dovecot - Feb 2013 - Defer emails until the user is ready to deal with them (snooze button / bring-forward file / bring-up file for emails)

Hi, I would like to add a feature to my email-client (Thunderbird)
which stops emails from showing up until a specific time (e.g. having
buttons for: show again this evening, tomorrow, next week, next month
...).

As far as I've learned this is not possible with IMAP:
- storing the 'do-not-show-until-time' within a custom header-field
requires down- and uploading of the whole email and therefore causes
problems especially with large emails
- IMAP keywords are limited are limited in quantity and can not be
compared with datetime functions

Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated!

Chris

Am 16.02.2013 12:44, schrieb Chris Laif:
> Hi, I would like to add a feature to my email-client (Thunderbird)
> which stops emails from showing up until a specific time (e.g. having
> buttons for: show again this evening, tomorrow, next week, next month
> ...).
> 
> As far as I've learned this is not possible with IMAP:
> - storing the 'do-not-show-until-time' within a custom header-field
> requires down- and uploading of the whole email and therefore causes
> problems especially with large emails
sounds more like a social problem then a technical
touching the e-mails is a very very bad idea because you may break them
what does it help DOWNLOAD the mails, hide them and touch them

you said "I would like to add a feature to my email-client" so why
do you need to add headers to them? what has the server to do with
this all and why would you touch the mails for this?

if the user is not ready to deal with mails -> close TB

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Am 16.02.2013 12:44, schrieb Chris Laif:
> Hi, I would like to add a feature to my email-client (Thunderbird)
> which stops emails from showing up until a specific time (e.g. having
> buttons for: show again this evening, tomorrow, next week, next month
> ...).
yeah ,there are lot of nice new ideas with mail these days
> 
> As far as I've learned this is not possible with IMAP:
> - storing the 'do-not-show-until-time' within a custom header-field
> requires down- and uploading of the whole email and therefore causes
> problems especially with large emails
> - IMAP keywords are limited are limited in quantity and can not be
> compared with datetime functions
> 
> Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated!
however some server coders will may include new features,
that does not solve the client problem,
the only existing free major cross os imap client recent is thunderbird,
but i dont see mozilla willing to push more development in it.
After all ,there is lot of "old" bleeding edge stuff for left
implement
in Thunderbird, before including new ideas.

> 
> Chris
> 


Best Regards
MfG Robert Schetterer

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On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl at
thelounge.net> wrote:
> you said "I would like to add a feature to my email-client" so
why
> do you need to add headers to them? what has the server to do with
> this all and why would you touch the mails for this?
>
People are accessing their (IMAP-)inboxes from multiple
computers/devices these days, so all information has to be stored on
the server.

Chris

Am 16.02.2013 13:46, schrieb Chris Laif:
> On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl at
thelounge.net> wrote:
>> you said "I would like to add a feature to my email-client"
so why
>> do you need to add headers to them? what has the server to do with
>> this all and why would you touch the mails for this?
>>
> 
> People are accessing their (IMAP-)inboxes from multiple
> computers/devices these days, so all information has to be stored on
> the server.
> 
> Chris
> 
perhaps

http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3864

may helpfull



Best Regards
MfG Robert Schetterer

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On Sat, 2013-02-16 at 12:44 +0100, Chris Laif wrote:
> Hi, I would like to add a feature to my email-client (Thunderbird)
> which stops emails from showing up until a specific time (e.g. having
> buttons for: show again this evening, tomorrow, next week, next month
> ...).
> 
> As far as I've learned this is not possible with IMAP:
> - storing the 'do-not-show-until-time' within a custom header-field
> requires down- and uploading of the whole email and therefore causes
> problems especially with large emails
> - IMAP keywords are limited are limited in quantity and can not be
> compared with datetime functions
http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5257 could be used for this. Of course,
Dovecot doesn't support it, and it's not easy to implement efficiently.

Probably not too difficult to implement inefficiently with v2.2's
mailbox_attribute_* API. Just create /annotations/<uid>/<key>
mailbox
attributes and delete them when the mails get expunged..

Robert Schetterer wrote:
> Am 18.02.2013 10:03, schrieb Steffen Kaiser:
> > move the messages back to INBOX
> ideally such functions should be able to handle from a thunderbird plugin
What about
http://mailmindr.net/

Regards
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Am 18.02.2013 21:36, schrieb Daniel Parthey:
> Robert Schetterer wrote:
>> Am 18.02.2013 10:03, schrieb Steffen Kaiser:
>>> move the messages back to INBOX
>> ideally such functions should be able to handle from a thunderbird
plugin
> 
> What about
> http://mailmindr.net/
> 
> Regards
> Daniel
> 
Hi Daniel, simply try it , and look if it fits to your needs, but i
guess there is no real relation to the imap server you use, it may be a
client function ,only, please test and report



Best Regards
MfG Robert Schetterer

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