Hello, i´ve got a new Intel Nehalem server with an i7-920 CPU. I installed a Debian Lenny OS ... Now, i cannot find any images for hypervisor or kernel that seem to be runable on that hardware. :-O All of that is AMD: apt-cache search hypervisor linux-image-2.6-xen-amd64 - Linux 2.6 image on AMD64, oldstyle Xen support linux-image-xen-amd64 - Linux image on AMD64, oldstyle Xen support xen-hypervisor-3.2-1-amd64 - The Xen Hypervisor on AMD64 linux-image-2.6.26-1-xen-amd64 - Linux 2.6.26 image on AMD64, oldstyle Xen support linux-image-2.6.26-2-xen-amd64 - Linux 2.6.26 image on AMD64, oldstyle Xen support xen-linux-system-2.6.26-1-xen-amd64 - XEN system with Linux 2.6.26 image on AMD64 xen-linux-system-2.6.26-2-xen-amd64 - XEN system with Linux 2.6.26 image on AMD64 So, my question is, are there difficulties to run Xen on my hardware? Is there a way to get pre-compliled hypervisor and kernel of my OS? Should i better change the OS? Any other experiences with the hardware and Xen? Thank you for any information that gets me to finally run Xen on the server :) WEB.DE DSL: Internet, Telefon und Entertainment für nur 19,99 EUR/mtl.! http://produkte.web.de/go/02/ _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Hello, Am Freitag, den 26.03.2010, 16:31 +0100 schrieb forwebonly@web.de:> Hello, > > i´ve got a new Intel Nehalem server with an i7-920 CPU. > > I installed a Debian Lenny OS ... > > > > Now, i cannot find any images for hypervisor or kernel that seem to be > runable on that hardware. > > :-O > > > > All of that is AMD: > > > > apt-cache search hypervisor > linux-image-2.6-xen-amd64 - Linux 2.6 image on AMD64, oldstyle Xen > support > linux-image-xen-amd64 - Linux image on AMD64, oldstyle Xen support > xen-hypervisor-3.2-1-amd64 - The Xen Hypervisor on AMD64 > linux-image-2.6.26-1-xen-amd64 - Linux 2.6.26 image on AMD64, oldstyle > Xen support > linux-image-2.6.26-2-xen-amd64 - Linux 2.6.26 image on AMD64, oldstyle > Xen support > xen-linux-system-2.6.26-1-xen-amd64 - XEN system with Linux 2.6.26 > image on AMD64 > xen-linux-system-2.6.26-2-xen-amd64 - XEN system with Linux 2.6.26 > image on AMD64 > > > > So, my question is, are there difficulties to run Xen on my hardware? > > Is there a way to get pre-compliled hypervisor and kernel of my OS?in the debian-universum amd64 is a synonym for X86_64. so the amd64-Version is that you''re searching for...> Should i better change the OS? > > > > Any other experiences with the hardware and Xen? > > > > Thank you for any information that gets me to finally run Xen on the > server :)# apt-get install xen-linux-system-2.6.26-2-xen-amd64 xen-tools bridge-utils should do the job :-) cu, thomas> > > WEB.DE DSL: Internet, Telefon und Entertainment für nur 19,99 > EUR/mtl.! > http://produkte.web.de/go/02/ > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Could you try to build Xen 4.0-rc8 & Pvops kernel by hands on Debian Lenny
( Squeeze would be better)
View just as sample , referencing pvops kernel checkout as well :-
http://www.fsdaily.com/HighEnd/Set_up_Xen_3_4_3_Dom0_via_xenified_2_6_31_12_kernel_on_top_Ubuntu_9_10_Server
Boris.
--- On Fri, 3/26/10, forwebonly@web.de <forwebonly@web.de> wrote:
From: forwebonly@web.de <forwebonly@web.de>
Subject: [Xen-users] Xen on Intel i7 Nehalem?
To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com
Date: Friday, March 26, 2010, 11:31 AM
Hello,
i´ve got a new Intel Nehalem server with an i7-920 CPU.
I installed a Debian Lenny OS ...
Now, i cannot find any images for hypervisor or kernel that seem to be runable
on that hardware.
:-O
All of that is AMD:
apt-cache search hypervisor
linux-image-2.6-xen-amd64 - Linux 2.6 image on AMD64, oldstyle Xen support
linux-image-xen-amd64 - Linux image on AMD64, oldstyle Xen support
xen-hypervisor-3.2-1-amd64 - The Xen Hypervisor on AMD64
linux-image-2.6.26-1-xen-amd64 - Linux 2.6.26 image on AMD64, oldstyle Xen
support
linux-image-2.6.26-2-xen-amd64 - Linux 2.6.26 image on AMD64, oldstyle Xen
support
xen-linux-system-2.6.26-1-xen-amd64 - XEN system with Linux 2.6.26 image on
AMD64
xen-linux-system-2.6.26-2-xen-amd64 - XEN system with Linux 2.6.26 image on
AMD64
So, my question is, are there difficulties to run Xen on my hardware?
Is there a way to get pre-compliled hypervisor and kernel of my OS?
Should i better change the OS?
Any other experiences with the hardware and Xen?
Thank you for any information that gets me to finally run Xen on the server :)
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Thomas Halinka wrote:>in the debian-universum amd64 is a synonym for X86_64. > >so the amd64-Version is that you''re searching for...Oh.. Thanx a bunch :) A bit strange ...> # apt-get install xen-linux-system-2.6.26-2-xen-amd64 xen-tools >bridge-utils > >should do the job :-)Yesh - i am up an running :) Thank you! ___________________________________________________________ WEB.DE DSL: Internet, Telefon und Entertainment für nur 19,99 EUR/mtl.! http://produkte.web.de/go/02/ _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Boris Derzhavets wrote: > Could you try to build Xen 4.0-rc8 & Pvops kernel by hands on Debian Lenny ( Squeeze would be better) > View just as sample , referencing pvops kernel checkout as well :- > > http://www.fsdaily.com/HighEnd/Set_up_Xen_3_4_3_Dom0_via_xenified_2_6_31_12_kernel_on_top_Ubuntu_9_10_Server Thank you for the link! Could you give me your opinion on why using Xen 4x would give benefits compared to 3.2-1, which comes together with Debian Lenny? GRATIS für alle WEB.DE-Nutzer: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://movieflat.web.de _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
On 29/03/2010 15:37, forwebonly@web.de wrote:> Thomas Halinka wrote: > >> in the debian-universum amd64 is a synonym for X86_64. >> >> so the amd64-Version is that you''re searching for... >> > Oh.. > Thanx a bunch :) > A bit strange ... >In what is it "strange" ? It''s confusing, but a "normal" choice.>> # apt-get install xen-linux-system-2.6.26-2-xen-amd64 xen-tools >> bridge-utils >> >> should do the job :-) >> > Yesh - i am up an running :) > Thank you! >For modern hardware, if it doesn''t work, try with more recent (but still beta) packages by adding in your /etc/apt/preferences file : Package: linux-image-2.6.32-4-xen-amd64 Pin: release a=unstable Pin-Priority: 500 Package: linux-base Pin: release a=unstable Pin-Priority: 500 Package: xen-hypervisor-3.4-amd64 Pin: release a=unstable Pin-Priority: 500 Package: xen-utils-3.4 Pin: release a=unstable Pin-Priority: 500 Package: xen-utils-common Pin: release a=unstable Pin-Priority: 500 Package: libxenstore3.0 Pin: release a=unstable Pin-Priority: 500 You will have the last Xen 3.4, and a 2.6.32 pvops dom0 kernel. Olivier _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Hi Olivier, Am Montag, den 29.03.2010, 15:46 +0200 schrieb Olivier B.:> On 29/03/2010 15:37, forwebonly@web.de wrote: > > Thomas Halinka wrote: > > > >> in the debian-universum amd64 is a synonym for X86_64. > >> > >> so the amd64-Version is that you''re searching for... > >> > > Oh.. > > Thanx a bunch :) > > A bit strange ... > > > > In what is it "strange" ? It''s confusing, but a "normal" choice. > > > > >> # apt-get install xen-linux-system-2.6.26-2-xen-amd64 xen-tools > >> bridge-utils > >> > >> should do the job :-) > >> > > Yesh - i am up an running :) > > Thank you! > > > > For modern hardware, if it doesn''t work, try with more recent (but still > beta) packages by adding in your /etc/apt/preferences file : > > Package: linux-image-2.6.32-4-xen-amd64 > Pin: release a=unstable > Pin-Priority: 500 >......> > You will have the last Xen 3.4, and a 2.6.32 pvops dom0 kernel.But no HVM-Support...> > Oliviercu, thomas> > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
"Olivier B." wrote:>In what is it "strange" ? It''s confusing, but a "normal" choice.Now ... using "AMD" for an Intel CPU *is* strange, don´t you think? :)>For modern hardware, if it doesn''t work, try with more recent (but still >beta) packages by adding in your /etc/apt/preferences file :I do not seem to have hardware issues .... Are there other reasons to leave debian mainline and use a newer Xen? I mean, regarding important features or bigger performance issues or other reasons ... Thank you for your reply! ___________________________________________________________ GRATIS für alle WEB.DE-Nutzer: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://movieflat.web.de _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
You need at least clone of xen-3.4-testing.hg tree or coming soon Xen 3.4.3 official release to load 2.6.32.10 PVops kernel due to CS connected with Xiantao Zhang''s "APIC Rework" was back ported only to 3.4.3. There is no much people and support behind 2.6.31.8(12) xenified aka Suse kernel (Anrew Lyon, Jun Beulich). It''s time to get rid from xenified kernels. I would suggest to choose stable pvops kernel coming with Xen 4.0 release due to Citrix.inc is, actually, behind this line . No matter would Xen Dom0 support merge main line linux or no . JF''s PVops kernels seem to be the focus of development of Citrix core team and guys from Intel and Oracle in a foreseeable future. It works for me pretty stable on F12 and Ubuntu 9.10 Server. I also believe that referenced critical CS for APIC Rework properly, otherwise somebody will correct me. Boris. --- On Mon, 3/29/10, forwebonly@web.de <forwebonly@web.de> wrote: From: forwebonly@web.de <forwebonly@web.de> Subject: Re: [Xen-users] Xen on Intel i7 Nehalem? To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com, "Boris Derzhavets" <bderzhavets@yahoo.com> Date: Monday, March 29, 2010, 9:42 AM Boris Derzhavets wrote:> Could you try to build Xen 4.0-rc8 & Pvops kernel by hands on Debian Lenny ( Squeeze would be better) > View just as sample , referencing pvops kernel checkout as well :- > > http://www.fsdaily.com/HighEnd/Set_up_Xen_3_4_3_Dom0_via_xenified_2_6_31_12_kernel_on_top_Ubuntu_9_10_ServerThank you for the link! Could you give me your opinion on why using Xen 4x would give benefits compared to 3.2-1, which comes together with Debian Lenny? GRATIS für alle WEB.DE-Nutzer: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://movieflat.web.de -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
>> You will have the last Xen 3.4, and a 2.6.32 pvops dom0 kernel.> But no HVM-Support...I do have HVM support building from source on Ubuntu 9.10 Server. What''s the reason not to do it on Debian Squeeze ? Boris. --- On Mon, 3/29/10, Thomas Halinka <lists@thohal.de> wrote: From: Thomas Halinka <lists@thohal.de> Subject: Re: [Xen-users] Xen on Intel i7 Nehalem? To: "Olivier B." <xen.list@daevel.fr> Cc: xen-users@lists.xensource.com Date: Monday, March 29, 2010, 10:36 AM Hi Olivier, Am Montag, den 29.03.2010, 15:46 +0200 schrieb Olivier B.:> On 29/03/2010 15:37, forwebonly@web.de wrote: > > Thomas Halinka wrote: > > > >> in the debian-universum amd64 is a synonym for X86_64. > >> > >> so the amd64-Version is that you''re searching for... > >> > > Oh.. > > Thanx a bunch :) > > A bit strange ... > > > > In what is it "strange" ? It''s confusing, but a "normal" choice. > > > > >> # apt-get install xen-linux-system-2.6.26-2-xen-amd64 xen-tools > >> bridge-utils > >> > >> should do the job :-) > >> > > Yesh - i am up an running :) > > Thank you! > > > > For modern hardware, if it doesn''t work, try with more recent (but still > beta) packages by adding in your /etc/apt/preferences file : > > Package: linux-image-2.6.32-4-xen-amd64 > Pin: release a=unstable > Pin-Priority: 500 >......> > You will have the last Xen 3.4, and a 2.6.32 pvops dom0 kernel.But no HVM-Support...> > Oliviercu, thomas> > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Hi Boris, Nothing against building from source, but its un-maintainable, if you have a bunch of servers to manage.. think of updating and patching each of this boxes... And Olivier recommended the xen-pkgs from unstable without hvm-support, which i just wanted to mention... cu, thomas Am Montag, den 29.03.2010, 08:38 -0700 schrieb Boris Derzhavets:> >> You will have the last Xen 3.4, and a 2.6.32 pvops dom0 kernel. > > > But no HVM-Support... > > I do have HVM support building from source on Ubuntu 9.10 Server. > What''s the reason not to do it on Debian Squeeze ? > > > Boris. > > > --- On Mon, 3/29/10, Thomas Halinka <lists@thohal.de> wrote: > > From: Thomas Halinka <lists@thohal.de> > Subject: Re: [Xen-users] Xen on Intel i7 Nehalem? > To: "Olivier B." <xen.list@daevel.fr> > Cc: xen-users@lists.xensource.com > Date: Monday, March 29, 2010, 10:36 AM > > Hi Olivier, > > Am Montag, den 29.03.2010, 15:46 +0200 schrieb Olivier B.: > > On 29/03/2010 15:37, forwebonly@web.de wrote: > > > Thomas Halinka wrote: > > > > > >> in the debian-universum amd64 is a synonym for X86_64. > > >> > > >> so the amd64-Version is that you''re searching for... > > >> > > > Oh.. > > > Thanx a bunch :) > > > A bit strange ... > > > > > > > In what is it "strange" ? It''s confusing, but a "normal" > choice. > > > > > > > > >> # apt-get install xen-linux-system-2.6.26-2-xen-amd64 > xen-tools > > >> bridge-utils > > >> > > >> should do the job :-) > > >> > > > Yesh - i am up an running :) > > > Thank you! > > > > > > > For modern hardware, if it doesn''t work, try with more > recent (but still > > beta) packages by adding in your /etc/apt/preferences file : > > > > Package: linux-image-2.6.32-4-xen-amd64 > > Pin: release a=unstable > > Pin-Priority: 500 > > > ...... > > > > You will have the last Xen 3.4, and a 2.6.32 pvops dom0 > kernel. > > But no HVM-Support... > > > > > Olivier > > cu, > > thomas > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Xen-users mailing list > > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > >_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Instead of # cd /usr/src/xen-unstable/ # make world you run # make dist In case Xen 4.0 would been released pvops kernel is supposed to be built by default. Mount /usr/src/xen-unstable/dist as NFS share on original server to current server''s /mnt directory. # cd /mnt/dist make install Boris. P.S. I understand that Ubuntu/Debian packaging would be nice. But , there is no much chance Canonical would do that for Lucid Lynx Server. Too much excitement with KVM (???) --- On Mon, 3/29/10, Thomas Halinka <lists@thohal.de> wrote: From: Thomas Halinka <lists@thohal.de> Subject: Re: [Xen-users] Xen on Intel i7 Nehalem? To: "Boris Derzhavets" <bderzhavets@yahoo.com> Cc: "Olivier B." <xen.list@daevel.fr>, xen-users@lists.xensource.com Date: Monday, March 29, 2010, 11:56 AM Hi Boris, Nothing against building from source, but its un-maintainable, if you have a bunch of servers to manage.. think of updating and patching each of this boxes... And Olivier recommended the xen-pkgs from unstable without hvm-support, which i just wanted to mention... cu, thomas Am Montag, den 29.03.2010, 08:38 -0700 schrieb Boris Derzhavets:> >> You will have the last Xen 3.4, and a 2.6.32 pvops dom0 kernel. > > > But no HVM-Support... > > I do have HVM support building from source on Ubuntu 9.10 Server. > What''s the reason not to do it on Debian Squeeze ? > > > Boris. > > > --- On Mon, 3/29/10, Thomas Halinka <lists@thohal.de> wrote: > > From: Thomas Halinka <lists@thohal.de> > Subject: Re: [Xen-users] Xen on Intel i7 Nehalem? > To: "Olivier B." <xen.list@daevel.fr> > Cc: xen-users@lists.xensource.com > Date: Monday, March 29, 2010, 10:36 AM > > Hi Olivier, > > Am Montag, den 29.03.2010, 15:46 +0200 schrieb Olivier B.: > > On 29/03/2010 15:37, forwebonly@web.de wrote: > > > Thomas Halinka wrote: > > > > > >> in the debian-universum amd64 is a synonym for X86_64. > > >> > > >> so the amd64-Version is that you''re searching for... > > >> > > > Oh.. > > > Thanx a bunch :) > > > A bit strange ... > > > > > > > In what is it "strange" ? It''s confusing, but a "normal" > choice. > > > > > > > > >> # apt-get install xen-linux-system-2.6.26-2-xen-amd64 > xen-tools > > >> bridge-utils > > >> > > >> should do the job :-) > > >> > > > Yesh - i am up an running :) > > > Thank you! > > > > > > > For modern hardware, if it doesn''t work, try with more > recent (but still > > beta) packages by adding in your /etc/apt/preferences file : > > > > Package: linux-image-2.6.32-4-xen-amd64 > > Pin: release a=unstable > > Pin-Priority: 500 > > > ...... > > > > You will have the last Xen 3.4, and a 2.6.32 pvops dom0 > kernel. > > But no HVM-Support... > > > > > Olivier > > cu, > > thomas > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Xen-users mailing list > > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > >_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
On 29/03/2010 17:19, forwebonly@web.de wrote:> "Olivier B." wrote: > >> In what is it "strange" ? It''s confusing, but a "normal" choice. >> > Now ... using "AMD" for an Intel CPU *is* strange, don´t you think? > :) > >Well with an old AMD, you was using the "i(ntel)386" architecture, right ?>> For modern hardware, if it doesn''t work, try with more recent (but still >> beta) packages by adding in your /etc/apt/preferences file : >> > I do not seem to have hardware issues .... > > Are there other reasons to leave debian mainline and use a newer Xen? > I mean, regarding important features or bigger performance issues or other reasons ... > > Thank you for your reply! >I often upgrade Xen for 2 reasons : - hardware compatibility (with some xeons cpu) - lenny instability (with multi vcpus domu) Olivier _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
On Fri, 2010-03-26 at 09:04 -0700, Boris Derzhavets wrote:> Could you try to build Xen 4.0-rc8 & Pvops kernel by hands on Debian > Lenny ( Squeeze would be better) > View just as sample , referencing pvops kernel checkout as well :- > > http://www.fsdaily.com/HighEnd/Set_up_Xen_3_4_3_Dom0_via_xenified_2_6_31_12_kernel_on_top_Ubuntu_9_10_Server > > Boris.Hi Boris, Have you managed to build Xen 4.0 into Ubuntu? /Peter _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Yes. http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/133477/index.html There is no much differenece. Install required packages, clone hg tree@xensource you need and build. Boris. --- On Wed, 3/31/10, Peter Privat <peter.privat@breilind.com> wrote: From: Peter Privat <peter.privat@breilind.com> Subject: Re: [Xen-users] Xen on Intel i7 Nehalem? To: "Boris Derzhavets" <bderzhavets@yahoo.com> Cc: xen-users@lists.xensource.com, forwebonly@web.de Date: Wednesday, March 31, 2010, 12:02 AM On Fri, 2010-03-26 at 09:04 -0700, Boris Derzhavets wrote:> Could you try to build Xen 4.0-rc8 & Pvops kernel by hands on Debian > Lenny ( Squeeze would be better) > View just as sample , referencing pvops kernel checkout as well :- > > http://www.fsdaily.com/HighEnd/Set_up_Xen_3_4_3_Dom0_via_xenified_2_6_31_12_kernel_on_top_Ubuntu_9_10_Server > > Boris.Hi Boris, Have you managed to build Xen 4.0 into Ubuntu? /Peter _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users