Hello: I come to Samba with a strong Unix background but weak on the MS networking side. Hence I've read a lot of the Samba documentation, more than once... Something that continues to confuse me, however, is whether or not I want/need winbindd for the task at hand. Objective: replace aged NT4 domain/file server w/Samba based file server. Details: 1) approx. 25 users. stable staff environment w/low to no turnover. slow to no growth. 2) All workstations run Windows XP Pro. Only 1-2 mobile users w/ notebook pc's. 3) End users are low tech. No need to provide Unix shell, ftp, etc., accounts (sysadmin personnel are all unix geeks and use ssh). 4) email, webmail, etc. runs on dedicated servers using separate authentication systems. 5) sso is not a big win for this environment, although might be nice to migrate to LDAP backend after Samba4 goes stable so as to integrate email auth, address books, etc. OTOH, the complexities of LDAP might not be worth it for such small environment. 6) only two groups, membership and accounting. And only two members in the latter. Don't think I need complexities of nested groups ) but then I'm also not enough of a MS guy to make that call confidently at this juncture...). I'll add a managers group so management can snoop w/o having full domain admin rights. 7) posix acl's seem to work nicely with FreeBSD and Samba:) 8) stackable vfs to do some av scanning. 9) 2 network printers and too many cheap low end parallel, usb, etc inkjets that came bundled w/cheap Dell deals... None of the injets need to be accessed other than by local machine. CUPS for the two network printers. 10 Roaming profiles- not implemented in current scheme but will use on Samba replacement and begin to do more with profiles and management on backend side of things. Given the above criteria it seems pretty simple config w/Samba as PDC runing TDB supplemented w/some POSIX ACL's for group access, and clamav to handle some anti-virii scanning. I've gotten most all this working in test environment. That machine went away and is being used for other things so I no longer have the luxury;( I will soon roll out production machine something along the lines of above but I am unclear as to whether I should use WInbindd- It is unlikely any additional domain member servers will need to be added in near future. Password sync is not an issue since all we need to be concerned with is local tdb. There MAY be some need down the road to set up Squid proxy- mostly so management can track what employees are doing on the web during company time (history of abuse in the past but they have been waffling on this for sometime). ntlm_auth may or may not be a part of that picture. Too early to say at this juncture. I don't know enough about the nested and local vs. domain group of MS to make an informed decision. The last paragraph here discussing foreign sid's concerns me somewhat: <http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/winbind.html#id2619561> e.g. If a user shows up with a notebook that is not part of domain. Assuming guest account is disabled they're not going to be granted any access whatsoever unless they know user/pass/domain credentials, correct? In which case they probably are authorized. So I'm not clear on the foreign sid bit.. In absence of evidence to the contrary my inclination is to skip the added complexity and forgo winbindd. But I also don't want to get caught in a bind 6 months down the road if some new criteria emerges that requires nested groups, ntlm_auth, etc. Sorry for the long winded post and so many questions. I have an awareness of this stuff but not the experience to make a clear decision. So I'm in search of enlightenment.... TIA for your indulgement;-) -- Best regards, Ken Gunderson Q: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. A: Why is putting a reply at the top of the message frowned upon?