wine users - May 2010 - Now you can go crazy; Steam and Source natively for Linux

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=valve_steam_announcement&num=1

I will be very interested in any tie-ins with Wine for win32 games.

Thank you very much for this news. I'm exhilerated to see this coming to
Linux!

As for Wine tie-ins though; seems like Valve is already porting the most
important games (like the steam engine) to Linux. A Wine tie-in and possible
further support from Valve for said Wine games would be very nice, though.

DL wrote:
> I'd probably prefer they didn't integrate wine, to be honest. I
love the wine project but I'd rather they force publishers to release linux
native games instead.
Naturally. But with the large amount of (DirectX) games already offered on
Steam, it is unrealistic to think none of them will need Wine. And, as you said,
we'll have a lot more testers, making Wine much better as a whole. :)

Martin Gregorie wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-05-13 at 13:06 -0500, Blackwolf454 wrote:
> 
> > eps wrote:
> > 
> > > On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 12:01 AM, Blackwolf454
> > > <wineforum-user at winehq.org> wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > What I'm starting to see is people see that Linux is
being used quite a bit. I think more and more into the future we will have a lot
of games coming to Linux. If that happens windows is going to have to find a way
to get better and have it a little bit more open then it is now.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > I thought this half a decade ago.  Don't count your chickens
before they hatch.
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > This is different then a half decade ago just because of the internet.
> > 
> > 
> What do you mean? The Internet was alive and well, thank you, in 1994. 
> That was the year that the first commercial spam was sent by the legal
> firm of Siegel & Siegel, advertising Green Card immigration services.
> The first widely used web browser, Mosaic, came out in 1993 and the
> first version of MSIE in 1995.
> 
> It seems to me that you're at least a decade behind the times.
> 
> Martin

I was there for of that just now the Internet is huge and the Linux community is
a lot bigger now. Plus Valve is working on Half-life 2 Counter-Strike to work
with Linux thats just a sign that it's coming

-----Original Message-----
>From: Blackwolf454 <wineforum-user at winehq.org>
>Sent: May 13, 2010 1:38 PM
>To: wine-users at winehq.org
>Subject: [Wine]  Re: Now you can go crazy;	Steam and Source natively for
Linux
>
>
>I was there for of that just now the Internet is huge and the Linux
community is a lot bigger
>now. Plus Valve is working on Half-life 2 Counter-Strike to work with Linux
thats just a sign
>that it's coming
>
>
The real sign that Linux has arrived is when there are Linux-only full graphic
games.  These exist for the Mac (Aspyr Games is a Mac house.)  The good part is
that this appears to be starting.

Also, when folks start adopting Linux as their desktop solution, en masse, then
the Windows blockade will start to shatter.  That, unfortunately, depends on
reliable programs being constructed for it.  This is also happening, no matter
what others may say.  OpenOffice.org has come a long way with Microsoft Office
and other office product compatibility.  Sure there are features that need work
(in some cases a lot of work) but the returned value is minimal.  This means
that Sun/Oracle are not going to supply the solution and it is up to the
community to do so.  It would be nice of Oracle to state a direction as to what
it is going to do and fix so the remaining problems can be turned over and
worked.  This prevents use of resources (people, time and equipment) where it is
not needed.

Again, Valve appears to be moving towards a Linux native client and maybe, just
maybe Linux client games.  Only time will tell and that means we have to wait
and see.  In the meantime, Wine needs a fix so that Steam will run again on it.

James McKenzie
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>
>

On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 1:57 PM, James Mckenzie
<jjmckenzie51 at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> Again, Valve appears to be moving towards a Linux native client and maybe,
just maybe Linux client games. ?Only time will tell and that means we have to
wait and see. ?In the meantime, Wine needs a fix so that Steam will run again on
it.
>
Wine works perfectly with Steam.  Compiling in one patch for shopping
makes Steam a Platinum application.

I agree, but if the Linux version on Steam could run with the same performances
than on Windows, it should be better :)

According to this Phoronix Article (see ->
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=steam_confirmation&num=1),
it really seems that they are porting the engine to linux.

When I first saw this topic, I thought "oh, better WINE support for
Steam?"
I am really glad that Valve is doing this step; As mentioned in the previous
posts: Most Windows users stick to their OS because of the games only. But since
Steam and many games offered by Steam (and that are a lot!) are very popular,
some pc gamers might consider to change to linux -> exactly the boost we
need!

Edward Savage wrote:
> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 1:57 PM, James Mckenzie
> <jjmckenzie51 at earthlink.net> wrote:
>   
>> Again, Valve appears to be moving towards a Linux native client and
maybe, just maybe Linux client games.  Only time will tell and that means we
have to wait and see.  In the meantime, Wine needs a fix so that Steam will run
again on it.
>>
>>     
>
> Wine works perfectly with Steam.  Compiling in one patch for shopping
> makes Steam a Platinum application.
>
>   
If you have to patch Wine, the program affected is NOT Platinum until, 
and only until, that patch is accepted and integrated into the Wine Code 
base.  At best, it is Gold.

Platinum:  All features work, without any modifications (patches and 
native dlls) when installed using the Windows installer.
Gold:  All features work, but Wine has to be modified (patches and/or 
native dlls)

James McKenzie

My deal is Linux plays it's games better then Windows plays their games.  I
wonder if game companys are starting to notice that