zfs discuss - Feb 2009 - Confused about prerequisites for ZFS to work

I''m hoping to get some general clues about what all is required to get
an experiment going with zfs.

I''ve managed to install osol-11 in a vmware on windowsXP host from a
recent *.iso.

I''m following along with Simon''s blog showing how to set up
ZFS.  I''m
newbie with both ZFS and Solaris but the instructions seem pretty
clear.

However I''m finding some things the Simon directions at:
   http://breden.org.uk/2008/03/08/home-fileserver-zfs-setup/

Do, are failing for me.


I''ve added a few extra drives in he vmware and added them to
zpool... So cutting to the chase I have a zpool established and up to
the point where I make it available to other hosts.

Eventually I hope to have a 3 windows machines, 2 linux and 1 solaris
machine using the Zfs drives for backup.  For now I''m just including 1
linux and 1 windows in my experiment.

Going by simons instructions I''m settting up a sbm/cifs share.
I see the smbshare is already setup:

  # zfs get all tank/home/reader |grep smb 
    tank/home/reader  sharesmb    on      local

Then I''m told to check and see what name the share is given:

 # sharemgr show -vp
  default nfs=()
   zfs
    zfs/tank/home/reader smb=()
          tank_home_reader=/tank/home/reader

Ok, then I''m having a problem getting the smb/server running.

Here is where I need some kind of brief outline telling what all is
needed to get that to happen.

When I look at the server, Its said to be in `maintenance mode''

 # svcs | grep smb
  online         18:40:45 svc:/network/smb/client:default
  maintenance    23:55:48 svc:/network/smb/server:default

I''m not really sure how to use svcadm wisely but I tried to enable it
first:

   svcadm enable -r  smb/server
  svcadm: svc:/milestone/network depends on \
  svc:/network/physical, which has multiple instances 

I''m not sure what that output means... but it doesn''t appear
to be any
kind of error.

Still when I look again... its still in maintenance mode.


I noticed a special kernel package right next to the smb server
called. SUNWsmbskr  (smb/server kernel).

So does this require a special kernel?

A brief roadmap from the point I''m at to running ZFS server, somekind
of outline would be really be handy.

When looking at the demos etc on line about zfs.. I don''t recall
seeing anything about a special kernel... or is the smb server not
required to allow windows machines to `see'' the zfs pool?

Also.. I keep seeing mention of a CIFS implementation but all the
stuff I see about cifs in the package manager says `client''.  So
I''m
getting a bit confused.

Harry Putnam wrote:
> Here is where I need some kind of brief outline telling what all is
> needed to get that to happen.
>
> When I look at the server, Its said to be in `maintenance mode''
>
>  # svcs | grep smb
>   online         18:40:45 svc:/network/smb/client:default
>   maintenance    23:55:48 svc:/network/smb/server:default
>
> I''m not really sure how to use svcadm wisely but I tried to enable
it
> first:
>
>    svcadm enable -r  smb/server
>   svcadm: svc:/milestone/network depends on \
>   svc:/network/physical, which has multiple instances 
>
> I''m not sure what that output means... but it doesn''t
appear to be any
> kind of error.
>
> Still when I look again... its still in maintenance mode.
What does "tail /var/svc/log/network-smb-server:default.log" show?

The log file for a service listed as part of the long listing (svcs -l 
smb/server).

-- 
Ian.

Ian Collins wrote:
> Harry Putnam wrote:
[...]
>> Still when I look again... its still in maintenance mode.
> What does "tail /var/svc/log/network-smb-server:default.log"
show?
> 
> The log file for a service listed as part of the long listing (svcs -l 
> smb/server).
> 
Following these two commands:
svcadm disable sbm/server
svcadm enable -r smb/server

[...]

[ Feb 18 11:53:42 Executing start method ("/usr/lib/smbsrv/smbd
start"). ]
smbd: NetBIOS services started
smbd: kernel bind error: No such file or directory
smbd: daemon initialization failed
[ Feb 18 11:53:43 Method "start" exited with status 95. ]

I wondered about the kernel in previous post:

 > I noticed a
 > special kernel package right next to the smb server called. SUNWsmbskr
 > (smb/server kernel).

 > So does this require a special kernel?

Does that mean I need to do something to the kernel..?  Replace it with
SUNWsmbskr?

Or is it something less ambitious?

You definitely need SUNWsmbskr - the cifs server provided with
OpenSolaris is tied to the kernel at some low level.

I found this entry helpful:

<http://blogs.sun.com/timthomas/entry/solaris_cifs_in_workgroup_mode>



On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Harry Putnam <reader at newsguy.com>
wrote:
> Ian Collins wrote:
>>
>> Harry Putnam wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>>> Still when I look again... its still in maintenance mode.
>
>> What does "tail /var/svc/log/network-smb-server:default.log"
show?
>>
>> The log file for a service listed as part of the long listing (svcs -l
>> smb/server).
>>
>
> Following these two commands:
> svcadm disable sbm/server
> svcadm enable -r smb/server
>
> [...]
>
> [ Feb 18 11:53:42 Executing start method ("/usr/lib/smbsrv/smbd
start"). ]
> smbd: NetBIOS services started
> smbd: kernel bind error: No such file or directory
> smbd: daemon initialization failed
> [ Feb 18 11:53:43 Method "start" exited with status 95. ]
>
> I wondered about the kernel in previous post:
>
>> I noticed a
>> special kernel package right next to the smb server called. SUNWsmbskr
>> (smb/server kernel).
>
>> So does this require a special kernel?
>
> Does that mean I need to do something to the kernel..?  Replace it with
> SUNWsmbskr?
>
> Or is it something less ambitious?
>
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Blake wrote:
> You definitely need SUNWsmbskr - the cifs server provided with
> OpenSolaris is tied to the kernel at some low level.
> 
> I found this entry helpful:
> 
> <http://blogs.sun.com/timthomas/entry/solaris_cifs_in_workgroup_mode>
Looks like it will be immensely so..
However it appears from the comments there that I need to have the smb 
server online before the directions there are very usefull.

I''ve installed both SUNWsmbs and SUNWsmbskr  and rebooted as directed.
pkg shows them installed.
    pkg list|grep smbs
   SUNWsmbs          0.5.11-0.101    installed
   SUNWsmbskr        0.5.11-0.101    installed

However I still get the same error when trying to start smb server.
   [ Feb 18 14:36:36 Enabled. ]
   [ Feb 18 14:36:36 Executing start method ("/usr/lib/smbsrv/smbd
   start"). ]
   smbd: NetBIOS services started
   smbd: kernel bind error: No such file or directory
   smbd: daemon initialization failed
   [ Feb 18 14:36:37 Method "start" exited with status 95. ]

I''m not finding many clues with google as to what to do, but as always 
its not doubt that my search strings are lacking, since I don''t have 
enough experience yet to know what to look for exactly.  Something like 
this:
     how to "install SUNWsmbskr"
Turns up man messges about the need to reboot after installing but not 
any I see about how to deal with any problems with the install itself.

have you made sure that samba is *disabled*?

svcs samba

?

On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Harry Putnam <reader at newsguy.com>
wrote:
> Blake wrote:
>>
>> You definitely need SUNWsmbskr - the cifs server provided with
>> OpenSolaris is tied to the kernel at some low level.
>>
>> I found this entry helpful:
>>
>>
<http://blogs.sun.com/timthomas/entry/solaris_cifs_in_workgroup_mode>
>
> Looks like it will be immensely so..
> However it appears from the comments there that I need to have the smb
> server online before the directions there are very usefull.
>
> I''ve installed both SUNWsmbs and SUNWsmbskr  and rebooted as
directed.
> pkg shows them installed.
>   pkg list|grep smbs
>  SUNWsmbs          0.5.11-0.101    installed
>  SUNWsmbskr        0.5.11-0.101    installed
>
> However I still get the same error when trying to start smb server.
>  [ Feb 18 14:36:36 Enabled. ]
>  [ Feb 18 14:36:36 Executing start method ("/usr/lib/smbsrv/smbd
>  start"). ]
>  smbd: NetBIOS services started
>  smbd: kernel bind error: No such file or directory
>  smbd: daemon initialization failed
>  [ Feb 18 14:36:37 Method "start" exited with status 95. ]
>
> I''m not finding many clues with google as to what to do, but as
always its
> not doubt that my search strings are lacking, since I don''t have
enough
> experience yet to know what to look for exactly.  Something like this:
>    how to "install SUNWsmbskr"
> Turns up man messges about the need to reboot after installing but not any
I
> see about how to deal with any problems with the install itself.
>
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Blake <blake.irvin at gmail.com> writes:
> have you made sure that samba is *disabled*?
>
> svcs samba
>
> ?
>
First..good news ... its working.

About samba:
Yeah, that was one of the things I did find while googling.  But
apparently that package is not installed by default.. it was not
installed here at any rate:

root # pkg list |grep smb
SUNWlibsmbclient  3.0.28-0.101     installed
SUNWsmbfs         0.5.11-0.101     installed
SUNWsmbfskr       0.5.11-0.101     installed
SUNWsmbs          0.5.11-0.101     installed
SUNWsmbskr        0.5.11-0.101     installed

And of course svcs shows no evidence of it.

It appears now that smb/server is working... I''ve had occasion to
reboot at least twice more since the reboot that followed installation
of smbs and smbskr... but only now has the `maintenance'' mode turned
into `online''

  svcs |grep smb
  online         20:19:12 svc:/network/smb/server:default
  online         20:19:34 svc:/network/smb/client:default

A beautiful sight.. hehe.. I''ve been thrashing around for 2 days on
this.  It would be nice to know just what really happened there.  I''m
guessing its pretty likely to be some ill-informed oversight of mine.

Thanks for your time... now I can continue the setup.

Blake <blake.irvin at gmail.com> writes:


[...]
> I found this entry helpful:
>
> <http://blogs.sun.com/timthomas/entry/solaris_cifs_in_workgroup_mode>
There is a comment in those directions about installing a SMB PAM
module:
  6. Install the SMB PAM module

  Add the below line to the end of /etc/pam.conf:

  other   password required       pam_smb_passwd.so.1     nowarn

Do you know what that is?

I don''t find any pkg named like that here.

   pkg search -r pam|grep smb
   <nada>

On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 07:14:07 -0600
Harry Putnam <reader at newsguy.com> wrote:
> Blake <blake.irvin at gmail.com> writes:
> 
> 
> [...]
> 
> > I found this entry helpful:
> >
> >
<http://blogs.sun.com/timthomas/entry/solaris_cifs_in_workgroup_mode>
> 
> There is a comment in those directions about installing a SMB PAM
> module:
>   6. Install the SMB PAM module
> 
>   Add the below line to the end of /etc/pam.conf:
> 
>   other   password required       pam_smb_passwd.so.1     nowarn
> 
> Do you know what that is?
> 
> I don''t find any pkg named like that here.
> 
>    pkg search -r pam|grep smb
>    <nada>

You might find it if you searched instead with

$ pkg search -r smb


In SXCE, at least, /usr/lib/security/pam_smb_passwd.so is
part of the SUNWsmbfsu package.


James
--
Senior Kernel Software Engineer, Solaris
Sun Microsystems
http://blogs.sun.com/jmcp	http://www.jmcp.homeunix.com/blog

On 02/19/09 13:14, Harry Putnam wrote:
> Blake <blake.irvin at gmail.com> writes:
> 
> 
> [...]
> 
>> I found this entry helpful:
>>
>>
<http://blogs.sun.com/timthomas/entry/solaris_cifs_in_workgroup_mode>
> 
> There is a comment in those directions about installing a SMB PAM
> module:
>   6. Install the SMB PAM module
> 
>   Add the below line to the end of /etc/pam.conf:
> 
>   other   password required       pam_smb_passwd.so.1     nowarn
> 
> Do you know what that is?
> 
> I don''t find any pkg named like that here.
> 
>    pkg search -r pam|grep smb
>    <nada>
try pkg search -r pam_smb_passwd.so.1

which gives SUNWsmbs package

Enda
> 
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Patch System Test : Ireland : x19781/353-1-8199718

On 02/19/09 13:20, James C. McPherson wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 07:14:07 -0600
> Harry Putnam <reader at newsguy.com> wrote:
> 
>> Blake <blake.irvin at gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>> I found this entry helpful:
>>>
>>>
<http://blogs.sun.com/timthomas/entry/solaris_cifs_in_workgroup_mode>
>> There is a comment in those directions about installing a SMB PAM
>> module:
>>   6. Install the SMB PAM module
>>
>>   Add the below line to the end of /etc/pam.conf:
>>
>>   other   password required       pam_smb_passwd.so.1     nowarn
>>
>> Do you know what that is?
>>
>> I don''t find any pkg named like that here.
>>
>>    pkg search -r pam|grep smb
>>    <nada>
> 
> 
> You might find it if you searched instead with
> 
> $ pkg search -r smb
> 
> 
> In SXCE, at least, /usr/lib/security/pam_smb_passwd.so is
> part of the SUNWsmbfsu package.
> 
Hi
And looks like 2008.11 has it in SUNWsmbs.

Enda
> 
> James
> --
> Senior Kernel Software Engineer, Solaris
> Sun Microsystems
> http://blogs.sun.com/jmcp	http://www.jmcp.homeunix.com/blog
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-- 
Enda O''Connor x19781  Software Product Engineering
Patch System Test : Ireland : x19781/353-1-8199718

Harry Putnam wrote:
> There is a comment in those directions about installing a SMB PAM
> module:
>   6. Install the SMB PAM module
> 
>   Add the below line to the end of /etc/pam.conf:
> 
>   other   password required       pam_smb_passwd.so.1     nowarn
> 
> Do you know what that is?
It''s part of the Solaris CIFS server, and its purpose is to
permit you to store passwords in a form useful to CIFS.
The regular passwords are stored with one-way encryption,
and CIFS needs the plain text to encrypt a different way
for interoperability.  The PAM module sees the password as
it is changed, and will store it for CIFS purposes.

Rob T