In the thread "[Wine] New to Wine...and already in trouble..." there was a spam post by kizi that says it was "Sent from the Wine - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com". Can people really send things to our list/forum from other sites/forums? It also seems odd that the reply directs a person to catch up on the thread by linking to Nabble instead of the Wine forum. It is possible that this is very normal and just something I haven't run into before. If so can someone please educate me as to the benefits?
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 21:42, tparker <tparker at etherstorm.net> wrote:> In the thread "[Wine] New to Wine...and already in trouble..." there was a > spam post by kizi that says it was "Sent from the Wine ?- Users mailing list > archive at Nabble.com". > > Can people really send things to our list/forum from other sites/forums? It > also seems odd that the reply directs a person to catch up on the thread by > linking to Nabble instead of the Wine forum. It is possible that this is > very normal and just something I haven't run into before. If so can someone > please educate me as to the benefits?This is just spam. Generally when you see a couple of URLs here and there, there's a 99.99% probability this is spam. Just ignore
There is (or was) a mailing list gateway, and about 10% of the users access this group via a mailing list rather than the web forum interface. This is normal. We might drop the gateway, though, because it's unsupported in the new version of phpbb, which we need because it has better antispam measures.
tparker wrote:> Would it be reasonable to block posting via Nabble (and anything > similar) and see if/how that changes the rate of spam posts we get?I've always thought posting to the mailing list should be limited to subscribers just as posting to the forum is, simply as a matter of fairness, but I doubt it would make much of a difference in the spam. Most of that is posted directly on the forum. What would help is the ability to force moderation on new posters, but that capability is not present in the version of phpbb used now. That's why the upgrade is needed.
What if a user's first x posts (3,5,10, whatever) had to be approved before the post can be posted on either the forum or the mailing list? And maybe after 200 valid posts, a moderator could elect a user to be an "approver", if you guys get short on moderators. An "approver" would have no where near the power of a moderator. An approver only would have the power to approve a post. A moderator could subtract valid posts from a users count toward not having to be appr
...approved if someone accidentally hits the "approve" button. _Wow_ was that ironic! And _no_ that was not intentional. But you get the idea. Cheers, Jake
SpawnHappyJake wrote:> What if a user's first x posts (3,5,10, whatever) had to be approved before the post can be posted on either the forum or the mailing list? >What part of> that capability is not present in the version of phpbb used now. That's why the upgrade is needed.do you not understand?
Martin Gregorie wrote:> BTW, I had a look at the phbb website yesterday and don't understand why > everybody thinks it can't connect to a mailing list when it appears that > the current version of phpbb has the ability to send posts to an MTA. >So you think it's perfectly fine to let spammers run free on the forum so long as the mailing list users are protected from it? Because your suggestion does absolutely nothing to help stop spam on the forum. The version of phpbb currently being used does NOT have the capability of forcing moderation on new users, which pretty much everyone realizes is the best way to control spam. The current version of phpbb DOES have that capability, but the mail2forum gateway does not work with it. And that brings us back to the issues discussed in http://forum.winehq.org/viewtopic.php?t=13332
If you know of a good mail/forum gateway that works with current phpbb, please let us know.
> What part of > > > that capability is not present in the version of phpbb used now. That's why the upgrade is needed. > > do you not understand? >My bad, Dimesio. I should have remembered that and prefaced my thought with "if you revise the forum website, then you can ...". So I take it that the barrier to upgrading to a newer phpbb is that the mailing list would not be supported by phpbb. I'm having a hard time believing that it would be completely impossible to have a mailing list if part of the WINE forum web scripting was written in phpbb. Couldn't another part of it be written in something other than the new phpbb? Couldn't it call a script that put everything posted into a mailing list? Or even write your own mailing list handler in the new phpbb, rather than depending on phpbb providing a ready-made mailing list handler? Well, no matter how wrong I might be, I hope the forum gets better for you guys (and me). Cheers, Jake