Doh123, how is running a program off an NTFS partition asking for trouble? Ntfsprogs seems to handle it just fine. I know that NTFS doesn't let you mark a file as executable, and that the filesystem is susceptible to fragmentation, but you should just be able to tell it to run rather than display and be good. It shouldn't cause destruction. I think there might even be an NTFS defrag tool for Linux, I'd have to check. On May 1, 2011, at 1:50 PM, wine-users-request at winehq.org wrote:> Send wine-users mailing list submissions to > wine-users at winehq.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.winehq.org/mailman/listinfo/wine-users > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wine-users-request at winehq.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wine-users-owner at winehq.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of wine-users digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: GSP Family Tree fails at startup missing DLL? > (James McKenzie) > 2. Re: two worlds (dj--alex) > 3. Re: Alsa: underrun occured (James McKenzie) > 4. Re: two worlds (James McKenzie) > 5. Re: GSP Family Tree fails at startup missing DLL? (vitamin) > 6. Re: GSP Family Tree fails at startup missing DLL? (vitamin) > 7. Re: Tropico 3 Demo Graphics Problem - People are not visible > (doh123) > 8. Re: Is there a difference...? [question] (DIFTOW) > 9. Re: Is there a difference...? [question] (doh123) > 10. Re: Tropico 3 Demo Graphics Problem - People are not visible > (James McKenzie) > 11. Changing the windows file target properties? (M408) > 12. Re: Tropico 3 Demo Graphics Problem - People are not visible > (doh123) > 13. Re: Tropico 3 Demo Graphics Problem - People are not visible > (James McKenzie) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 10:01:40 -0700 > From: James McKenzie <jjmckenzie51 at gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Wine] GSP Family Tree fails at startup missing DLL? > To: wine-users at winehq.org > Message-ID: <4DBD91F4.2010704 at gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > On 4/26/11 6:14 PM, vitamin wrote: >> jl wrote: >>> james at james-laptop:~$ wine start 'c:/Family/family.exe'&> /tmp/famlog.txt >> This won't work. "start" program sans a separate process. You have to do something like this: >> >> Code: >> >> wine 'c:\Family\family.exe'&> /tmp/famlog.txt >> >> >> >> Also note back-slashes instead of forward slashes. MS for whatever reason decided to be different. >> > Also, error messages go to the STDERR queue. I use: > > [code] > > cd .wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/Family > wine family.exe & > /tmp/famlog.txt 2>&1 > > [/code] > > Catches all of the output.... > > BTW, most fixme's can be safely ignored. > > James McKenzie > > James McKenzie > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 12:04:04 -0500 > From: "dj--alex" <wineforum-user at winehq.org> > Subject: [Wine] Re: two worlds > To: wine-users at winehq.org > Message-ID: <1304269444.m2f.60286 at forum.winehq.org> > > im waiting about year for > normal playing in two worlds II > > i think better forgot about game, or wait a Nvidia Geforce 990 GTX or e.t.c > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 10:03:49 -0700 > From: James McKenzie <jjmckenzie51 at gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Wine] Alsa: underrun occured > To: wine-users at winehq.org > Message-ID: <4DBD9275.5070708 at gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > On 4/26/11 11:15 AM, jordan wrote: >> hi, >> >>> The fact is Ubuntu switched to PulseAudio starting with 8.04 and is >>> providing Alsa/OSS compatibility ever since. >>> So Alsa is probably not Canonical's main center of interest. >> erm.... Alsa is always going to be of main concern of ANY distribution >> of Linux. PA doesn't replace ALSA, it just runs on top of it. >> ALSA talks directly to hardware(@ thekernel level)... Applications >> talk to PA(if using pulseaudio), then PA talks to ALSA. PA is just a >> sound server, and resides in user-space. PA, Jack, etc aren't >> replacements for ALSA - they work with ALSA. > Wine does not directly support PA nor should it. Adding a compatibility > layer just slows things down (witness DirectX -> OpenGL in Wine.) > > Wine should not support PA, but support either ALSA or OSS (and OSS is > NOT dead.) > > James McKenzie > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 10:06:06 -0700 > From: James McKenzie <jjmckenzie51 at gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Wine] two worlds > To: wine-users at winehq.org > Message-ID: <4DBD92FE.7090503 at gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > On 5/1/11 10:04 AM, dj--alex wrote: >> im waiting about year for >> normal playing in two worlds II >> >> i think better forgot about game, or wait a Nvidia Geforce 990 GTX or e.t.c >> > If you have coding skills, you can always assist and try to make Wine's > code better... > > James McKenzie > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 12:13:32 -0500 > From: "vitamin" <wineforum-user at winehq.org> > Subject: [Wine] Re: GSP Family Tree fails at startup missing DLL? > To: wine-users at winehq.org > Message-ID: <1304270012.m2f.60289 at forum.winehq.org> > > James would you read what he posted? Your command is bogus. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 12:15:36 -0500 > From: "vitamin" <wineforum-user at winehq.org> > Subject: [Wine] Re: GSP Family Tree fails at startup missing DLL? > To: wine-users at winehq.org > Message-ID: <1304270136.m2f.60290 at forum.winehq.org> > > James, Just in case you didn?t get what I'm talking about: "&>" (no space) is NOT the same as "& >" (with space). > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 12:57:07 -0500 > From: "doh123" <wineforum-user at winehq.org> > Subject: [Wine] Re: Tropico 3 Demo Graphics Problem - People are not > visible > To: wine-users at winehq.org > Message-ID: <1304272627.m2f.60291 at forum.winehq.org> > > > viktorias wrote: >> Great news! I have updated today to Ubuntu 11.04 and I also updated wine and I reinstalled the ATI driver and the people appeared on the game! >> Tiny baby little hick up that the water is looking a bit weird, and if I set the water quality higher then the game crashes. > > > On Mac OS X... updating to 1.3.19 now just causes it to crash on start up for me... going back to 1.3.18 it starts but has the invis people problem... the crash is new with 1.3.19 for me, and happens using the Radeon or the Intel... back on 1.3.18 it still works perfectly on the Intel. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 13:35:35 -0500 > From: "DIFTOW" <wineforum-user at winehq.org> > Subject: [Wine] Re: Is there a difference...? [question] > To: wine-users at winehq.org > Message-ID: <1304274935.m2f.60292 at forum.winehq.org> > > > vitamin wrote: >> >> DIFTOW wrote: >>> Is there a difference in performance, if the application is installed with Wine instead of on Windows 7? Does it perform better on Linux, or is it the same? >> >> That depends on what performance you are talking about here. From your last posts its seems you talking about D3D performance. >> >> The answer is yes, there is a huge difference in D3D performance between Wine and Windows. By definition Wine would be at best 50% slower then native. In most cases it's 75%+ slower on modern games. > > > I know this of course. I knew I was going to confuse everyone about what I meant cause it is just one of those things that is not easy to explain. > > I meant, I have steam installed on Windows 7, on a separate partition. > Then in Ubuntu, I run Wine, and load the exe. So I'm booting the already installed program. > > Well, I tried installing Steam using Wine, to see if it improves performance versus just executing an exe that is installed on Windows 7. > > But I found out that it actually makes no difference at all. So there seems to be little to no need to install programs with Wine. All it appears to do, over just simply executing an existing EXE, is create 'icons' and a listing of the program in Ubuntu. > > Maybe it might better integrate it with the UI, but that is a big maybe. > > So I sort of answered my own question by trying both ways out. > > But to move on to a different focus. Would a Mac version of Half-Life 2 emulate better on Linux since it uses OpenGL? > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 14:04:51 -0500 > From: "doh123" <wineforum-user at winehq.org> > Subject: [Wine] Re: Is there a difference...? [question] > To: wine-users at winehq.org > Message-ID: <1304276691.m2f.60293 at forum.winehq.org> > > > DIFTOW wrote: >> >> I meant, I have steam installed on Windows 7, on a separate partition. >> Then in Ubuntu, I run Wine, and load the exe. So I'm booting the already installed program. >> > > your just asking for a world of hurt running programs off a NTFS partition. If its working... you are lucky... but I'm not sure why you'd want to do that. > > > DIFTOW wrote: >> >> But I found out that it actually makes no difference at all. So there seems to be little to no need to install programs with Wine. All it appears to do, over just simply executing an existing EXE, is create 'icons' and a listing of the program in Ubuntu. > > just because in your very limited tests that you have not noticed a difference, doesn't mean there is no difference. It also doesn't mean that because it works for 1 program that it will work for others. There are many programs that won't work at all if they are not installed in Wine. > > > DIFTOW wrote: >> >> But to move on to a different focus. Would a Mac version of Half-Life 2 emulate better on Linux since it uses OpenGL? > > how would you do that? The Mac version is native OSX quartz... opengl or not, you'd have to port it all to X11. i don't know of any program that can emulate or run that on Linux. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 12:15:21 -0700 > From: James McKenzie <jjmckenzie51 at gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Wine] Tropico 3 Demo Graphics Problem - People are not > visible > To: wine-users at winehq.org > Message-ID: <4DBDB149.8050503 at gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > On 5/1/11 10:57 AM, doh123 wrote: >> viktorias wrote: >>> Great news! I have updated today to Ubuntu 11.04 and I also updated wine and I reinstalled the ATI driver and the people appeared on the game! >>> Tiny baby little hick up that the water is looking a bit weird, and if I set the water quality higher then the game crashes. >> >> On Mac OS X... updating to 1.3.19 now just causes it to crash on start up for me... going back to 1.3.18 it starts but has the invis people problem... the crash is new with 1.3.19 for me, and happens using the Radeon or the Intel... back on 1.3.18 it still works perfectly on the Intel. >> > I think that I remember you were using MacPorts version of Wine. > > I'll look at 1.3.19 built using a different script. > > James McKenzie > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 14:35:25 -0500 > From: "M408" <wineforum-user at winehq.org> > Subject: [Wine] Changing the windows file target properties? > To: wine-users at winehq.org > Message-ID: <1304278525.m2f.60295 at forum.winehq.org> > > Hi, in order to complete an installation, I need to change the "target" property as you would see in windows. I tried opening explorer.exe and changing it through there, but there is no option to. Is there any way I can change this? To start playing WarcraftII, I have to open multiple files from different directories at once. Since I can't edit the target properties through wine or ubuntu, I don't know how to do this? Thanks for the help. > > Code: > ?/home/mike/.wine/dosdevices/c:/Program Files/DOSBox-0.74? > > > Code: > ?/home/mike/.wine/dosdevices/c:/Program Files/WarcraftII/war2.exe? -conf ?/home > > > Code: > /mike/.wine/dosdevices/c:/Program Files/WarcraftII/DOSBox 0.74 Options? -exit -fullscreen" > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 12 > Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 15:31:57 -0500 > From: "doh123" <wineforum-user at winehq.org> > Subject: [Wine] Re: Tropico 3 Demo Graphics Problem - People are not > visible > To: wine-users at winehq.org > Message-ID: <1304281917.m2f.60296 at forum.winehq.org> > > > jjmckenzie wrote: >> think that I remember you were using MacPorts version of Wine. >> >> I'll look at 1.3.19 built using a different script. >> >> James McKenzie > > > Tried 1.3.19 built from source in Wineskin, as well as just trying it manually from source and command line... haven't tried macports yet, its still listed as 1.3.18. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 13 > Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 13:49:37 -0700 > From: James McKenzie <jjmckenzie51 at gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Wine] Tropico 3 Demo Graphics Problem - People are not > visible > To: wine-users at winehq.org > Message-ID: <4DBDC761.6000200 at gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > On 5/1/11 1:31 PM, doh123 wrote: >> jjmckenzie wrote: >>> think that I remember you were using MacPorts version of Wine. >>> >>> I'll look at 1.3.19 built using a different script. >>> >>> James McKenzie >> >> Tried 1.3.19 built from source in Wineskin, as well as just trying it manually from source and command line... haven't tried macports yet, its still listed as 1.3.18. >> > Did it work or crash? > > I have 1.3.19 build from a script as well as from a customized Fink script. > > James McKenzie > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > wine-users mailing list > wine-users at winehq.org > http://www.winehq.org/mailman/listinfo/wine-users > > > End of wine-users Digest, Vol 70, Issue 3 > *****************************************
> Doh123, how is running a program off an NTFS partition asking for trouble? Ntfsprogs seems to handle it just fine. I know that NTFS doesn't let you mark a file as executable, and that the filesystem is susceptible to fragmentation, but you should just be able to tell it to run rather than display and be good. It shouldn't cause destruction. I think there might even be an NTFS defrag tool for Linux, I'd have to check. >Really NTFS is fairly good on fragmentation resistance as long as drive remains under 90 percent full. And shake defrag will work okish on it. I have had to use shake defrag from Linux on a ntfs drive that was that badly fragmented that windows defrag tools would not even attempt. But executable bit is not the only file system part Ntfsprogs is missing. There is a serous difference in mmap handling compared to ext2 ext3 or ext4 from the ntfs3g driver. These differences do cause failures in applications when on ntfs with wine that don't happen when on ext2 ext3 or ext4. So for us doing support we want tested on ext filesystems so we know if the issue you are seeing is ntfs3g issue or wine with every file-system. ntfsprogs still lacks a 100 percent working fsck to fix up in case of power loss or other case of lose of operation. So after power loss booting into windows can be required to restore access to the ntfs drive. Ok what cause a power loss like event. Wine finding a video card driver defect so crashing the kernel. So not a wise combination. Ntfs3g what you have to use for writing support also has a high cpu load than using a native ext3/4 as a loop back on ntfs3g. (Yes I know that is wrong but its the way the numbers work out). Really running loop back on top of another file-system should work out slower but this is one of these odd cases. Using NTFS is also not good to keep the separation between windows installed executable and wine installed executable. This can turn into major problems for wine and windows. Windows loading up an application installed by wine can completely destroy windows at times. Yes we don't like getting into trouble for destroying copies of windows. Also applications installed in windows and copied to wine can also have issues due to missing register entries and other things. Next issue is fools. Who here that wine works on NTFS so points the wine c drive to there windows c drive then wonder why next boot of windows nothing works. And the most annoying of all(we have this with Linux a little). Is that wine place holder executable get detected and deleted by lots of Commercial anti-virus software so causing malfunctions you will not otherwise see. There are particular commercial anti-viruses that run under Linux that should not be used with wine as well. But there are options under the commerical anti-viruses for Linux to exude wine directories from being scanned by them and to use something like clamav to cover the areas that are touchy. Not so simple in a Windows environment to have particular directories monitored and scanned by different anti-virus products. So this leads to major problems due to a lack of flexibility on the windows side. Secuirty you don't want to leave directories unmonitored. Simply for all sanity. Its better to act like wine does not work on NTFS at all. That way anyone running it on NTFS is doing so at there own risk can cannot be recommend it as working so we don't get more complaints from the issues that will crop up in time.
Wow! Thanks for the very informative response! So that CAN cause destruction (NTFS and Linux and WINE). Wow. Signing up for this mail subscription was a good idea. Looks like I'll learn a lot. Cheers, Jake On May 3, 2011, at 3:18 AM, wine-users-request at winehq.org wrote:> Send wine-users mailing list submissions to > wine-users at winehq.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.winehq.org/mailman/listinfo/wine-users > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wine-users-request at winehq.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wine-users-owner at winehq.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of wine-users digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Caution when deleting .wine ... (oiaohm) > 2. Re: Caution when deleting .wine ... (James McKenzie) > 3. Re: Noob-Having trouble getting programs to run (doh123) > 4. WARCRAFT 3 (yuskhanzab) > 5. Re: Is there a difference ...? (oiaohm) > 6. How to backup iPod files to Macbook (Cortimer09) > 7. Re: Ragnarok private server (yuskhanzab) > 8. Switching to 16-bit colour depth (from 24) - is it possible? > (Wintershade) > 9. Re: steam games not working (natostanco) > 10. Error in wine registry (pieterparker17) > 11. Re: Error in wine registry (oiaohm) > 12. Re: Error in wine registry (pieterparker17) > 13. Re: Switching to 16-bit colour depth (from 24) - is it > possible? (oiaohm) > 14. Can't see list of winetricks! (CrayonKing) > 15. Re: Can't see list of winetricks! (CrayonKing) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 21:32:09 -0500 > From: "oiaohm" <wineforum-user at winehq.org> > Subject: [Wine] Re: Caution when deleting .wine ... > To: wine-users at winehq.org > Message-ID: <1304389929.m2f.60355 at forum.winehq.org> > > topher.becca Owner ship of files and ownership of machine are two different things. Owner ship of files is a filesystem feature. > > Sudo is a Linux/Unix/Posix command to run as root/administrator user. > > Even under OS X its possible to run wine as the wrong user on the machine leading to permission stuff up. Since I am not a OS X user I cannot really tell you how to fix it. Since I don't know what will get to the the right user to correct an error like this. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 19:43:00 -0700 > From: James McKenzie <jjmckenzie51 at gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Wine] Caution when deleting .wine ... > To: wine-users at winehq.org > Message-ID: <4DBF6BB4.9090807 at gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > On 5/2/11 2:35 PM, topher.becca wrote: >> jjmckenzie wrote: >>> On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:16 AM, topher.becca<wineforum-user at winehq.org> wrote: >>> >>>> When I entered 'rm -rf ~/.wine' it says: >>>> rm: /Users/christopherwelch/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Inbox Toolbar: Permission denied >>>> rm: /Users/christopherwelch/.wine/drive_c/Program Files: Directory not empty >>>> rm: /Users/christopherwelch/.wine/drive_c/windows/profiles/All Users/Start Menu/Programs/Inbox Toolbar: Permission denied >>>> rm: /Users/christopherwelch/.wine/drive_c/windows/profiles/All Users/Start Menu/Programs: Directory not empty >>>> rm: /Users/christopherwelch/.wine/drive_c/windows/profiles/All Users/Start Menu: Directory not empty >>>> rm: /Users/christopherwelch/.wine/drive_c/windows/profiles/All Users: Directory not empty >>>> rm: /Users/christopherwelch/.wine/drive_c/windows/profiles: Directory not empty >>>> rm: /Users/christopherwelch/.wine/drive_c/windows: Directory not empty >>>> rm: /Users/christopherwelch/.wine/drive_c: Directory not empty >>>> rm: /Users/christopherwelch/.wine: Directory not empty >>>> >>>> What does this mean? >>>> >>> This means that your user does not 'own' the files. Did you by chance >>> run Wine as root or through sudo? The Wine FAQ has instructions on >>> how to fix file permissions. It appears that you are using a Mac, and >>> I highly recommend switching $HOME and then running sudo rm -rf .wine. >>> NEVER RUN WINE AS SUDO unless recommended and then you will have to >>> fix file permissions before running Wine again as your user. >>> >>> Location of file permissions fix: >>> >>> http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ#head-8b89c928ce782c014b8b312469223296093e1484 >>> >>> James McKenzie >> >> Actually, I'm the owner of the whole computer, so I should own all the files. > No, you don't and you should not. I know of at least three directories > on a Mac that this is not true. However, if you put the file in your > home directory you should own the file. >> Also, what is SUDO? I'm not sure as to what that is exactly. > Open terminal and type in man sudo. More information than you really need. > > The point is: How did you install Wine? > >> I am using a Mac, but could you walk me through? Whenever I remove Wine, and then reinstall it, I can go to the File Manager, click Shell, and go to the trash that has the icon of a trash can, and it still shows everything I have deleted, and I want to remove that. > This function may or may not work in Wine. I will have to look at this > and given my current time schedule it will be this weekend at the > earliest. However, there are other Wine on Mac folks that may be able > to provide guidance on how to get those files out of the Trash in File > Manager. This is NOT the Trash for the Mac area. > > James McKenzie > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 21:50:49 -0500 > From: "doh123" <wineforum-user at winehq.org> > Subject: [Wine] Re: Noob-Having trouble getting programs to run > To: wine-users at winehq.org > Message-ID: <1304391049.m2f.60357 at forum.winehq.org> > > according to the AppDB, I'm not sure anyones gotten it to work yet. > > http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=12391 > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 22:50:45 -0500 > From: "yuskhanzab" <wineforum-user at winehq.org> > Subject: [Wine] WARCRAFT 3 > To: wine-users at winehq.org > Message-ID: <1304394645.m2f.60358 at forum.winehq.org> > > mouse problem after i update wine to ver 1.3.19. i cant control the mouse and click left mouse properly in warcraft 3. some one have to fix this.. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 23:30:03 -0500 > From: "oiaohm" <wineforum-user at winehq.org> > Subject: [Wine] Re: Is there a difference ...? > To: wine-users at winehq.org > Message-ID: <1304397003.m2f.60359 at forum.winehq.org> > > >> Doh123, how is running a program off an NTFS partition asking for trouble? Ntfsprogs seems to handle it just fine. I know that NTFS doesn't let you mark a file as executable, and that the filesystem is susceptible to fragmentation, but you should just be able to tell it to run rather than display and be good. It shouldn't cause destruction. I think there might even be an NTFS defrag tool for Linux, I'd have to check. >> > > > Really NTFS is fairly good on fragmentation resistance as long as drive remains under 90 percent full. And shake defrag will work okish on it. I have had to use shake defrag from Linux on a ntfs drive that was that badly fragmented that windows defrag tools would not even attempt. > > But executable bit is not the only file system part Ntfsprogs is missing. There is a serous difference in mmap handling compared to ext2 ext3 or ext4 from the ntfs3g driver. These differences do cause failures in applications when on ntfs with wine that don't happen when on ext2 ext3 or ext4. So for us doing support we want tested on ext filesystems so we know if the issue you are seeing is ntfs3g issue or wine with every file-system. > > ntfsprogs still lacks a 100 percent working fsck to fix up in case of power loss or other case of lose of operation. So after power loss booting into windows can be required to restore access to the ntfs drive. Ok what cause a power loss like event. Wine finding a video card driver defect so crashing the kernel. So not a wise combination. > > Ntfs3g what you have to use for writing support also has a high cpu load than using a native ext3/4 as a loop back on ntfs3g. (Yes I know that is wrong but its the way the numbers work out). Really running loop back on top of another file-system should work out slower but this is one of these odd cases. > > Using NTFS is also not good to keep the separation between windows installed executable and wine installed executable. This can turn into major problems for wine and windows. Windows loading up an application installed by wine can completely destroy windows at times. Yes we don't like getting into trouble for destroying copies of windows. Also applications installed in windows and copied to wine can also have issues due to missing register entries and other things. > > Next issue is fools. Who here that wine works on NTFS so points the wine c drive to there windows c drive then wonder why next boot of windows nothing works. > > And the most annoying of all(we have this with Linux a little). Is that wine place holder executable get detected and deleted by lots of Commercial anti-virus software so causing malfunctions you will not otherwise see. There are particular commercial anti-viruses that run under Linux that should not be used with wine as well. But there are options under the commerical anti-viruses for Linux to exude wine directories from being scanned by them and to use something like clamav to cover the areas that are touchy. Not so simple in a Windows environment to have particular directories monitored and scanned by different anti-virus products. So this leads to major problems due to a lack of flexibility on the windows side. Secuirty you don't want to leave directories unmonitored. > > Simply for all sanity. Its better to act like wine does not work on NTFS at all. That way anyone running it on NTFS is doing so at there own risk can cannot be recommend it as working so we don't get more complaints from the issues that will crop up in time. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 23:46:05 -0500 > From: "Cortimer09" <wineforum-user at winehq.org> > Subject: [Wine] How to backup iPod files to Macbook > To: wine-users at winehq.org > Message-ID: <1304397965.m2f.60360 at forum.winehq.org> > > This article introduces a useful iPod tool called ipod to Mac Transfer (http://www.macdvdrippersoft.com/ipod-to-mac-transfer-imacsoft.html). > > Part 1: What can iMacsoft iPod to Mac Transfer Do? > > <1>Rip, copy and manage iPod music, videos, photos, podcasts and TV Shows between iPod/iPhone and Mac. > <2>Transfer files from iPod to Mac, iPhone to Mac. > <3>Edit and delete iPod/iPhone playlists. > <4>Copy files among multiple iPods. Transfer iPod to iPod on Mac. > <5>Transfer iPod music, videos, photos to iPhone. > > > Part 2: How to use iPod to Mac Transfer? > > > Step 0: Free download iPod to Mac Transfer (http://www.macdvdrippersoft.com/download/ipod-transfer/m-ipod-to-mac-transfer.dmg), install and run it. > All information about your iPod, such as type, capacity, version, serial number, and format, will be shown on the main interface. > > [Image: http://www.macdvdrippersoft.com/images/guide/mac-1.jpg ] > > Step 1: Transfer movies to iPod > Open the library/playlist that you want to transfer. > Click the "Add files to iPod" or "Add Folder to iPod" button. > > [Image: http://www.macdvdrippersoft.com/images/guide/mac-2.jpg ] > > Step 2: Locate the required audio files on the pop-up dialogbox and click "Open" button to import selected files to your iPod. > > [Image: http://www.macdvdrippersoft.com/images/guide/mac-3.jpg ] > > Step 3: Edit iPod Playlist > To those who want to create their own personalized iPod Playlist, you can try this function. > Choose the "File -> Playlist" option to create a new list , and then choose the "New Playlist" option from the submenu. > Drag & drop to import or export files need and drag it to the local, or you can choose the file from the local and drag it to the iPod. > > > More: > If you are Windows user, you can use AVCWare iPod to iTunes/PC Transfer (http://www.macdvdrippersoft.com/ipod-transfer-avcware.html) or Aiseesoft iPod Transfer (http://www.macdvdrippersoft.com/ipod-transfer-aiseesoft.html) > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 03:23:41 -0500 > From: "yuskhanzab" <wineforum-user at winehq.org> > Subject: [Wine] Re: Ragnarok private server > To: wine-users at winehq.org > Message-ID: <1304411021.m2f.60361 at forum.winehq.org> > > how can u play a ragnarok private server using wine? can u teach me how to do that?im also have the same problem... > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 03:48:41 -0500 > From: "Wintershade" <wineforum-user at winehq.org> > Subject: [Wine] Switching to 16-bit colour depth (from 24) - is it > possible? > To: wine-users at winehq.org > Message-ID: <1304412521.m2f.60362 at forum.winehq.org> > > Hello. I'm having a bit of trouble running some old games, like Planescape Torment (http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=22660&iTestingId=61130) (the GOG.com version). When I try to start the game, it complains about the desktop bit depth (I have 24 as default, and it requires 16-bit). > > The game suggests I should either run it in fullscreen (which I am), or to switch to 16-bit colour depth (which is quite an inconvenience if I have to edit xorg.conf and restart X every time I want to play the game, and then edit xorg.conf back, and restart X again) > > Is it possible to use (or emulate?) 16-bit colours inside, e.g. a WINE virtual desktop? Or to use some opengl extension which would provide this effect? > > > Thanks in advance :) > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 03:59:11 -0500 > From: "natostanco" <wineforum-user at winehq.org> > Subject: [Wine] Re: steam games not working > To: wine-users at winehq.org > Message-ID: <1304413151.m2f.60363 at forum.winehq.org> > > nobody? I just installed wine, removed .wine folder first, installed steam, than downloaded tf2 and disabled gameoverlayrender and it gives me only that error. could not load library client > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 04:32:46 -0500 > From: "pieterparker17" <wineforum-user at winehq.org> > Subject: [Wine] Error in wine registry > To: wine-users at winehq.org > Message-ID: <1304415166.m2f.60364 at forum.winehq.org> > > i am importing Win XP registry file to Wine , using a command > $ regedit filename.reg > but an error occured ,which is shown below > err:winedevice:ServiceMain driver L"USBFORDEC" failed to load > > why this error is shown and how it can be eliminated ?? > Regards > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 05:05:34 -0500 > From: "oiaohm" <wineforum-user at winehq.org> > Subject: [Wine] Re: Error in wine registry > To: wine-users at winehq.org > Message-ID: <1304417134.m2f.60365 at forum.winehq.org> > > Number 1 that kind of error should not stop a reg import. > > Please try a clean wine prefix I suspect you have added something that is distrupting wine. winedevice is what is used to load copy protection drivers and any other driver wine is told to load into memory. Reports errors like that when a incompatible driver has been installed. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 12 > Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 05:15:22 -0500 > From: "pieterparker17" <wineforum-user at winehq.org> > Subject: [Wine] Re: Error in wine registry > To: wine-users at winehq.org > Message-ID: <1304417722.m2f.60366 at forum.winehq.org> > > > oiaohm wrote: >> Number 1 that kind of error should not stop a reg import. >> >> Please try a clean wine prefix I suspect you have added something that is distrupting wine. > > > what it meant by wine prefix ? i didnt use it. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 13 > Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 05:16:21 -0500 > From: "oiaohm" <wineforum-user at winehq.org> > Subject: [Wine] Re: Switching to 16-bit colour depth (from 24) - is it > possible? > To: wine-users at winehq.org > Message-ID: <1304417781.m2f.60367 at forum.winehq.org> > > Answer is kinda No. Some applications fall for Virtual desktop window option and work. But if they don't fall for it you are kinda stuffed. > > X11 has its limitations. I have not looks at xepher or other sub X11 servers. > > Basically wine does not emulate what the screen is. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 14 > Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 05:17:27 -0500 > From: "CrayonKing" <wineforum-user at winehq.org> > Subject: [Wine] Can't see list of winetricks! > To: wine-users at winehq.org > Message-ID: <1304417847.m2f.60368 at forum.winehq.org> > > Hello, I updated using the preferences and once I did, my list of winetricks disappeared. I am using Wine in OSX please help because I am getting a run time error whilst installing a program. The error reads Cannot Import dll:C\windiws\temp\is-19038.tmp\isskinu.dll I want to see if I can find a wine trick to Get rid of this error message. PLEASE thanks. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 15 > Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 05:18:32 -0500 > From: "CrayonKing" <wineforum-user at winehq.org> > Subject: [Wine] Re: Can't see list of winetricks! > To: wine-users at winehq.org > Message-ID: <1304417912.m2f.60369 at forum.winehq.org> > > sorry ....C\windOws\..... > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > wine-users mailing list > wine-users at winehq.org > http://www.winehq.org/mailman/listinfo/wine-users > > > End of wine-users Digest, Vol 70, Issue 9 > *****************************************
Jake thomas before someone wants to really ban you. Please don't quote the digest in your emails. I thought the first 1 was a typo. Twice in a row kinda suggests you have not noticed what you have done. 3 times+ we will no longer like you and will have to consider banning you from email. This email can be accessed the way I do through the forum.winehq.org so blocking you email from being able to send if it will prevent this issue is not above consideration. Since there is another way to access.
Hey, sorry about quoting the whole thread of the day on those incidences. Those were accidents. I'm very new to the WINE mailing list (this is about my 4th reply ever), and I was replying from my iPhone. Yeah, an iPhone. That made it a little tricky. I know better now. I do have to say it was confusing at first to figure out how to reply to only one message within a thread. After all, the whole thing is one e-mail. If you hit reply, your e-mail program/ website that you go to for e-mail (at least mine) sets your reply up as though you are replying to the whole e-mail (as in, the whole thread of the day). Then you have to go in and manually rename your subject to not be referring to the whole e-mail, but rather to an individual message. THEN you have to go in and manually delete everything it automatically copied into the body (which would be the entire thread of the day). It copies what you are replying too - just like it does when you reply to any e-mail. So this looks like how it's done: 1. Make new e-mail message. 2. Address it to wine-users at winehq.org 3. Copy and Paste title of individual message (within a WINE e-mail) you are replying to - make this your e-mail "subject," and add "Re:" to the beginning if not already present. 4. Copy and paste relevant stuff into the body of your reply (if any). 5. Say what you have to say in the body. 6. Send it. That's the best way I can figure out. Anybody know a better way? This is the beginning of a beautiful friendship! And yes, there is a difference...apparently in the way you reply too. Cheers, Jake -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-users/attachments/20110505/a413a4fb/attachment.htm>
jjmckenzie wrote:> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 4:32 PM, oiaohm > I won't ban him, nor do I think the other admins. However there is a > warning at the top of the message that states: >I said 3 times+. jimckenzie because trouble makers don't need to know what the real limit is. 3 days of it + would be more correct but 3 times + normally gets better attention from person making mistake(Yes I am despicable). Since its a person who does not learn from their mistake. When informed and it gives them time to see the message back about their mistake. Jake Thomas no one is going to hate you over this long term. All of US have something foolish. The odd stuff up here and there will be ignored. Its just when it on going over and over again comes really annoying and gets people hating you. So new phone email to blame. I have to remember that one. Could get me into trouble as well at some point. I know I should not. But its lucky you are not on a WP7 phone without cut and paste. The process is a lot worse.