2006 um 19:54 schrieb Chris Korhonen:> Really? I''ve ran Prototype/Scriptaculous though it before and they > seemed to work with no problems. What didn''t it get right? > > On 1/5/06, Thomas Fuchs < t.fuchs-moWQItti3gBl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org> wrote: > I''ve tried the Dojo compressor a while ago, and it didn''t get it > right. Any experiments are welcome, of course :) > > _______________________________________________ > Rails-spinoffs mailing list > Rails-spinoffs-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails-spinoffs_______________________________________________ Rails-spinoffs mailing list Rails-spinoffs-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails-spinoffs
Most proxy servers don''t support gzip-compressed so corporate users still aren''t going to benefit from mod_gzip. :-( On 1/6/06, Gregory Hill <Gregory_Hill-l9nu40+TWxQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > > > I just use mod_gzip on my apache server and all my pages get compressed to a > fraction of their size automatically. Haven''t seen any problems with it > yet, but I hear Netscape 4 has issues J Not that I support browsers that > old. > > > > Greg > _______________________________________________ > Rails-spinoffs mailing list > Rails-spinoffs-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails-spinoffs > > >
Jon Tirsen wrote:> Most proxy servers don''t support gzip-compressed so corporate users > still aren''t going to benefit from mod_gzip. > > :-(But wouldn''t corporate connections more than likely be on a fatter pipe (especilly those using sophisticated enough to be using proxies) so the weight of the library is much less of a concern for them over "general" web surfers which maybe be more likey to benefit from the compression? I''m assuming that the general web surfers aren''t going through proxies themselves, of which I have no knowledge as to the prevelance of proxies so could be assuming incorrectly. Danilo Celic
> Most proxy servers don''t support gzip-compressed so corporate users > still aren''t going to benefit from mod_gzip. >We have a squid proxy here at work and it seems to be accepting the pages just fine. Or at least all the headers are there; maybe the actual data was received uncompressed? Greg
My experience as a consultant for many large corporations is, that while they do typically have "fatter pipes", bandwidth per user is actually less than what I get at home because I''m not sharing the bandwidth with everyone else in the corporation.> Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 14:53:22 -0600> From: danilo-Ze2OYZUuWJZZR9JFjMNfqQ@public.gmane.org> To: rails-spinoffs-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org> Subject: Re: [Rails-spinoffs] Scriptaculous + Prototype shrunk to < 50Kb> > Jon Tirsen wrote:>> Most proxy servers don''t support gzip-compressed so corporate users>> still aren''t going to benefit from mod_gzip.>> >> :-(> > But wouldn''t corporate connections more than likely be on a fatter pipe (especilly those using sophisticated enough to be using proxies) so the weight of the library is much less of a concern for them over "general" web surfers which maybe be more likey to benefit from the compression?> > I''m assuming that the general web surfers aren''t going through proxies themselves, of which I have no knowledge as to the prevelance of proxies so could be assuming incorrectly.> > > > Danilo Celic> > _______________________________________________> Rails-spinoffs mailing list> Rails-spinoffs-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org> http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails-spinoffs_________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it''s FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ Rails-spinoffs mailing list Rails-spinoffs-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails-spinoffs
Yeah, but if they''re using a proxy, they should be caching the pages anyway, right? My experience as a consultant for many large corporations is, that while they do typically have "fatter pipes", bandwidth per user is actually less than what I get at home because I''m not sharing the bandwidth with everyone else in the corporation. _______________________________________________ Rails-spinoffs mailing list Rails-spinoffs-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails-spinoffs
On 1/6/06, Gregory Hill <Gregory_Hill-l9nu40+TWxQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Yeah, but if they''re using a proxy, they should be caching the pages anyway, > right?Not necessarily. The main reason corporate users use a proxy is that they don''t want to give direct outbound access to the internet to clients. So the firewall is set up to allow *no* traffic from or to normal clients and the proxy is the only server where outbound traffic is allowed. Caching is commonly just turned off.
On 1/6/06, Gregory Hill <Gregory_Hill-l9nu40+TWxQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > Most proxy servers don''t support gzip-compressed so corporate users > > still aren''t going to benefit from mod_gzip. > > We have a squid proxy here at work and it seems to be accepting the > pages just fine. Or at least all the headers are there; maybe the > actual data was received uncompressed?Squid does support it. Unfortunately most IS departments aren''t competent enough to use the best proxy server available.
Meh, our network at work absolutely blows...on bad days, its as low as 2-3k per second download speeds. I work for DuPont...you''d think they could afford proper networks (and proper management of them....) :) On 1/5/06, Jon Tirsen <jon-fQK1VBTDpnXQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > On 1/6/06, Gregory Hill <Gregory_Hill-l9nu40+TWxQ@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > Most proxy servers don''t support gzip-compressed so corporate users > > > still aren''t going to benefit from mod_gzip. > > > > We have a squid proxy here at work and it seems to be accepting the > > pages just fine. Or at least all the headers are there; maybe the > > actual data was received uncompressed? > > Squid does support it. Unfortunately most IS departments aren''t > competent enough to use the best proxy server available. > _______________________________________________ > Rails-spinoffs mailing list > Rails-spinoffs-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails-spinoffs >_______________________________________________ Rails-spinoffs mailing list Rails-spinoffs-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails-spinoffs
OK. The best I could do with DOJO was 91Kb. Compared to the file I created at 49Kb. I haven''t actually tested the DOJO version to see if it broke, though. I would have to assume it''s ok, since my source was pretty robust (I''d cleaned the originals up a bit first). So there you go. Will keep fiddling to see what else I can achieve... - Alister _____ From: rails-spinoffs-bounces-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org [mailto:rails-spinoffs-bounces-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Fuchs Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 6:05 AM To: rails-spinoffs-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org Subject: Re: [Rails-spinoffs] Scriptaculous + Prototype shrunk to < 50Kb I just played around with it ages ago, the issue is probably fixed now. So please report any successes -- also, a patch for the scriptaculous trunk to automatically create a compressed version when running rake would be a nice thing... :) -Thomas Am 05.01.2006 um 19:54 schrieb Chris Korhonen: Really? I''ve ran Prototype/Scriptaculous though it before and they seemed to work with no problems. What didn''t it get right? On 1/5/06, Thomas Fuchs < t.fuchs-moWQItti3gBl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org> wrote: I''ve tried the Dojo compressor a while ago, and it didn''t get it right. Any experiments are welcome, of course :) _______________________________________________ Rails-spinoffs mailing list Rails-spinoffs-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails-spinoffs _______________________________________________ Rails-spinoffs mailing list Rails-spinoffs-1W37MKcQCpIf0INCOvqR/iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails-spinoffs
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