Boris Derzhavets
2008-Nov-02 14:17 UTC
Fw: Re: [Xen-users] What packages ubuntu-xen-server & ubuntu-xen-desktop are up to on intrepid
I have installed Ubuntu Intrepid Server on bare metal and successfully ran:- # apt-get install ubuntu-xen-server. It installed several packages on system . Now i can see files /boot/xen-3.3.gz, /etc/init.d/xend, /etc/init.d/xendomains, but no xenified kernel gets in. Attempt to use vmlinuz-2.6.27-7-server, obviously , fails with system panic. I do remember recompiling procedure for Xen 3.2.1 hypervisor on CentOS 5.2 . New xen.gz kept working with old CentOS 5.2 xenified kernel:- http://grantmcwilliams.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=204:recompile-xen-321-for-centos-5&catid=97:xen-howtos&Itemid=379 It was based on :- rpm -i http://bits.xensource.com/oss-xen/release/3.2.0/centos-5.1/xen-3.2.0-0xs.centos5.src.rpm Actually , review by Grant MacWilliams :- http://grantmcwilliams.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=229:install-xen-33-x8664-on-centos-5-the-easy-way&catid=97:xen-howtos&Itemid=379 also put in work xen-3.3.gz with old xenified kernel from RH repositories. This port i have been using many times with minor vncviewer''s issues. I wonder would it be able to backport this package from Intrepid to Hardy ? --- On Sun, 11/2/08, Boris Derzhavets <bderzhavets@yahoo.com> wrote: From: Boris Derzhavets <bderzhavets@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Xen-users] What packages ubuntu-xen-server & ubuntu-xen-desktop are up to on intrepid To: deshantm@gmail.com Cc: xen-users@lists.xensource.com Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 2:28 AM Sorry, for stupid question. Are you saying that install ubuntu-xen-server on Itrepid Server will bring to system xen-3.3.gz ,vmlinuz-2.6.18.8-xen,initrd-2.6.18.8-xen.img ? In other words, would it work like cloning via "hg" Xen 3.3 repository to local host and making xen build with 2.6.18 kernel ? Actually, allows to avoid painful procedure of apt-getting packages required for successful build:- gcc,build-essentials,zlib,libncurses, . . . Through my comprehension Xen Hypervisor requires xenified kernel, ramdisk, and daemon xend to run on the system. Otherwise, i don''t understand what exactly mean words :- "Intrepid apparently does have Xen 3.3 hypervisor support" Thank you. Boris --- On Sun, 11/2/08, Todd Deshane <deshantm@gmail.com> wrote: From: Todd Deshane <deshantm@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Xen-users] What packages ubuntu-xen-server & ubuntu-xen-desktop are up to on intrepid To: bderzhavets@yahoo.com Cc: xen-users@lists.xensource.com Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 12:41 AM On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 5:06 PM, Boris Derzhavets <bderzhavets@yahoo.com> wrote:> I''ve recently installed Ubuntu Intrepid Server PV DomU at Xen 3.3CentOS 5.2> Dom0. Details here (if needed) :- > http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/111103/index.html > Running Synaptic Manager at DomU i''ve noticed packages mentioned aboveas> available > for install . I don''t intend install ubuntu-xen-server on DomU , butUbuntu> Intrepid Server running on bare metal will potentially allow (?) toinstall> ubuntu-xen-server > ( with alldependent packages).> Per recent message from Todd Deshane, i''ve learned , that there is no > option to install > Xen 3.3 on Ubuntu Intrepid Server to create Dom0, unless to make a porton> your own :) Apparently a couple of months is not enough for forwardporting> Xen 3.3 to intrepid kernel, but i am still confused about packages in > Synaptic. What they are supposed to serve ? >Just to clarify, Intrepid apparently does have Xen 3.3 hypervisor support. http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/ubuntu-xen-server The dom0 kernel, just like with Fedora 9,10, is missing from Intrepid as both Fedora and Ubuntu decided to wait for upstream linux xen support [1,2] in order for them to again include a dom0 kernel. A pv_ops-based dom0 kernel should soon be supported by the xen developers and be put into mainline Linux [1] http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/XenParavirtOps [2] http://xenbits.xensource.com/paravirt_ops/patches.hg Cheers, Todd -- Todd Deshane http://todddeshane.net http://runningxen.com _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Boris Derzhavets
2008-Nov-02 14:39 UTC
[Xen-users] Please backport Xen 3.3 from Intrepid ( appears to be old request)
https://bugs.launchpad.net/hardy-backports/+bug/260998
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Paul Schulze
2008-Nov-02 15:05 UTC
Re: [Xen-users] What packages ubuntu-xen-server & ubuntu-xen-desktop are up to on intrepid
Hi Boris, I am currently thinking of upgrading to Ubuntu Intrepid myself, or backporting xen-3.3 until an official backport is made (which seems to be in progress, from what I read). However, the biggest problem at the moment seems (as you already mentioned) to be the kernel. Even though all other packages that were part of Ubuntu in the past are included in the new version as well, the changelog of the xen-3.3 source package states, that users are on their own to find a suitable kernel. Do you (or anyone else) know, if the Ubuntu Hardy Dom0 kernel works with Xen and if so, does it support use of the new features (f.e. like PvSCSI, amongst others), or are there problems to be expected? Thanks, Paul. -- Paul Schulze Mail: avlex gmx net ($1@$2.$3) Public Key: http://solaris-net.dyndns.org/keys/key_avlex.asc "Making mistakes is human, but to really screw things up, you need Computers" Am 02.11.2008 um 15:17 schrieb Boris Derzhavets:> I have installed Ubuntu Intrepid Server on bare metal and > successfully ran:- > > # apt-get install ubuntu-xen-server. > > It installed several packages on system . Now i can see files > /boot/xen-3.3.gz, /etc/init.d/xend, /etc/init.d/xendomains, but no > xenified kernel gets in. Attempt to use vmlinuz-2.6.27-7-server, > obviously , fails with system panic. > I do remember recompiling procedure for Xen 3.2.1 hypervisor on > CentOS 5.2 . New xen.gz kept working with old CentOS 5.2 xenified > kernel:- > > http://grantmcwilliams.com/index.php? > option=com_content&view=article&id=204:recompile-xen-321-for- > centos-5&catid=97:xen-howtos&Itemid=379 > > It was based on :- > rpm -i http://bits.xensource.com/oss-xen/release/3.2.0/centos-5.1/ > xen-3.2.0-0xs.centos5.src.rpm > > Actually , review by Grant MacWilliams :- > > http://grantmcwilliams.com/index.php? > option=com_content&view=article&id=229:install-xen-33-x8664-on- > centos-5-the-easy-way&catid=97:xen-howtos&Itemid=379 > > also put in work xen-3.3.gz with old xenified kernel from RH > repositories. > This port i have been using many times with minor vncviewer''s issues. > > I wonder would it be able to backport this package from Intrepid to > Hardy ? > > --- On Sun, 11/2/08, Boris Derzhavets <bderzhavets@yahoo.com> wrote: > From: Boris Derzhavets <bderzhavets@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [Xen-users] What packages ubuntu-xen-server & ubuntu- > xen-desktop are up to on intrepid > To: deshantm@gmail.com > Cc: xen-users@lists.xensource.com > Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 2:28 AM > > Sorry, for stupid question. Are you saying that install ubuntu- > xen-server on Itrepid Server will bring to system > xen-3.3.gz ,vmlinuz-2.6.18.8-xen,initrd-2.6.18.8-xen.img ? > In other words, would it work like cloning via "hg" Xen 3.3 > repository to local host and making xen build with 2.6.18 kernel ? > Actually, allows to avoid painful procedure of apt-getting packages > required for > successful build:- gcc,build-essentials,zlib,libncurses, . . . > Through my comprehension Xen Hypervisor requires xenified kernel, > ramdisk, > and daemon xend to run on the system. > > Otherwise, i don''t understand what exactly mean words :- > "Intrepid apparently does have Xen 3.3 hypervisor support" > > Thank you. > Boris > > --- On Sun, 11/2/08, Todd Deshane <deshantm@gmail.com> wrote: > From: Todd Deshane <deshantm@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Xen-users] What packages ubuntu-xen-server & ubuntu- > xen-desktop are up to on intrepid > To: bderzhavets@yahoo.com > Cc: xen-users@lists.xensource.com > Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 12:41 AM > > On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 5:06 PM, Boris Derzhavets > <bderzhavets@yahoo.com> > wrote: > > I''ve recently installed Ubuntu Intrepid Server PV DomU at Xen 3.3 > CentOS 5.2 > > Dom0. Details here (if needed) :- > > http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/111103/index.html > > Running Synaptic Manager at DomU i''ve noticed packages mentioned > above > as > > available > > for install . I don''t intend install ubuntu-xen-server on DomU , but > Ubuntu > > Intrepid Server running on bare metal will potentially allow (?) to > install > > ubuntu-xen-server > > ( with all > dependent packages). > > Per recent message from Todd Deshane, i''ve learned , that there > is no > > option to install > > Xen 3.3 on Ubuntu Intrepid Server to create Dom0, unless to make > a port > on > > your own :) Apparently a couple of months is not enough for forward > porting > > Xen 3.3 to intrepid kernel, but i am still confused about > packages in > > Synaptic. What they are supposed to serve ? > > > > Just to clarify, Intrepid apparently does have Xen 3.3 hypervisor > support. > http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/ubuntu-xen-server > > The dom0 kernel, just like with Fedora 9,10, is missing from > Intrepid as > both Fedora and Ubuntu decided to wait for upstream linux xen > support [1,2] > in order for them to again include a dom0 kernel. A pv_ops-based dom0 > kernel should soon be supported by the xen developers and be put into > mainline Linux > > [1] http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/XenParavirtOps > [2] > http://xenbits.xensource.com/paravirt_ops/patches.hg > > Cheers, > Todd > > -- > Todd Deshane > http://todddeshane.net > http://runningxen.com > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Boris Derzhavets
2008-Nov-02 18:06 UTC
Re: [Xen-users] What packages ubuntu-xen-server & ubuntu-xen-desktop are up to on intrepid
Paul, Current Xen 3.2 port to Hardy works fine regarding issues i was concerned about:- http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/110728/index.html http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/110642/index.html http://librenix.com/?inode=12795 Boris. --- On Sun, 11/2/08, Paul Schulze <avlex@gmx.net> wrote: From: Paul Schulze <avlex@gmx.net> Subject: Re: [Xen-users] What packages ubuntu-xen-server & ubuntu-xen-desktop are up to on intrepid To: "xen-users" <xen-users@lists.xensource.com> Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 10:05 AM Hi Boris, I am currently thinking of upgrading to Ubuntu Intrepid myself, or backporting xen-3.3 until an official backport is made (which seems to be in progress, from what I read). However, the biggest problem at the moment seems (as you already mentioned) to be the kernel. Even though all other packages that were part of Ubuntu in the past are included in the new version as well, the changelog of the xen-3.3 source package states, that users are on their own to find a suitable kernel. Do you (or anyone else) know, if the Ubuntu Hardy Dom0 kernel works with Xen and if so, does it support use of the new features (f.e. like PvSCSI, amongst others), or are there problems to be expected? Thanks, Paul. -- Paul Schulze Mail: avlex gmx net ($1@$2.$3) Public Key: http://solaris-net.dyndns.org/keys/key_avlex.asc "Making mistakes is human, but to really screw things up, you need Computers" Am 02.11.2008 um 15:17 schrieb Boris Derzhavets:> I have installed Ubuntu Intrepid Server on bare metal and successfullyran:-> > # apt-get install ubuntu-xen-server. > > It installed several packages on system . Now i can see files > /boot/xen-3.3.gz, /etc/init.d/xend, /etc/init.d/xendomains, but no > xenified kernel gets in. Attempt to use vmlinuz-2.6.27-7-server,obviously , fails with system panic.> I do remember recompiling procedure for Xen 3.2.1 hypervisor on CentOS5.2 . New xen.gz kept working with old CentOS 5.2 xenified kernel:-> >http://grantmcwilliams.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=204:recompile-xen-321-for-centos-5&catid=97:xen-howtos&Itemid=379> > It was based on :- > rpm -ihttp://bits.xensource.com/oss-xen/release/3.2.0/centos-5.1/xen-3.2.0-0xs.centos5.src.rpm> > Actually , review by Grant MacWilliams :- > >http://grantmcwilliams.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=229:install-xen-33-x8664-on-centos-5-the-easy-way&catid=97:xen-howtos&Itemid=379> > also put in work xen-3.3.gz with old xenified kernel from RH repositories. > This port i have been using many times with minor vncviewer''s issues. > > I wonder would it be able to backport this package from Intrepid to Hardy?> > --- On Sun, 11/2/08, Boris Derzhavets <bderzhavets@yahoo.com> wrote: > From: Boris Derzhavets <bderzhavets@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [Xen-users] What packages ubuntu-xen-server &ubuntu-xen-desktop are up to on intrepid> To: deshantm@gmail.com > Cc: xen-users@lists.xensource.com > Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 2:28 AM > > Sorry, for stupid question. Are you saying that installubuntu-xen-server on Itrepid Server will bring to system xen-3.3.gz ,vmlinuz-2.6.18.8-xen,initrd-2.6.18.8-xen.img ?> In other words, would it work like cloning via "hg" Xen 3.3repository to local host and making xen build with 2.6.18 kernel ?> Actually, allows to avoid painful procedure of apt-getting packagesrequired for> successful build:- gcc,build-essentials,zlib,libncurses, . . . > Through my comprehension Xen Hypervisor requires xenified kernel, ramdisk, > and daemon xend to run on the system. > > Otherwise, i don''t understand what exactly mean words :- > "Intrepid apparently does have Xen 3.3 hypervisor support" > > Thank you. > Boris > > --- On Sun, 11/2/08, Todd Deshane <deshantm@gmail.com> wrote: > From: Todd Deshane <deshantm@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Xen-users] What packages ubuntu-xen-server &ubuntu-xen-desktop are up to on intrepid> To: bderzhavets@yahoo.com > Cc: xen-users@lists.xensource.com > Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 12:41 AM > > On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 5:06 PM, Boris Derzhavets<bderzhavets@yahoo.com>> wrote: > > I''ve recently installed Ubuntu Intrepid Server PV DomU at Xen 3.3 > CentOS 5.2 > > Dom0. Details here (if needed) :- > > http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/111103/index.html > > Running Synaptic Manager at DomU i''ve noticed packages mentionedabove> as > > available > > for install . I don''t intend install ubuntu-xen-server on DomU ,but> Ubuntu > > Intrepid Server running on bare metal will potentially allow (?) to > install > > ubuntu-xen-server > > ( with all > dependent packages). > > Per recent message from Todd Deshane, i''ve learned , that thereis no> > option to install > > Xen 3.3 on Ubuntu Intrepid Server to create Dom0, unless to make aport> on > > your own :) Apparently a couple of months is not enough for forward > porting > > Xen 3.3 to intrepid kernel, but i am still confused about packages in > > Synaptic. What they are supposed to serve ? > > > > Just to clarify, Intrepid apparently does have Xen 3.3 hypervisor support. > http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/ubuntu-xen-server > > The dom0 kernel, just like with Fedora 9,10, is missing from Intrepid as > both Fedora and Ubuntu decided to wait for upstream linux xen support[1,2]> in order for them to again include a dom0 kernel. A pv_ops-based dom0 > kernel should soon be supported by the xen developers and be put into > mainline Linux > > [1] http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/XenParavirtOps > [2] > http://xenbits.xensource.com/paravirt_ops/patches.hg > > Cheers, > Todd > > --Todd Deshane > http://todddeshane.net > http://runningxen.com > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Tim Post
2008-Nov-02 19:08 UTC
Re: [Xen-users] What packages ubuntu-xen-server & ubuntu-xen-desktop are up to on intrepid
On Sun, 2008-11-02 at 10:06 -0800, Boris Derzhavets wrote:> Paul, > Current Xen 3.2 port to Hardy works fine regarding issues i was > concerned about:- > > http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/110728/index.html > http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/110642/index.html > http://librenix.com/?inode=12795 > >I''m using a modified version of the OpenSUSE 2.6.25.16 kernel on both without issue (with Hardy and Intrepid). My configs: 64 bit HV, 32 bit PAE dom 0, mixed 32/64 guests (working fine) 32 bit HV, 32 bit PAE dom 0, 32 bit guests (working fine) 64 bit HV, 64 bit dom 0, mixed 32/64 bit guests (almost working fine, time still goes backwards even with jiffies) This is the same with both HV versions, plus xen-unstable. So, unless you have ram beyond the reach of PAE .. I recommend installing a 32 bit dom-0, 64 bit HV and 32 bit PAE dom-0 kernel .. while waiting for dom-0 ops in mainline. I hope to have the kernels out this week via hg/git, even if still buggy with a 64 bit dom-0. I''m using this as a stop-gap only, while waiting. Cheers, --Tim _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users