Hello, First, sorry about my english. I come from lamp+symfony world, i understand the MVC design and so on... my questions... 1. Should learn ruby 100% before entering the documentation for RoR? 2. Works with apache as module? 3. What about DB abstraction? something similar to PDO in php? Appreciate a few links in addition to the official. In short, a little guidance of where to start PD: I''m asking before searching extensively because I prefer opinions from people who use it and I think there are not questions too complicated to respond quickly. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
On Feb 14, 2011, at 11:28 AM, Copitux wrote:> Hello, > > First, sorry about my english. > > I come from lamp+symfony world, i understand the MVC design and so > on... my questions... > > 1. Should learn ruby 100% before entering the documentation for RoR?I''ve been interested in this for years, finally took the plunge last summer. Ruby is easy enough to pick up as you go, and Google Is Your Friend.> 2. Works with apache as module?Passenger, AKA mod_ruby, is good to go on Unix, in either Apache or Nginx.> 3. What about DB abstraction? something similar to PDO in php?ActiveRecord has various plug-ins for many databases, either SQL or no- SQL. All the biggies are covered.> > Appreciate a few links in addition to the official.Have a look back in the archives of this list. There was a great list of links posted over the weekend. Welcome to the party! Walter> > In short, a little guidance of where to start > > PD: I''m asking before searching extensively because I prefer opinions > from people who use it and I think there are not questions too > complicated to respond quickly. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails- > talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org > . > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en > . >-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
Hi! I came to Rails because I helped localizing a project from English to german. This made me curious about the possibilities that rails offered, so I started to learn rails and got the needed ruby knowledge without extra costs :-) Learning was some times hard, because I came from C and its siblings with strong typing and such, so ruby with its loose rules made me stumble very often over errors that would not even be possible with a C type language. Top posted from android Am 14.02.2011 21:50 schrieb "Copitux" <davidmedina9-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>:> Hello, > > First, sorry about my english. > > I come from lamp+symfony world, i understand the MVC design and so > on... my questions... > > 1. Should learn ruby 100% before entering the documentation for RoR? > 2. Works with apache as module? > 3. What about DB abstraction? something similar to PDO in php? > > Appreciate a few links in addition to the official. > > In short, a little guidance of where to start > > PD: I''m asking before searching extensively because I prefer opinions > from people who use it and I think there are not questions too > complicated to respond quickly. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups"Ruby on Rails: Talk" group.> To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To unsubscribe from this group, send email torubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org> For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.>-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
Hi, 1)Ruby is simple, clean and elegant, you can learn it while learning rails, it''s nearly like speaking english. 2)you can use with Apache (http://www.modrails.com/) 3)i don''t know PDO, but there is DB abstraction with Active Record http://guides.rubyonrails.org/active_record_querying.html, which makes queries object-oriented, and you can switch from DB1-mysql to DB2- postgre just by changing your config file and that won''t affect your app. I''ve heard Symfony automagically creates admin spaces on new projects ; in Rails you''ll have to make it a bit more by yourself but with scaffolding it''s rather easy. There are lots of Gems and Plugins to enrich your app with features you need (authentication, image/file uploading...) Hope you''ll enjoy Rails :) On 15 fév, 15:48, Norbert Melzer <timmel...-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Hi! > > I came to Rails because I helped localizing a project from English to > german. This made me curious about the possibilities that rails offered, so > I started to learn rails and got the needed ruby knowledge without extra > costs :-) Learning was some times hard, because I came from C and its > siblings with strong typing and such, so ruby with its loose rules made me > stumble very often over errors that would not even be possible with a C type > language. > > Top posted from android > > Am 14.02.2011 21:50 schrieb "Copitux" <davidmedi...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>:> Hello, > > > First, sorry about my english. > > > I come from lamp+symfony world, i understand the MVC design and so > > on... my questions... > > > 1. Should learn ruby 100% before entering the documentation for RoR? > > 2. Works with apache as module? > > 3. What about DB abstraction? something similar to PDO in php? > > > Appreciate a few links in addition to the official. > > > In short, a little guidance of where to start > > > PD: I''m asking before searching extensively because I prefer opinions > > from people who use it and I think there are not questions too > > complicated to respond quickly. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group.> To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org> For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
Hello Copitux, 0. Never worry about your English, it''s fine :) 1. Little Ruby is always helpful, but if you used any other prog lang like PHP then it won''t be hard. The best Rails tutorials already has a little part about Ruby you need: http://ruby.railstutorial.org/ruby-on-rails-tutorial-book -> it starts with Heroku + Git + Test-Driven Development. Souds ScArY but give a try, made it easy for me, it will worth ;) http://www.pragprog.com/titles/rails4/agile-web-development-with-rails http://guides.rubyonrails.org/ It''s very wise thing to install Rails and gems with RVM : http://rvm.beginrescueend.com/ prevents problems later. 2. Yes it works with Apache. If you try new tech like Rails also try other related technology which might be helpful: Git: http://git-scm.com/ Github for repo: https://github.com/ Heroku for hosting: http://heroku.com/ 3. DB: with Rails it''s better with PHP frameworks. Check ActiveRecord and if you want better solution I think DataMapper will amaze you: http://datamapper.org/ +1. Rails is fun. Have fun ;) gezope On febr. 14, 17:28, Copitux <davidmedi...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Hello, > > First, sorry about my english. > > I come from lamp+symfony world, i understand the MVC design and so > on... my questions... > > 1. Should learn ruby 100% before entering the documentation for RoR? > 2. Works with apache as module? > 3. What about DB abstraction? something similar to PDO in php? > > Appreciate a few links in addition to the official. > > In short, a little guidance of where to start > > PD: I''m asking before searching extensively because I prefer opinions > from people who use it and I think there are not questions too > complicated to respond quickly.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.