Xen users - Aug 2006 - DomU install using Yast2 xen can''t find CDROM installation source (HDIO_GET_IDENTITY failed)

Team,

I''m using an OpenSuSE 10.1 dom0 host at 2.6.16.13-4-xen with
xen-3.0.2_09656-4.
(the stock configuration, I''d say)

Plop the DVD in the CDROM, fire up the install, the initrd is detected,
linuxrc starts but fails with
Could not find the SUSE Linux Installation Source
Activating manual setup program.

OK, detach the block device, re-attach the block device (why, I don''t
know,
because it''s already seen the initrd from the CDROM)
# xm block-attach 1 phy:hda hda r

On reattach, my XTERM console window burps with
hda: unknown partition table
ata_id[896]: main: HDIO_GET_IDENTITY failed for
''/dev/.tmp-3-0''

And that''s as far as I get.  Any ideas?


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> Plop the DVD in the CDROM, fire up the install, the initrd is detected,
> And that''s as far as I get.  Any ideas?
Try a network install (export the dvd via nfs or http, then specify the
url as installation source).

cheers,

  Gerd

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Hi,
> Could not find the SUSE Linux Installation Source
> Activating manual setup program.
It''s SUSE 10.1''s defect. In coming 10.2 this would be
improved.
Actually, In Novell SUSE Linux Enterprise 10 Server Xen works well with 
CD-ROM installation.

You could get 10.2 development version
http://en.opensuse.org/Development_Version

Or SLES10 evaluation
http://www.novell.com/

Noniko
hitumabushi@jcom.home.ne.jp


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I agree completely. I have never had a good DomU creation with SuSE 10.1 on a 
64-bit machine It always crashes just after installing the kernel-xen to the 
new install with 88 packages to go. Personally I think Novell should have 
delayed a month releasing 10.1. The trouble with the new update, rug, is a 
nightmare. I did create a DomU with 10.1 using the 32-bit kernel on an old 
Dell with a pair of Pentium II. If there would be a way to create a DVD with 
the current rpm updates you might be able to do it. However they have some 
new way of signing the installation. See 
http://en.opensuse.org/Making_a_DVD_from_CDs .

Forget trying to create using CD''s. That is hopeless. I once got it to
read
the first CD but couldn''t swap CD''s when requested. I did try
the published
way of block-list/detach/attach with no success. Finally ended up by copying 
the DVD to an iso file on the hard drive, dd /dev/dvd suse10_1.iso. Then 
installing from that iso.

After a month and a half of frustration I downloaded a trial version of SLES 
10 and it worked as advertised. Still can''t figure out how to easily
create a
vm2 from the first vm1 without installing from the DVD. Right now it is more 
of a sledge hammer approach. Create a copy of both the configuration file 
in /etc/xen/vm/ and the image file in /var/lib/xen/image/. Increment the vm 
name by one, vm1 becomes vm2. Edit the config file to point to the copied 
image and change the name. Then do an xm create and go to the console to 
adjust the network card configuration. I have document this approach and if 
anyone wants a copy of my notes drop me an e-mail. 

I am doing this work for a Master''s project at Ferris State University,
Big
Rapids, Michigan. Once the final paper is done I plan to make it available to 
the community. Possibly be able to creat a HOWTO for Xen on SeSE. We lost the 
graduate network classroom and had to merge with the undergrad program. The 
space was not present for the additional pc''s so they had to be shared.
We
couldn''t leave the machine up in Linux 24/7 due to other student needs.
The
solution was a server running Domain0 and twenty guests. Perfect environment 
for Xen. Because most of the students are communters they need to acces their 
Linux box from off campus via SSH.

Tim


On Friday 01 September 2006 08:57, Noniko wrote:
> Hi,
>
> > Could not find the SUSE Linux Installation Source
> > Activating manual setup program.
>
> It''s SUSE 10.1''s defect. In coming 10.2 this would be
improved.
> Actually, In Novell SUSE Linux Enterprise 10 Server Xen works well with
> CD-ROM installation.
>
> You could get 10.2 development version
> http://en.opensuse.org/Development_Version
>
> Or SLES10 evaluation
> http://www.novell.com/
>
> Noniko
> hitumabushi@jcom.home.ne.jp
>
>
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As I mentioned previously to Gerd, a network install won''t work if dom0
networking is broken.

I updated to Alpha2 with the same error.  No help.

I''ll try to grab a copy of SLES 10 and see if that works.


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SLES 10, same error.  I must admit Xen is one of the least usable products
I''ve come across in quite a while.
Very discouraging.


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Hi
> SLES 10, same error.  I must admit Xen is one of the least usable products
I''ve come across in quite a while.
Mmmmm....
Is the problem only on CD usage?
Has your Xen env succeeded in the classical way of making image file 
manually?

Noniko
hitumabushi@jcom.home.ne.jp

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On Friday 08 September 2006 05:59, Noniko wrote:
> Hi
>
> > SLES 10, same error.  I must admit Xen is one of the least usable
> > products I''ve come across in quite a while.
>
> Mmmmm....
> Is the problem only on CD usage?
> Has your Xen env succeeded in the classical way of making image file
> manually?
>
I''ve been using SuSE 10.1 quite happily to run Xen. I use yast2
dirinstall
from the xen server on the ''disk'' assigned for the virtual
machine. Then a
few tweaks to the /etc/fstab and /etc/inittab files and I can create the 
virtual machine.

One gotcha is that you need to disable any update installation sources on the 
xen server as the zen update stuff gets in a mangle and won''t release
the
mounted disk for ages. I think it''s getting confused over what needs
updating
on the server and the dirinstall area. Just run the update from within the 
virtual machine after you''ve got networking set up.

Matthew
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M.Wild@rl.ac.uk                    URL http://www.ukssdc.ac.uk/
UK Solar System Data Centre and
World Data Centre - Solar-Terrestrial Physics, Chilton
Rutherford Appleton Laboratory, Chilton, Didcot, Oxon, OX11 0QX

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Team,

Some success, finally!

dom0 - SLES10
domU - OpenSuSE (SLES installation source) install via DVD ISO or DVD CDROM

The init/linuxrc script would run but complain that it couldn''t find
the
installation source (the installation source mapped to hdb in the
configuration file)
I jumped through hoops detaching-attaching the block device, seeing the
''can''t find installation source'' message every time.

This worked for me:
When linuxrc fails with "Could not find the SUSE Linux Installation Source.
Activating manual setup program."

   - press <enter> to acknowledge the OK button
   - select the language
   - choose a keyboard map
   - start installation or system
   - start installation or update
   - choose the source medium -> hard disk
   - (optional) configure vnc
   - enter the hard disk partition -> hdb (the installation source)
   - enter the source directory -> (leave blank)

Installation continues...

Thanks for all the help.

On 9/8/06, Matthew Wild <M.Wild@rl.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> On Friday 08 September 2006 05:59, Noniko wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > > SLES 10, same error.  I must admit Xen is one of the least usable
> > > products I''ve come across in quite a while.
> >
> > Mmmmm....
> > Is the problem only on CD usage?
> > Has your Xen env succeeded in the classical way of making image file
> > manually?
> >
> I''ve been using SuSE 10.1 quite happily to run Xen. I use yast2
dirinstall
> from the xen server on the ''disk'' assigned for the
virtual machine. Then a
> few tweaks to the /etc/fstab and /etc/inittab files and I can create the
> virtual machine.
>
> One gotcha is that you need to disable any update installation sources on
> the
> xen server as the zen update stuff gets in a mangle and won''t
release the
> mounted disk for ages. I think it''s getting confused over what
needs
> updating
> on the server and the dirinstall area. Just run the update from within the
> virtual machine after you''ve got networking set up.
>
> Matthew
> --
> Matthew Wild                       Tel.: +44 (0)1235 445173
> M.Wild@rl.ac.uk                    URL http://www.ukssdc.ac.uk/
> UK Solar System Data Centre and
> World Data Centre - Solar-Terrestrial Physics, Chilton
> Rutherford Appleton Laboratory, Chilton, Didcot, Oxon, OX11 0QX
>
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