samba - Sep 2002 - Weekly machine password changes (RE: RE: odd: everything SHOULD work... winbind)

No big surprise there. :)

I'm still trying to figure exactly what goes on with the machine
password changing around. Who initiates this? nmbd? The PDC? Who's
notified of this change, and what's going on there.

Perhaps someone can shed some light?


--
Nir Soffer -=- Software Engineer, Exanet Inc. -=-
"Father, why are all the children weeping? / They are merely crying son
 O, are they merely crying, father? / Yes, true weeping is yet to come"
        -- Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds, The Weeping Song
 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Leuser II [mailto:dleuser@newhampton.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 4:28 PM
> To: Nir Soffer
> Cc: samba@lists.samba.org
> Subject: Re: RE: [Samba] odd: everything SHOULD work... winbind
> 
> 
> Restarting winbind didn't change things at all... I honestly 
> have no idea
> what caused it, but I rejoined my server to the domain with 
> smbpasswd, and
> the problems dissappeared.  Go figure.
> 
> nirs@exanet.com writes:
> 
> I've seen a similar problem to that when running winbind... Try
> restarting winbind? I'm starting to have a feeling that if the machine
> password is reset by nmbd, winbindd never finds out.
> 
> Anyone have any comments to that regard? I'm trying to reproduce the
> problem in a controlled environment right now, but have yet to see it
> again.
> 
> Nir.
> 
> 
> --
> Nir Soffer -=- Software Engineer, Exanet Inc. -=-
> "Father, why are all the children weeping? / They are merely 
> crying son
>  O, are they merely crying, father? / Yes, true weeping is 
> yet to come"
>         -- Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds, The Weeping Song
>  
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David Leuser II [mailto:dleuser@newhampton.org]
> > Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 12:04 AM
> > To: samba@lists.samba.org
> > Subject: [Samba] odd: everything SHOULD work... winbind
> > 
> > 
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > i had everything samba working PERFECT a few days ago, 
> > meantime something
> > has changed or something i've changed, i know not what, is 
> > causing me to
> > not be able to authenticate domain users... it just plain 
> > doesn't work.  i
> > haven't changed anything in /etc/pam.d/, but i checked on it and
> > everything there is still ok.... wbinfo -u lists all the 
> > users just swell.
> >  One wierd thing i noticed (beside the problem), if i do "ps 
> > -aux | grep
> > winbind" winbind doesn't show, but if i just "ps
-aux" it IS in THAT
> > list... 
> > 
> > i was messing around with red hats print manager utility 
> > (which somehow is
> > supposed to use samba's smbclient, didn't work btw)... i 
> don't know if
> > that broke something?  any ideas?
> > 
> > thanks
> > 
> > ________________________________________
> > David M. Leuser, II
> > Assistant Network Administrator
> > New Hampton School
> > (603) 744-3182 x121
> > dleuser@newhampton.org
> > ________________________________________
> > "Picture the root account as a magic hat that gives you 
> lots of power,
> > with which you can, by waving your hands, create or destroy 
> > entire cities.
> > Because it is easy to wave your hands in a destructive 
> > manner, it is not a
> > good idea to wear the magic hat when it is not needed, despite the
> > wonderful feeling. " -- Gnome User's Guide
> > 
> > -- 
> > To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the
> > instructions:  http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________________
> David M. Leuser, II
> Assistant Network Administrator
> New Hampton School
> (603) 744-3182 x121
> dleuser@newhampton.org
> ________________________________________
> "Picture the root account as a magic hat that gives you lots of power,
> with which you can, by waving your hands, create or destroy 
> entire cities.
> Because it is easy to wave your hands in a destructive 
> manner, it is not a
> good idea to wear the magic hat when it is not needed, despite the
> wonderful feeling. " -- Gnome User's Guide
> 
>

Hi Nir, 

I think the password changing is initiated by the client. Perhaps these
two articles from MS knowledge base are of interest:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q154501
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q154501

I hope this helps,

Wolfi


On Wed, Sep 25, 2002 at 05:44:34PM +0200, Nir Soffer
wrote:
> 
> No big surprise there. :)
> 
> I'm still trying to figure exactly what goes on with the machine
> password changing around. Who initiates this? nmbd? The PDC? Who's
> notified of this change, and what's going on there.
> 
> Perhaps someone can shed some light?
> 
> 
> --
> Nir Soffer -=- Software Engineer, Exanet Inc. -=-
> "Father, why are all the children weeping? / They are merely crying
son
>  O, are they merely crying, father? / Yes, true weeping is yet to
come"
>         -- Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds, The Weeping Song
>  
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David Leuser II [mailto:dleuser@newhampton.org]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 4:28 PM
> > To: Nir Soffer
> > Cc: samba@lists.samba.org
> > Subject: Re: RE: [Samba] odd: everything SHOULD work... winbind
> > 
> > 
> > Restarting winbind didn't change things at all... I honestly 
> > have no idea
> > what caused it, but I rejoined my server to the domain with 
> > smbpasswd, and
> > the problems dissappeared.  Go figure.
> > 
> > nirs@exanet.com writes:
> > 
> > I've seen a similar problem to that when running winbind... Try
> > restarting winbind? I'm starting to have a feeling that if the
machine
> > password is reset by nmbd, winbindd never finds out.
> > 
> > Anyone have any comments to that regard? I'm trying to reproduce
the
> > problem in a controlled environment right now, but have yet to see it
> > again.
> > 
> > Nir.
> > 
> > 
> > --
> > Nir Soffer -=- Software Engineer, Exanet Inc. -=-
> > "Father, why are all the children weeping? / They are merely 
> > crying son
> >  O, are they merely crying, father? / Yes, true weeping is 
> > yet to come"
> >         -- Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds, The Weeping Song
> >  
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: David Leuser II [mailto:dleuser@newhampton.org]
> > > Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 12:04 AM
> > > To: samba@lists.samba.org
> > > Subject: [Samba] odd: everything SHOULD work... winbind
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Hi all,
> > > 
> > > i had everything samba working PERFECT a few days ago, 
> > > meantime something
> > > has changed or something i've changed, i know not what, is 
> > > causing me to
> > > not be able to authenticate domain users... it just plain 
> > > doesn't work.  i
> > > haven't changed anything in /etc/pam.d/, but i checked on it
and
> > > everything there is still ok.... wbinfo -u lists all the 
> > > users just swell.
> > >  One wierd thing i noticed (beside the problem), if i do "ps
> > > -aux | grep
> > > winbind" winbind doesn't show, but if i just "ps
-aux" it IS in THAT
> > > list... 
> > > 
> > > i was messing around with red hats print manager utility 
> > > (which somehow is
> > > supposed to use samba's smbclient, didn't work btw)... i 
> > don't know if
> > > that broke something?  any ideas?
> > > 
> > > thanks
> > > 
> > > ________________________________________
> > > David M. Leuser, II
> > > Assistant Network Administrator
> > > New Hampton School
> > > (603) 744-3182 x121
> > > dleuser@newhampton.org
> > > ________________________________________
> > > "Picture the root account as a magic hat that gives you 
> > lots of power,
> > > with which you can, by waving your hands, create or destroy 
> > > entire cities.
> > > Because it is easy to wave your hands in a destructive 
> > > manner, it is not a
> > > good idea to wear the magic hat when it is not needed, despite
the
> > > wonderful feeling. " -- Gnome User's Guide
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read
the
> > > instructions:  http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ________________________________________
> > David M. Leuser, II
> > Assistant Network Administrator
> > New Hampton School
> > (603) 744-3182 x121
> > dleuser@newhampton.org
> > ________________________________________
> > "Picture the root account as a magic hat that gives you lots of
power,
> > with which you can, by waving your hands, create or destroy 
> > entire cities.
> > Because it is easy to wave your hands in a destructive 
> > manner, it is not a
> > good idea to wear the magic hat when it is not needed, despite the
> > wonderful feeling. " -- Gnome User's Guide
> > 
> > 
> --
> To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the
> instructions:  http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
--

Oops, I actually meant

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q154501
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q175468

Sorry for that,

Wolfi
> 
> Hi Nir, 
> 
> I think the password changing is initiated by the client. Perhaps these
> two articles from MS knowledge base are of interest:
> 
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q154501
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q154501
> 
> I hope this helps,
> 
> Wolfi
>