wine users - Nov 2008 - This diff needs fixing.

It is just me or is the entire Wine AppDB screwed up?
Why is it that people complain when no-cd fixes are used when a programs is
rated platinum, yet when you need to set and use native dll's it's okay?

It's either one or the other, for example why is MS Office 2007 rated
platinum for? You need native dll's and not wines versions to run it, yet in
games that use secu-rom or other copy protections that are not implemented in
WINE the highest it can achieve is a gold rating, because it requares a fixed
exe both need extra files therefore both should be rated GOLD.

It's almost has if the rating system is controlled by favoritism.

On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 1:36 PM, telek <wineforum-user at winehq.org>
wrote:
> It is just me or is the entire Wine AppDB screwed up?
> Why is it that people complain when no-cd fixes are used when a programs is
rated platinum, yet when you need to set and use native dll's it's okay?
>
> It's either one or the other, for example why is MS Office 2007 rated
platinum for? You need native dll's and not wines versions to run it, yet in
games that use secu-rom or other copy protections that are not implemented in
WINE the highest it can achieve is a gold rating, because it requares a fixed
exe both need extra files therefore both should be rated GOLD.
>
> It's almost has if the rating system is controlled by favoritism.
>
The ratings are done by users, not admins, so they vary widely. Admins
are supposed to/should check them, but there are only a few of us to
do so.

-- 
-Austin

telek wrote:
> It is just me or is the entire Wine AppDB screwed up?
> Why is it that people complain when no-cd fixes are used when a programs is
rated platinum, yet when you need to set and use native dll's it's okay?

If it needs native dlls, the rating should not be platinum. You are right, there
are many apps incorrectly rated platinum in the AppDB. Some of this is from
people ignoring ratings definitions, and some of it is from people conducting
limited tests and getting "platinum" results for the few things they
tested.

> It's either one or the other, for example why is MS Office 2007 rated
platinum for? You need native dll's and not wines versions to run it,

The AppDB entries for Office (all versions) are intended for the installer only.
Office 2007 does not need any overrides to install in recent versions of Wine.

As far as running the programs, there are separate AppDB entries for the
individual apps included in Office.  I don't think any are rated platinum.

Unfortunately, many people have ignored the "installer only"
specification in reporting test results for Office. Complicating things even
further is the fact that there are multiple "editions" (Basic, Pro,
etc.) of Office within each major version, and few people have bothered to
report which edition they tested. The result, I agree, is a confusing mess. I
recently signed on as a super maintainer for Office precisely to try to
straighten some of that out. Suggestions are welcome.

I don't see any favoritism in the AppDB; I do see a lot of inconsistency.
That is inevitable; ratings are ultimately subjective.