At <http://www.xen.org/download/> there are two downloads for v.3.4.1
and only a very brief description of each:
Xen 3.4.1 (hypervisor and tools) official source distribution
and
Linux 2.6.18 with Xen 3.4.x support source tarball
What''s the difference? The implication is that the first is *not*
Linux.
Which Linux (of the nearly innumerable distros) is the second?
TIA.
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On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 6:58 AM, ken<gebser@mousecar.com> wrote:> > At <http://www.xen.org/download/> there are two downloads for v.3.4.1 > and only a very brief description of each: > > Xen 3.4.1 (hypervisor and tools) official source distributionThis is the xen tools source.> > and > > Linux 2.6.18 with Xen 3.4.x support source tarballThis is the patched linux kernel.> > What''s the difference? The implication is that the first is *not* Linux.Both of these need to be dropped into an already installed linux distro. A lot of Xenites use Centos, but it''s not required. -Bruce> > Which Linux (of the nearly innumerable distros) is the second? > > > TIA. > > -- > War is a failure of the imagination. > --William Blake > > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users >_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
On 08/26/2009 10:32 AM Bruce Edge wrote:> On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 6:58 AM, ken<gebser@mousecar.com> wrote: >> At <http://www.xen.org/download/> there are two downloads for v.3.4.1 >> and only a very brief description of each: >> >> Xen 3.4.1 (hypervisor and tools) official source distribution > > This is the xen tools source. > >> and >> >> Linux 2.6.18 with Xen 3.4.x support source tarball > > This is the patched linux kernel. > >> What''s the difference? The implication is that the first is *not* Linux. > > Both of these need to be dropped into an already installed linux distro.I''m guessing, then, that the xen tools source needs to be compiled. And the patched linux kernel (of the "support source tarball") needs also to be compiled and then replaces the kernel that came with whatever distro I''m using, yes? Does it show that I''m a noob at xen?> A lot of Xenites use Centos, but it''s not required.Haven''t tried CentOS yet, but have heard good about it. It uses RPMs, right? I''d like to use Fedora (just for the RedHat name really), but have heard they make it a pain to get their packages. Corroboration, anyone?> > -BruceThanks, Bruce.> >>.... >> >> TIA._______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
-----Original Message----- From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of ken Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 6:47 AM To: Xen users mailing list Subject: Re: [Xen-users] Two v.3.4.1 downloads On 08/26/2009 10:32 AM Bruce Edge wrote:> On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 6:58 AM, ken<gebser@mousecar.com> wrote: >> At <http://www.xen.org/download/> there are two downloads for v.3.4.1 >> and only a very brief description of each: >> >> Xen 3.4.1 (hypervisor and tools) official source distribution > > This is the xen tools source. > >> and >> >> Linux 2.6.18 with Xen 3.4.x support source tarball > > This is the patched linux kernel. > >> What''s the difference? The implication is that the first is *not* Linux. > > Both of these need to be dropped into an already installed linux distro.>I''m guessing, then, that the xen tools source needs to be compiled. >And the patched linux kernel (of the "support source tarball") needs >also to be compiled and then replaces the kernel that came with whatever >distro I''m using, yes?>Does it show that I''m a noob at xen?You are correct. You need to compile everything. It''s not hard and and xen.org has links to sites that will help you during the install.> A lot of Xenites use Centos, but it''s not required.>Haven''t tried CentOS yet, but have heard good about it. It uses RPMs, >right? I''d like to use Fedora (just for the RedHat name really), but >have heard they make it a pain to get their packages. Corroboration, >anyone?CentOS is a good OS and lost of people use it. CentOS does use RPM''s, but I would not use RPM''s for Xen (just how I do things).> > -Bruce>Thanks, Bruce.> >>.... >> >> TIA._______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 5:46 PM, ken<gebser@mousecar.com> wrote:> I''m guessing, then, that the xen tools source needs to be compiled. > And the patched linux kernel (of the "support source tarball") needs > also to be compiled and then replaces the kernel that came with whatever > distro I''m using, yes? >Yes, if you want to compile everything. Not necessarily, if you simply want a working setup, as you could use Xen 3.x with RHEL''s bundled kernel-xen.>> A lot of Xenites use Centos, but it''s not required. > > Haven''t tried CentOS yet, but have heard good about it. It uses RPMs, > right? I''d like to use Fedora (just for the RedHat name really), but > have heard they make it a pain to get their packages. Corroboration, > anyone?If you use RHEL/Centos you can use Gitco''s Xen packages http://www.gitco.de/repo/ This is basically the compiled version of Xen hypervisor and tools. You still use RHEL''s kernel-xen. This is the easiest way for RHEL/Centos users to use Xen 3.4.1, and should work great for normal setups. Some newer features (like scsi passthrough) might not work in this configuration though, due to lack of kernel support. -- Fajar _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 3:46 AM, ken<gebser@mousecar.com> wrote:> > On 08/26/2009 10:32 AM Bruce Edge wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 6:58 AM, ken<gebser@mousecar.com> wrote: >>> At <http://www.xen.org/download/> there are two downloads for v.3.4.1 >>> and only a very brief description of each: >>> >>> Xen 3.4.1 (hypervisor and tools) official source distribution >> >> This is the xen tools source. >> >>> and >>> >>> Linux 2.6.18 with Xen 3.4.x support source tarball >> >> This is the patched linux kernel. >> >>> What''s the difference? The implication is that the first is *not*Linux.>> >> Both of these need to be dropped into an already installed linux distro. > > I''m guessing, then, that the xen tools source needs to be compiled. > And the patched linux kernel (of the "support source tarball") needs > also to be compiled and then replaces the kernel that came with whatever > distro I''m using, yes?It doesn''t replace the kernel exactly, it;s additional line added to the grub entry before the kernel. I''m also getting up to speed here, but I managed to get a 2.6.31 dom0 running using these references on top of Ubuntu 9.04: http://bderzhavets.wordpress.com/2009/07/07/building-xenified-2-6-30-1-kernel-via-xen-patches-2-6-30-2-tar-bz2/ http://bderzhavets.wordpress.com/2009/08/14/attempt-of-prevu-xen-3-4-1-hypervisor-on-ubuntu-jaunty-server-64-bit/ -Bruce> > Does it show that I''m a noob at xen? > > >> A lot of Xenites use Centos, but it''s not required. > > Haven''t tried CentOS yet, but have heard good about it. It uses RPMs, > right? I''d like to use Fedora (just for the RedHat name really), but > have heard they make it a pain to get their packages. Corroboration, > anyone? > > >> >> -Bruce > > Thanks, Bruce. > > >> >>>.... >>> >>> TIA. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users >_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
It does to replace the kernel in addition to adding another line to grub (or other boot loader). You need a xen kernel to run xen.. _____ From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Edge Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:12 AM To: gebser@mousecar.com; Xen users mailing list Subject: Re: [Xen-users] Two v.3.4.1 downloads On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 3:46 AM, ken<gebser@mousecar.com> wrote:> > On 08/26/2009 10:32 AM Bruce Edge wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 6:58 AM, ken<gebser@mousecar.com> wrote: >>> At <http://www.xen.org/download/> there are two downloads for v.3.4.1 >>> and only a very brief description of each: >>> >>> Xen 3.4.1 (hypervisor and tools) official source distribution >> >> This is the xen tools source. >> >>> and >>> >>> Linux 2.6.18 with Xen 3.4.x support source tarball >> >> This is the patched linux kernel. >> >>> What''s the difference? The implication is that the first is *not*Linux.>> >> Both of these need to be dropped into an already installed linux distro. > > I''m guessing, then, that the xen tools source needs to be compiled. > And the patched linux kernel (of the "support source tarball") needs > also to be compiled and then replaces the kernel that came with whatever > distro I''m using, yes?It doesn''t replace the kernel exactly, it;s additional line added to the grub entry before the kernel. I''m also getting up to speed here, but I managed to get a 2.6.31 dom0 running using these references on top of Ubuntu 9.04: http://bderzhavets.wordpress.com/2009/07/07/building-xenified-2-6-30-1-kerne l-via-xen-patches-2-6-30-2-tar-bz2/ http://bderzhavets.wordpress.com/2009/08/14/attempt-of-prevu-xen-3-4-1-hyper visor-on-ubuntu-jaunty-server-64-bit/ -Bruce> > Does it show that I''m a noob at xen? > > >> A lot of Xenites use Centos, but it''s not required. > > Haven''t tried CentOS yet, but have heard good about it. It uses RPMs, > right? I''d like to use Fedora (just for the RedHat name really), but > have heard they make it a pain to get their packages. Corroboration, > anyone? > > >> >> -Bruce > > Thanks, Bruce. > > >> >>>.... >>> >>> TIA. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users >_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users