This just popped up:> In terms of how native ZFS for Linux is being handled by [KQ > Infotec], they are releasing their ported ZFS code under the Common > Development & Distribution License and will not be attempting to go > for mainline integration. Instead, this company will just be > releasing their CDDL source-code as a build-able kernel module for > users and ensuring it does not use any GPL-only symbols where there > would be license conflicts.http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=zfs_linux_coming Via: http://linux.slashdot.org/story/10/08/27/2259253/ ETA is September 15, 2010. The revolution continues I guess. :)
Hi, Thanks for posting information about this port here. Just to add few points: * Currently we are planning to do a closed beta for this port, which is based on b121, we will be doing a proper release around end of this year, which will be based on latest build b141. If you are interested in being part of beta, then please contact darshin at kqinfotech.com. * Source code will be made available with release. Our binary releases will be for people who would like to directly use. With source release you can build it for any distro as long as your kernel version is not deviated too far. * Regarding licensing, there are some modules which contain the core ZFS code are CDDL, there are some modules which are GPL. * This work is done on top of work that Brian has done at LLNL and released at http://github.com/behlendorf/zfs/wiki. Our work is still based on his release zfs-0.4.9. But we will be moving to zfs-0.5.0 before public release. That will take us to b141. * We will be providing paid support for our binary releases. We are expecting that ZFS on Linux becomes a viable choice for those who would like to use it in production environment. At the same time, it will be open source, so that it can evolve as community. We understand that it is going to be long journey. This is our first step in that direction. Regards, Anurag. On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 6:37 AM, David Magda <dmagda at ee.ryerson.ca> wrote:> This just popped up: > > In terms of how native ZFS for Linux is being handled by [KQ Infotec], >> they are releasing their ported ZFS code under the Common Development & >> Distribution License and will not be attempting to go for mainline >> integration. Instead, this company will just be releasing their CDDL >> source-code as a build-able kernel module for users and ensuring it does not >> use any GPL-only symbols where there would be license conflicts. >> > > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=zfs_linux_coming > > Via: > > http://linux.slashdot.org/story/10/08/27/2259253/ > > ETA is September 15, 2010. > > The revolution continues I guess. :) > > _______________________________________________ > zfs-discuss mailing list > zfs-discuss at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss >-- Anurag Agarwal CEO, Founder KQ Infotech, Pune www.kqinfotech.com 9881254401 Coordinator Akshar Bharati www.aksharbharati.org Spreading joy through reading -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/attachments/20100828/1e0c9c4d/attachment.html>
>>>>> "aa" == Anurag Agarwal <anurag at kqinfotech.com> writes:aa> * Currently we are planning to do a closed beta aa> * Source code will be made available with release. CDDL violation. aa> * We will be providing paid support for our binary aa> releases. great, so long as your ``binary releases'''' always include source that matches the release exactly. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 304 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/attachments/20100828/21a9a59a/attachment.bin>
On 8/28/2010 8:55 PM, Miles Nordin wrote:>>>>>> "aa" == Anurag Agarwal<anurag at kqinfotech.com> writes: > aa> * Currently we are planning to do a closed beta > > aa> * Source code will be made available with release. > > CDDL violation.I think he meant that rather than an "open beta" where they''d make it available to everyone to test, they''re doing a "limited" beta where only specific people are going to be testing the code. Those folks can get the source if they''d like, but I suspect it''s simpler to get good test case data with a limited number of folks before doing a wide release. -- Erik Trimble Java System Support Mailstop: usca22-123 Phone: x17195 Santa Clara, CA Timezone: US/Pacific (GMT-0800)
Hi Erik, Thanks for clarifying it. You are absolutely right. It is a limited beta. Every one being part of beta program will have access to source code. We want to have it first validated by a limited number of people, before opening it to everyone. Let us know if any one would like to participate in the beta program. Regards, Anurag. On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Erik Trimble <erik.trimble at oracle.com>wrote:> On 8/28/2010 8:55 PM, Miles Nordin wrote: > >> "aa" == Anurag Agarwal<anurag at kqinfotech.com> writes: >>>>>>> >>>>>> aa> * Currently we are planning to do a closed beta >> >> aa> * Source code will be made available with release. >> >> CDDL violation. >> > > I think he meant that rather than an "open beta" where they''d make it > available to everyone to test, they''re doing a "limited" beta where only > specific people are going to be testing the code. Those folks can get the > source if they''d like, but I suspect it''s simpler to get good test case data > with a limited number of folks before doing a wide release. > > > > > -- > Erik Trimble > Java System Support > Mailstop: usca22-123 > Phone: x17195 > Santa Clara, CA > Timezone: US/Pacific (GMT-0800) > > > _______________________________________________ > zfs-discuss mailing list > zfs-discuss at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss >-- Anurag Agarwal CEO, Founder KQ Infotech, Pune www.kqinfotech.com 9881254401 Coordinator Akshar Bharati www.aksharbharati.org Spreading joy through reading -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/attachments/20100829/0fdb1a42/attachment.html>
>>>>> "aa" == Anurag Agarwal <anurag at kqinfotech.com> writes:aa> Every one being part of beta program will have access to aa> source code ...and the right to redistribute it if they like, which I think is also guaranteed by the license. Yes, I agree a somewhat formal beta program could be smart for this type of software, which can lose large amounts of data, and where reproducing problems isn''t easy because debugging the way analagous to other software requires shipping around multi-terabyte possibly-confidential images, so you''d like competent testers so you can skip this without becoming too frustrated. But I don''t see how anything fitting the definition of ``closed'''' is possible with free software. Even just asking participants, ``please don''t leak our software outside the beta, even though you''ve the legal right to do so. If you do leak it, we''ll be unhappy,'''' is an implicit threat to retaliate (ex. by excluding people from further beta releases, which you''ll likely be making in a continuous stream). so the word ``closed'''' alone, even without any further discussion, is likely to have a chilling effect on the software freedom of the beta participants, and I think this effect is absolutely intended by you, and that it''s wrong. on one hand it''s sort of a fine point, but on the other for the facts on the ground it can matter quite a lot. Thanks for the effort! and for clarifying that you will always release matching source along with every binary release you make! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 304 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/attachments/20100829/8f791973/attachment.bin>