Xen users - Feb 2007 - Newbie trying to understand how to get Xen working

First off I apologize for the stupidity of my questions here, I am a 
linux newbie and i''ve been reading forums till my head hurts and I just
dont get it.

I am trying to get Xen working with ubuntu server 6.10 64bit, on a dual 
dualcore xeon system with 4gb ram. I got it successfully installed, so 
sudo xm list shows Domain-0. But i dont understand how i am supposed to 
install the other OS''s (DomU??) All the guides i have found talk about 
creating an image file, bootstrapping from a link yada yada,

i guess my actual question is, is it possible to install the different 
OS''s off of their install CD''s? to actual hard drive
partitions? and
what do i need to do to accomplish that? I am very new to linux so be 
gentle please :-D

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On Mon, 2007-02-12 at 15:02 -0500, Michael Wineland
wrote:
> First off I apologize for the stupidity of my questions here, I am a 
> linux newbie and i''ve been reading forums till my head hurts and I
just
> dont get it.
> 
It''s kinda difficult to explain most things if our knowledge of Linux
in
general is lacking as most people don''t want to have to give a Linux
101
course in this ML.  I would probably try to get accustomed to Linux in
general before taking on something like Xen.  Xen is a bit of an
"advanced" topic and right now I''m not sure if there are
any/many
point-n-click solutions for it.
> I am trying to get Xen working with ubuntu server 6.10 64bit, on a dual 
> dualcore xeon system with 4gb ram. I got it successfully installed, so 
> sudo xm list shows Domain-0. But i dont understand how i am supposed to 
> install the other OS''s (DomU??) All the guides i have found talk
about
> creating an image file, bootstrapping from a link yada yada,
> 
They are probably referring to a paravirtualized (PV) domU.  PV domains
use a patched version of the vanilla kernel that comes with most (Linux)
distributions, so a typical install-from-cd is not possible.  If you are
referring to full virtualization then it is possible *if* your hardware
supports it.

jailtime.org does have some pre-made images from some of the major Linux
distributions.  You can install onto hard drive partitions.  There is
documentation that explains this, but you do need to understand a little
Linux beforehand.  I''m sorry, but explaining from step 0 will simply
take ages (much longer than it took me to compose this email).

-m



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I appreciate your response, basicly where I work they expect me to learn
as I go. The first project they had me do was get Drupal working on ubuntu
server with no gui, when I barely knew any linux commands at all, I
learned alot more linux commands.

now I have xen installed, and my hardware does support full
virtualization, you already made things alot more clear for me just by
bringing that up, as i didnt realize the difference. I''m going to see
what
i can find about it, any advice would be appreciated though.

> On Mon, 2007-02-12 at 15:02 -0500, Michael Wineland wrote:
>> First off I apologize for the stupidity of my questions here, I am a
>> linux newbie and i''ve been reading forums till my head hurts
and I just
>> dont get it.
>>
>
> It''s kinda difficult to explain most things if our knowledge of
Linux in
> general is lacking as most people don''t want to have to give a
Linux 101
> course in this ML.  I would probably try to get accustomed to Linux in
> general before taking on something like Xen.  Xen is a bit of an
> "advanced" topic and right now I''m not sure if there are
any/many
> point-n-click solutions for it.
>
>> I am trying to get Xen working with ubuntu server 6.10 64bit, on a dual
>> dualcore xeon system with 4gb ram. I got it successfully installed, so
>> sudo xm list shows Domain-0. But i dont understand how i am supposed to
>> install the other OS''s (DomU??) All the guides i have found
talk about
>> creating an image file, bootstrapping from a link yada yada,
>>
>
> They are probably referring to a paravirtualized (PV) domU.  PV domains
> use a patched version of the vanilla kernel that comes with most (Linux)
> distributions, so a typical install-from-cd is not possible.  If you are
> referring to full virtualization then it is possible *if* your hardware
> supports it.
>
> jailtime.org does have some pre-made images from some of the major Linux
> distributions.  You can install onto hard drive partitions.  There is
> documentation that explains this, but you do need to understand a little
> Linux beforehand.  I''m sorry, but explaining from step 0 will
simply
> take ages (much longer than it took me to compose this email).
>
> -m
>
>
>
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Michael Wineland wrote:
> First off I apologize for the stupidity of my questions here, I am a 
> linux newbie and i''ve been reading forums till my head hurts and I
> just dont get it.
>
> I am trying to get Xen working with ubuntu server 6.10 64bit, on a 
> dual dualcore xeon system with 4gb ram. I got it successfully 
> installed, so sudo xm list shows Domain-0. But i dont understand how i 
> am supposed to install the other OS''s (DomU??) All the guides i
have
> found talk about creating an image file, bootstrapping from a link 
> yada yada,
>
> i guess my actual question is, is it possible to install the different 
> OS''s off of their install CD''s? to actual hard drive
partitions? and
> what do i need to do to accomplish that? I am very new to linux so be 
> gentle please :-D
>
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If you''re using ubuntu you don''t need to install from CD, you
can use
debootstrap to set up the OS.  For yum based distros you can do the same 
thing yum --chroot /mnt/sysimage, for example.

If you need more help I''m also on the GLLUG list.

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