Hi there im new at the whole thing of linux, and newer in Wine. I mostly use Wine to run World of Warcraft in Ubuntu 11.04 i finally got the game to run correctly, and with no sound/video problems. The only problem i'm having is that, sometimes, when im inside World of wrcraft, sometimes the pc freezes... not only the wine, or the game, but the whole computer. I cant do anything but shut down or restar the computer (manually ) then i turn on the computer and keep on playin or whatever... and maybe if im again on the game, maybe it frezes again... so... dunno... i was hoping if someone could help me. I've searched all over the internet and found nothing about this. Some ppl have a similar problem, that the game crashes or wine freezes... but it's not my case... the whole computer is freezing in my case... anyway, thank you very much
Per the FAQ: http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ#head-7f5c96516e61609acb0b2de9c0e6e97eadaff31a> If you are getting a complete deadlock and are unable to even use your mouse after running Wine, it's probably not a specific problem with the Wine software. Wine is a user-level process, and shouldn't be able to completely hang the operating system under any circumstances. Instead, Wine is likely exposing a deeper problem with the system, such as a defective hardware driver, a bad memory stick, or overclocking flakiness. > > It's often a graphics driver problem, in which case non-Wine apps might also be affected. If running glxgears also crashes, it's definitely a graphics driver problem. The most common cause is upgrading to a new kernel without also updating the graphics drivers to match. Try reinstalling your graphics drivers. > > If the computer is a laptop and shutting itself off entirely, a likely cause is overheating. Some laptops have problems with cooling to begin with, and the Linux ACPI code controlling fans is known to be buggy. > > If that doesn't help, ask for help on the wine-users forum. Be sure to mention the name of the app, the version of wine, the output of cat /etc/issue , lspci | grep -i vga , and, if you're using the proprietary NVidia drivers, cat /proc/driver/nvidia/version . Maybe someone can help.So, what version of wine do you have, and what kind of video card and driver version?
Hi, On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 10:53 PM, kainisma <wineforum-user at winehq.org> wrote:> Hi there > im new at the whole thing of linux, and newer in Wine. > I mostly use Wine to run World of Warcraft ?in Ubuntu 11.04 > i finally got the game to run correctly, and with no sound/video problems. > The only problem i'm having is that, sometimes, ?when im inside World of wrcraft, ?sometimes the pc freezes... not only the wine, or the game, ?but the whole computer. I cant do anything but ?shut down or restar the computer (manually ) then i ?turn on the computer and keep on playin or whatever... and maybe if im again on the game, ?maybe it frezes again... > so... ?dunno... i was hoping if someone could help me. ?I've searched all over the internet and found nothing about this. ?Some ppl have a similar problem, that the game crashes or wine freezes... ?but it's not my case... ?the whole computer is freezing in my case... > > anyway, thank you very much >I am learning Wine myself. But for the hanging. I am pretty sure Wine or the program running inside it does not hang the computer - meaning kernel panic. The X (user interface) might hang, which is as bad as computer hanging. You could try CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE to get out. Then there is SysRq key combinations which would allow you to cleanly reboot. Sorry don't remember these - I have not had stability problems for years. Also a good way is to use ssh if you have two machines. Write down the IP address of the machine before running Wine. When it hangs write ssh <IP address> and it opens a shell to the hang machine. Then you can reboot it cleanly. If your other machine is Windows google for putty. It is a free ssh client for Windows. It just occurred to me that if you use closed source binary drivers from Nvidia or ATI (AMD) then those drivers could hang the whole machine causing kernel panic. And you are probably using them... I would also check memory of the machine. There is a free good test program - was it memcheck+ or something. I would also check for the hard disk with manufacturers diagnostic program. If you know how to compile kernel, that's a good test. With option -j4 for example. Sorry if this does not help. Best Regards Kari -- PICs, Displays,Relays - USB-SPI-I2C http://www.byvac.com USB and FPGA boards ?http://www.ztex.de I am just a happy customer
bcpeterson wrote:> Per the FAQ: > > http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ#head-7f5c96516e61609acb0b2de9c0e6e97eadaff31a > > > > If you are getting a complete deadlock and are unable to even use your mouse after running Wine, it's probably not a specific problem with the Wine software. Wine is a user-level process, and shouldn't be able to completely hang the operating system under any circumstances. Instead, Wine is likely exposing a deeper problem with the system, such as a defective hardware driver, a bad memory stick, or overclocking flakiness. > > > > It's often a graphics driver problem, in which case non-Wine apps might also be affected. If running glxgears also crashes, it's definitely a graphics driver problem. The most common cause is upgrading to a new kernel without also updating the graphics drivers to match. Try reinstalling your graphics drivers. > > > > If the computer is a laptop and shutting itself off entirely, a likely cause is overheating. Some laptops have problems with cooling to begin with, and the Linux ACPI code controlling fans is known to be buggy. > > > > If that doesn't help, ask for help on the wine-users forum. Be sure to mention the name of the app, the version of wine, the output of cat /etc/issue , lspci | grep -i vga , and, if you're using the proprietary NVidia drivers, cat /proc/driver/nvidia/version . Maybe someone can help. > > > So, what version of wine do you have, and what kind of video card and driver version?I searched in the FAQ but i guess i missed that part. Anyway, i put "lspci | grep -i vga" in terminal and this is what it showed : 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV730 PRO [Radeon HD 4650] Wine version: wine-1.2.2 the computer is brand new, so i really doubt that is memory problem, or HD problem or whatever. About the video card, it's kinda old, but it seems to function quite good. it's MSI R4650 (and the driver i found for it is that one that shows up there... ) maybe i should use catalyst (as it's the common driver for windows) but i really dont know if that'd be better than this one... and i read that people had some troubles using Catalyst drivers in ubuntu with wine. thanks a lot. PD: Sry for giving poor information... i really didn't see that one in FAQ :P
Martin Gregorie wrote:> On Thu, 2011-09-08 at 23:36 +0300, Kari Laine wrote: > > > > I would also check for the hard disk with manufacturers diagnostic program. > > > > > A simple and easy way to keep an eye on your disks' health is to install > the SMART monitoring package. It runs as a daemon that tracks operating > changes on your disk(s) and periodically runs a test on them. By default > it reports changes in the overnight logwatch report and I also have a > weekly cron job set up to do a more rigorous report. AFAIK SMART is part > of every distro (I use Fedora), so installation is straight forward. > > Almost all disks have been SMART compliant for several years now. > > > Martinthx for the info. i've just installed it. Now i'll take a look at it. And i didnt know anything about the bathtub curve, so thx for that too. Anyway, i've been running wine for some 5 hours maybe, or 6, i dunno, and fortunately it has not crashed anything yet. :P