http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/08/04/2212251&tid=158&tid=95&tid=103 Probably some of you already saw this. Now, beyond discussions regarding the legitimacy of such a ruling (whether they have the legal, moral or whatever right to enforce it), there's the technical aspect. Suppose i provide VoIP services using Asterisk, and i fall under the incidence of the FCC ruling and i have to provide a tap to the guys in the black helicopters. What are the guidelines, what should i do to ensure i won't get spanked because i obstructed the justice or some such. More precisely, what config bits must be put in place to make sure there's always an easy way, with Asterisk, to tap into arbitrary calls? -- Florin Andrei http://florin.myip.org/
----- Original Message ----- From: "Florin Andrei" <florin@andrei.myip.org> To: <asterisk-users@lists.digium.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 4:02 PM Subject: [Asterisk-Users] FCC Rules VoIP Must Be Tappable>http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/08/04/2212251&tid=158&tid=95&tid=1 03> > Probably some of you already saw this. > Now, beyond discussions regarding the legitimacy of such a ruling > (whether they have the legal, moral or whatever right to enforce it), > there's the technical aspect. > > Suppose i provide VoIP services using Asterisk, and i fall under the > incidence of the FCC ruling and i have to provide a tap to the guys in > the black helicopters. > What are the guidelines, what should i do to ensure i won't get spanked > because i obstructed the justice or some such. > More precisely, what config bits must be put in place to make sure > there's always an easy way, with Asterisk, to tap into arbitrary calls? > > -- > Florin Andrei > > http://florin.myip.org/ >I suppose I should actually READ the ruling before I say anything... Soooo many sarcastic remarks just popping into my head.... ahhhh the US... we think we have the right to control the universe... Now I'm waiting for the black helecopters to come get me for my negative post... God Help America... -Chris
Yikes... I don't think it should be too problematic with PSTN termination, but if you're making VOIP-to-VOIP calls, you will only act as a SIP Proxy (or somesuch) and won't even be part of the stream. Besides, those who would use VOIP for ill, would probably use direct ip-dialing anyway.> -----Original Message----- > From: Florin Andrei [mailto:florin@andrei.myip.org] > Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 6:02 PM > To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com > Subject: [Asterisk-Users] FCC Rules VoIP Must Be Tappable > > > http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/08/04/2212251&tid=15 > 8&tid=95&tid=103 > > Probably some of you already saw this. > Now, beyond discussions regarding the legitimacy of such a > ruling (whether they have the legal, moral or whatever right > to enforce it), there's the technical aspect. > > Suppose i provide VoIP services using Asterisk, and i fall > under the incidence of the FCC ruling and i have to provide a > tap to the guys in the black helicopters. What are the > guidelines, what should i do to ensure i won't get spanked > because i obstructed the justice or some such. More > precisely, what config bits must be put in place to make sure > there's always an easy way, with Asterisk, to tap into > arbitrary calls? > > -- > Florin Andrei
In trading, we have VOIP sniffers that record ALL calls... Nice systems makes one I believe. -c -----Original Message----- From: asterisk-users-admin@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-admin@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Florin Andrei Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 7:02 PM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: [Asterisk-Users] FCC Rules VoIP Must Be Tappable http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/08/04/2212251&tid=158&tid=95&tid=1 03 Probably some of you already saw this. Now, beyond discussions regarding the legitimacy of such a ruling (whether they have the legal, moral or whatever right to enforce it), there's the technical aspect. Suppose i provide VoIP services using Asterisk, and i fall under the incidence of the FCC ruling and i have to provide a tap to the guys in the black helicopters. What are the guidelines, what should i do to ensure i won't get spanked because i obstructed the justice or some such. More precisely, what config bits must be put in place to make sure there's always an easy way, with Asterisk, to tap into arbitrary calls? -- Florin Andrei http://florin.myip.org/ _______________________________________________ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Does the FCC honestly expect that criminals are going to stop using encrypted point-to-point VOIP connections just so that they won't be breaking the law? Yeah, right. I'm sure they'll all erase their encrypted IM clients so that the FCC will be happy.> -----Original Message----- > From: asterisk-users-admin@lists.digium.com > [mailto:asterisk-users-admin@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of > Wolfgang S. Rupprecht > Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 9:58 PM > To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com > Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] FCC Rules VoIP Must Be Tappable > > > > Me raises his hand. > > > All in favor of IAX with native encrypted tunneling say > Aye :-) Now > > > I'm likely in the target rings of Big Brother :-) > > If the voice data passed through a service provider run > asterisk system, I'd imagine they'd just get a court order to > force IAX encryption to be turned off. (Or try to pull some > strings if the service provider was in a foreign country.) > > The question I have of this ruling is does this make > end-to-End RTP encryption illegal? Ditto for re-invites that > cut out all the middlemen? How are they planning in getting > the two endpoints to stop encrypting things without tipping > off the same two endpoints? What about VPN tunnels? Are > they illegal now by the same logic? > > -wolfgang > -- > Wolfgang S. Rupprecht http://www.wsrcc.com/wolfgang/ > openbsd amd64 > http://www.wsrcc.com/wolfgang/ftp/asterisk-openbsd35.patch > _______________________________________________ > Asterisk-Users mailing list > Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > >