Check this clip (it's small, 373kb) http://www.geocities.com/jdxss/udialwav.zip It left oggenc, lame and MP+ encoders choking in dust. -- Vorbis Xtreme | http://solair.eunet.yu/~aldov/ Ogg Vorbis is the free, open source alternative to MP3 --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
Oww! You should have put a warning in that e-mail. I played that straight WAV file in Winamp, and ended up clutching my ears. Piercing, high-pitched madness. Painful. Needs a low-pass filter badly. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aleksandar Dovnikovic" <aldov@EUnet.yu> To: <vorbis@xiph.org> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 7:32 PM Subject: [vorbis] A killer clip> Check this clip (it's small, 373kb) > > http://www.geocities.com/jdxss/udialwav.zip > > It left oggenc, lame and MP+ encoders choking in dust. > > > -- > Vorbis Xtreme | http://solair.eunet.yu/~aldov/ > Ogg Vorbis is the free, open source alternative to MP3 > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. >--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
On Sat, Jul 28, 2001 at 01:32:30AM +0200, Aleksandar Dovnikovic wrote:> Check this clip (it's small, 373kb) > > http://www.geocities.com/jdxss/udialwav.zip > > It left oggenc, lame and MP+ encoders choking in dust.Wow. I'm going to have to keep this file around. It managed to physically damage the crappy PC speakers connected to my box at work! Their internal amplifyer is no longer working. Totally weird. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
On Sat, Jul 28, 2001 at 01:32:30AM +0200, Aleksandar Dovnikovic wrote:> Check this clip (it's small, 373kb) > > http://www.geocities.com/jdxss/udialwav.zip > > It left oggenc, lame and MP+ encoders choking in dust.Oooh, *good* one. Best killer clip anyone's found yet. (peering at it through psytune now...) Monty --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
On Saturday 28 July 2001 11:32, you wrote:> Check this clip (it's small, 373kb) > > http://www.geocities.com/jdxss/udialwav.zip > > It left oggenc, lame and MP+ encoders choking in dust.Lame 3.88 worked fine with -V1 and weighs in at about 142kbits/s average, but, indeed, chokes at anything lower, or filters it out. oggenc seems to do pretty much the same thing at any bitrate (maybe it's a little less pronounced at 350). This listening test stuff is fun :-) Where can I get copies of the standard test samples, like castenets and so forth? John --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
---- On Tue 31 Jul 2001 - 18:16:37 PDT, "Forever shall I be." <zinx@magenet.net> wrote: FSI> As for lame, the lowpass filter is killing lame.. you can FSI> encode the sample with -h -k, and it will sound ok (note that FSI> lame does understand where the min and max values are) Yes, from my own experience, in higher quality option, simply adding -b option to VBR seems to work better than adding lowpass filter. FSI> Hopefully Monty will make the vorbis encoder understand where FSI> the min/max values are, but only time will tell :) In fact, shouldn't they waste the heritage of LAME, should they? LAME earned its popularity by its own ability rather than advertisements. As long as the next version of Vorbis can prove to be worth waiting, it will defeat formats by big-mouthed patent companies. Understand open source movements and defeat cheaters in marketing departments. P.S. Peter's Winamp plug-in 1.13b seems to be out now at http://www.blorp.com/~peter/zips/. Let's give it a try and report if there is something strange at all. ;-) ___________________________________________________________________ To get your own FREE ZDNet Onebox - FREE voicemail, email, and fax, all in one place - sign up today at http://www.zdnetonebox.com --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
---- On Thu 02 Aug 2001 - 11:45:57 PDT Hongli Lai <hongli@telekabel.nl> wrote: HL> Yes, but that's because MP3 is already overhyped. HL> Many people are looking for a free MP3 encoder, and so they found LAME. HL> LAME's popularity is because of MP3's popularity. I think the conclusion would be different from the interpretation of premises... Which do you think the reason of 'MP3's popularity'? 1. Patent companies over-hyped MP3. 2. MP3 unchained music heritages from CD formats delivering new way of enjoying music to people. If the premise is 1, you are right and this should be the end of the discussion. However, if 2, there should new rules and technologies be introduced into music industry. Marriage between new technologies and new rules...probably, one of the reasons why Monty has kept calling this movements from the first place. Again, should we be the advocacy list? ;-) ___________________________________________________________________ To get your own FREE ZDNet Onebox - FREE voicemail, email, and fax, all in one place - sign up today at http://www.zdnetonebox.com --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.