wine users - Mar 2003 - DLL not loading, msjava.dll, Encyclopedia Britannica

Hi,

excuse me if my problem is something obvious, but I'm lost and couldn't
find
any useful information (is there a search function for the list archive?). Im 
new to Wine (and only recently switched to Linux).

Problem:
I'm trying to run the Britannica Encyclopedia 2000 (BCD2000), but when I
start
it I get the error message (in a popup window) "Unable to start the 
application - Java virtual machine not found".

As far as I could figure out, the JVM included on the CD  was correctly 
installed in /wine-c/windows/system/Msjava.dll  (/wine-c is my virtual 
C-Drive). So somehow it doesn't seem to find it.

I tried to start wine  with debugmessages:
   wine --debugmsg +loaddll BCD2000.exe
gives messages that a number of builtin dlls have been loaded, but no mention 
of msjava.dll. When I try
   wine --dll msjava=n --debugmsg +loaddll BCD2000.exe
Exactly the same - no msjava.dll appears in the message (shouldn't this load
msjava.dll from windows/system in any case?). 

Other debugmessages (fixme, err) don't give any errors at all. 

I also tried to include an entry 
"msjava" = "native"
in the config file, but no result.

I'm using Wine 20030219 on Redhat 8.0. Winecheck gives no errors (except for
floppy and CD not present). I have no native Windows installed. The Setup 
program for the Encyclopedia Britannica worked smoothly and installed the 
program in /wine-c/Program Files/Britannica/BCD

Relevant sections in my ~home/.wine/config:
[Drive C]
"Path" = "/wine-c"
"Type" = "hd"
"Label" = "MS-DOS"
"Filesystem" = "win95"
(...)
[wine]
"Windows" = "c:\\windows"
"System" = "c:\\windows\\system"
"Temp" = "e:\\"
"Path" =
"c:\\windows;c:\\windows\\system;e:\\;e:\\test;f:\\"
(...)
[DllOverrides]
(... a nomber of dlls ...)
"*" = "builtin, native"

I have no idea what to do - do I have to set the path to the dll somewhere, or 
does the msjava.dll not work at all (why don't I get an error)? Or is the 
"Java not found" message about somethin completely different?

I don't know if anything else in my wine installation might be wrong. The 
installation seemed to go without problems. I don't have other Windows 
programs to try, only winmine (included in wine), and WinEdt - both seem to 
work ok.
 
Any help appreciated. Thanks in advance!

All the best
Stephan

Stephan Matthiesen
Institute for Meteorology, University of Edinburgh
http://www.met.ed.ac.uk/~stephan

please read http://www.winehq.com/docs/wine-user/bugs.shtml
and report full output from 'wine --debugmsg +loaddll BCD2000 2>&1
|tee
somelogfile'

not that the JVM isnt a single file at all...
 --- Stephan Matthiesen <stephan@met.ed.ac.uk> a ?crit : >
Hi,
> 
> excuse me if my problem is something obvious, but I'm lost and
> couldn't find 
> any useful information (is there a search function for the list
> archive?). Im 
> new to Wine (and only recently switched to Linux).
> 
> Problem:
> I'm trying to run the Britannica Encyclopedia 2000 (BCD2000), but
> when I start 
> it I get the error message (in a popup window) "Unable to start the 
> application - Java virtual machine not found".
> 
> As far as I could figure out, the JVM included on the CD  was
> correctly 
> installed in /wine-c/windows/system/Msjava.dll  (/wine-c is my
> virtual 
> C-Drive). So somehow it doesn't seem to find it.
> 
> I tried to start wine  with debugmessages:
>    wine --debugmsg +loaddll BCD2000.exe
> gives messages that a number of builtin dlls have been loaded, but no
> mention 
> of msjava.dll. When I try
>    wine --dll msjava=n --debugmsg +loaddll BCD2000.exe
> Exactly the same - no msjava.dll appears in the message (shouldn't
> this load 
> msjava.dll from windows/system in any case?). 
> 
> Other debugmessages (fixme, err) don't give any errors at all. 
> 
> I also tried to include an entry 
> "msjava" = "native"
> in the config file, but no result.
> 
> I'm using Wine 20030219 on Redhat 8.0. Winecheck gives no errors
> (except for 
> floppy and CD not present). I have no native Windows installed. The
> Setup 
> program for the Encyclopedia Britannica worked smoothly and installed
> the 
> program in /wine-c/Program Files/Britannica/BCD
> 
> Relevant sections in my ~home/.wine/config:
> [Drive C]
> "Path" = "/wine-c"
> "Type" = "hd"
> "Label" = "MS-DOS"
> "Filesystem" = "win95"
> (...)
> [wine]
> "Windows" = "c:\\windows"
> "System" = "c:\\windows\\system"
> "Temp" = "e:\\"
> "Path" =
"c:\\windows;c:\\windows\\system;e:\\;e:\\test;f:\\"
> (...)
> [DllOverrides]
> (... a nomber of dlls ...)
> "*" = "builtin, native"
> 
> I have no idea what to do - do I have to set the path to the dll
> somewhere, or 
> does the msjava.dll not work at all (why don't I get an error)? Or is
> the 
> "Java not found" message about somethin completely different?
> 
> I don't know if anything else in my wine installation might be wrong.
> The 
> installation seemed to go without problems. I don't have other
> Windows 
> programs to try, only winmine (included in wine), and WinEdt - both
> seem to 
> work ok.
>  
> Any help appreciated. Thanks in advance!
> 
> All the best
> Stephan
> 
> Stephan Matthiesen
> Institute for Meteorology, University of Edinburgh
> http://www.met.ed.ac.uk/~stephan
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On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, Stephan Matthiesen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> excuse me if my problem is something obvious, but I'm lost and
couldn't find
> any useful information (is there a search function for the list archive?).
Im
> new to Wine (and only recently switched to Linux).
>
> Problem:
> I'm trying to run the Britannica Encyclopedia 2000 (BCD2000), but when
I start
> it I get the error message (in a popup window) "Unable to start the
> application - Java virtual machine not found".
>
> As far as I could figure out, the JVM included on the CD  was correctly
> installed in /wine-c/windows/system/Msjava.dll  (/wine-c is my virtual
> C-Drive). So somehow it doesn't seem to find it.
At a guess, it doesn't look for it by loading it or importing anything
from it, that is, I guess the JVM would be a service and would have to
be run somehow, maybe with rundll32?
>
I'd try running "rundll32 msjava.dll" then try your app.  It might
not
work, but where's the harm?
> I tried to start wine  with debugmessages:
>    wine --debugmsg +loaddll BCD2000.exe
> gives messages that a number of builtin dlls have been loaded, but no
mention
> of msjava.dll. When I try
>    wine --dll msjava=n --debugmsg +loaddll BCD2000.exe
> Exactly the same - no msjava.dll appears in the message (shouldn't this
load
> msjava.dll from windows/system in any case?).
>
Only if something asks for it.
> Other debugmessages (fixme, err) don't give any errors at all.
>
> I also tried to include an entry
> "msjava" = "native"
> in the config file, but no result.
>
There is no builtin for it, so wine will take the second choice from
"*" = "builtin, native"

> I'm using Wine 20030219 on Redhat 8.0. Winecheck gives no errors
(except for
> floppy and CD not present). I have no native Windows installed. The Setup
> program for the Encyclopedia Britannica worked smoothly and installed the
> program in /wine-c/Program Files/Britannica/BCD
>
> Relevant sections in my ~home/.wine/config:
You mean ~/.wine/config, AKA $HOME/.wine/config, isn't it?

....
>
> Any help appreciated. Thanks in advance!
>
> All the best
> Stephan
>
> Stephan Matthiesen
> Institute for Meteorology, University of Edinburgh
> http://www.met.ed.ac.uk/~stephan
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>I'm trying to run the Britannica Encyclopedia 2000 (BCD2000), but when I
start
>it I get the error message (in a popup window) "Unable to start the 
>application - Java virtual machine not found".
>  wine --debugmsg +loaddll BCD2000.exe
>gives messages that a number of builtin dlls have been loaded, but no
mention
>of msjava.dll.
Maybe it can't load it because it can't load something else it needs for
this dll.
You could try trace +file to see any file operations and look it any fails.

bye  Fabi