Apologies if this is a bit of a commercial post (I've not been lurking long), but you might like to know that the world's most listened-to online radio station has just launched an Ogg stream. (As of today!) http://www.virginradio.co.uk/thestation/listen/ogg.html (or alternatively www.virginradio.co.uk/thestation/listen from a non MSIE+PC browser). Any ideas you have to help promote this stream would be very much appreciated; we're a strong believer of Ogg here at Virgin Radio, and we'd like to push it as much as we can. Oh, and do come long and listen. Do feel free to reply off-list, or on-list, I'll be lurking for a while here. -- James Cridland, Managing Editor, Virgin Radio New Media Better music, more of it: http://www.virginradio.co.uk/ No 1 Golden Square, London W1F 9DJ - Tel 020 7434 1215 VIRGIN RADIO IS THE MOST LISTENED-TO ONLINE RADIO STATION IN THE WORLD! (Arbitron Mar 24-30 2003) Views expressed herein are personal, form no part of any contract, and may not be the views of Virgin Radio Ltd or SMG plc. Disclosure, copying or distribution of this message, including posting to Usenet or web forums, is forbidden without permission. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
what server and broadcasting software do you use? ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Cridland" <james.cridland@virginradio.co.uk> To: <vorbis@xiph.org> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 7:11 AM Subject: [vorbis] Virgin Radio launches an Ogg stream <p>> Apologies if this is a bit of a commercial post (I've not been lurking> long), but you might like to know that the world's most listened-to online > radio station has just launched an Ogg stream. (As of today!) > http://www.virginradio.co.uk/thestation/listen/ogg.html > (or alternatively www.virginradio.co.uk/thestation/listen from a nonMSIE+PC> browser). > > Any ideas you have to help promote this stream would be very much > appreciated; we're a strong believer of Ogg here at Virgin Radio, and we'd > like to push it as much as we can. > > Oh, and do come long and listen. > > Do feel free to reply off-list, or on-list, I'll be lurking for a while > here. > > -- > James Cridland, Managing Editor, Virgin Radio New Media > Better music, more of it: http://www.virginradio.co.uk/ > No 1 Golden Square, London W1F 9DJ - Tel 020 7434 1215 > > VIRGIN RADIO IS THE MOST LISTENED-TO ONLINE RADIO STATION IN THE WORLD! > (Arbitron Mar 24-30 2003) > > Views expressed herein are personal, form no part of any contract, and may > not be the views of Virgin Radio Ltd or SMG plc. Disclosure, copying or > distribution of this message, including posting to Usenet or web forums,is> forbidden without permission. > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 03:11:25PM +0100, James Cridland wrote:> Apologies if this is a bit of a commercial post (I've not been lurking > long), but you might like to know that the world's most listened-to online > radio station has just launched an Ogg stream. (As of today!) > http://www.virginradio.co.uk/thestation/listen/ogg.html > (or alternatively www.virginradio.co.uk/thestation/listen from a non MSIE+PC > browser).It's encoded as stereo, but fed with a mono signal. Virgin's not my cup of tea. I'm still waiting for the BBC to resume Vorbis streaming.> Do feel free to reply off-list, or on-list, I'll be lurking for a while > here.James Cridland... rings a bell... you didn't frequent FIDONET in the early 1990s, did you? -- Paul Martin <pm@zetnet.net> (work) <pm@nowster.zetnet.co.uk> (home) --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
>Paul Martin [mailto:pm@nowster.zetnet.co.uk] >It's encoded as stereo, but fed with a mono signal.Yes, we're trying to find out why. It's fed with a stereo signal, but something is going mono somewhere in the box. We'll test a few things later.>James Cridland... rings a bell... you didn't frequent FIDONET in >the early 1990s, did you?Yep. That was a long time ago! <p>>hank [mailto:hanksmith4@attbi.com]>what server and broadcasting software do you use?Icecast2, I believe. <p>>Kasper Souren [mailto:Kasper.Souren@ircam.fr]>AFAIK, I never listened to Virgin Radio, but this ogg stream is great for >the general acceptation of Ogg.Indeed. We were the first radio station in Europe to broadcast online, so we think we can be first again with Ogg.>"This page is customised for Linux users. Send us feedback if you're usinga>different browser or operating system, so we can customise this page for >you." and a bit higher: "Windows Media Player"...Yep - Crossover lets you use Windows Media Player, which is why the links are still there.>Then I clicked Ogg b/band and I must say, it works. And thus I've listeningto>commercials the last 3 minutes... :(They pay our wages, but you caught us at a bad time. I've not heard any for twenty minutes as I type. <p> -- James Cridland, Managing Editor, Virgin Radio New Media Better music, more of it: http://www.virginradio.co.uk/ No 1 Golden Square, London W1F 9DJ - Tel 020 7434 1215 VIRGIN RADIO IS THE MOST LISTENED-TO ONLINE RADIO STATION IN THE WORLD! (Arbitron Mar 24-30 2003) Views expressed herein are personal, form no part of any contract, and may not be the views of Virgin Radio Ltd or SMG plc. Disclosure, copying or distribution of this message, including posting to Usenet or web forums, is forbidden without permission. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
Monday, June 16, 2003, 15:11, you wrote:> Any ideas you have to help promote this stream would be very much > appreciated; we're a strong believer of Ogg here at Virgin Radio, and we'd > like to push it as much as we can.>From the page:>What do I need to listen to Ogg? If you're a Windows user, download >Winamp, which copes with Ogg.You may want to mention that Winamp 3 currently doesn't handle Ogg streams properly, and direct users to Winamp 2. <p>Headless --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
At 09:11 AM 6/16/2003, you wrote:>Any ideas you have to help promote this stream would be very much >appreciated<p>I just submitted a story to Slashdot. If they pick it up you may get more traffic than you were expecting. :-) On the other hand, they've never accepted one of my stories before, so don't count on anything. -- Tony Hursh, awh@acm.org OggCarton Home Jukebox, http://oggcarton.sourceforge.net --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
Monday, June 16, 2003, 15:11, you wrote:> Any ideas you have to help promote this stream would be very much > appreciated; we're a strong believer of Ogg here at Virgin Radio, and we'd > like to push it as much as we can.>From the page:> Virgin Radio already broadcasts in Real, Windows and MP3. Why yet > another format? Virgin Radio want to make our radio station > available to as many people as possible, to help them trial our > station and get them listening longer. By adding an Ogg stream, we > now add more potential listeners to our service.It might help if you also mentioned that the sound quality of Ogg is significantly better than MP3 (assuming that you use regular MP3, not MP3Pro), especially at 32kbps. The quality difference with WMA (=>V8) is less pronounced, but still noticably better imo. I have no experience with Real, but it would surprise me if it is able to match the quality produced by Ogg (V1). I would also recommend leaving the 32kbps stream mono, this produces a quite adequate quality in my experience (for Netradio), a 32kbps stereo stream is likely to sound poor'ish. Stereo with the 96kbps stream should work fine. <p>Headless --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
The 96kb/s stream averages between 70 and 85kb/s and sounds great, crystal clear. Ross. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
Glad you like it, Ross: it'll be even better when we've made it stereo. J (Sorry for the top-posting: this Blackberry doesn't do anything else) -----Original Message----- From: Ross Levis <ross.levis@cchlawbase.co.nz> To: vorbis@xiph.org <vorbis@xiph.org> Sent: Tue Jun 17 00:17:33 2003 Subject: RE: [vorbis] Virgin Radio launches an Ogg stream The 96kb/s stream averages between 70 and 85kb/s and sounds great, crystal clear. Ross. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
> Glad you like it, Ross: it'll be even better when we've made it stereo.It's now stereo. Sounds brilliant! We can't make the low-bitrate one mono, because darkice isn't letting us, incidentally - any clues? -- James Cridland, Managing Editor, Virgin Radio New Media Better music, more of it: http://www.virginradio.co.uk/ No 1 Golden Square, London W1F 9DJ - Tel 020 7434 1215 VIRGIN RADIO IS THE MOST LISTENED-TO ONLINE RADIO STATION IN THE WORLD! (Arbitron Mar 24-30 2003) Views expressed herein are personal, form no part of any contract, and may not be the views of Virgin Radio Ltd or SMG plc. Disclosure, copying or distribution of this message, including posting to Usenet or web forums, is forbidden without permission. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
I can't seem to find a link to the Ogg Vorbis info page(http://www.virginradio.co.uk/thestation/listen/ogg.html) anywhere on Virgin Radio's site. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
It's on the front page at present - in "Latest news". It'll be linked from our "Listen now" page shortly. -- James Cridland, Managing Editor, Virgin Radio New Media Better music, more of it: http://www.virginradio.co.uk/ No 1 Golden Square, London W1F 9DJ - Tel 020 7434 1215 VIRGIN RADIO IS THE MOST LISTENED-TO ONLINE RADIO STATION IN THE WORLD! (Arbitron Mar 24-30 2003) Views expressed herein are personal, form no part of any contract, and may not be the views of Virgin Radio Ltd or SMG plc. Disclosure, copying or distribution of this message, including posting to Usenet or web forums, is forbidden without permission. <p>-----Original Message----- From: Tyler Knott [mailto:vault-responce@charter.net] Sent: 17 June 2003 16:33 To: vorbis@xiph.org Subject: Re: [vorbis] Virgin Radio launches an Ogg stream <p>I can't seem to find a link to the Ogg Vorbis info page(http://www.virginradio.co.uk/thestation/listen/ogg.html) anywhere on Virgin Radio's site. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
> It's now stereo. Sounds brilliant!Yes noticed that today. The average bitrate has increased to between 85 & 105. I'm a bit disappointed in the quality of the 32kb/s stream but that may be because it's in stereo. The 32kb/s RealMedia stream sounds much crisper. http://www.smgradio.com/core/audio/real/live.smi?service=vc&source=playe r Ross. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
We are having a few techie issues with making our streams available to the directories like that: we are aware of the problem, though. J (Blackberries top-post, sorry) <p>-----Original Message----- From: oddsock <oddsock@oddsock.org> To: vorbis@xiph.org <vorbis@xiph.org> Sent: Tue Jun 17 22:21:04 2003 Subject: Re: [vorbis] Virgin Radio launches an Ogg stream FWIW, there is a list of vorbis streams at http://www.oddsock.org/icecast2yp .....Virgin is not listed there, although I'd certainly encourage them to do so.... :) oddsock At 04:45 PM 6/17/2003 -0400, you wrote:>WOW! I just listened to the Virgin Radio Ogg Vorbis 96K stream. It's >currently hard to find high-quality stereo Vorbis streams right now. This >is the best sound quality for an internet radio station I have EVER heard! >Most high-quality stations broadcast at 128K mp3, which to me sounds just >about like FM. I have to say this is much, much better, and even uses >less of my incoming bandwidth. Thanks for the Vorbis. > >Lorenzo >-- >Personally, I think my choice in the mostest-superlative-computer wars hasto>be the HP-48 series of calculators. They'll run almost anything. And ifthey>can't, while I'll just plug a Linux box into the serial port and load upthe>HP-48 VT-100 emulator. >(By jdege@winternet.com, Jeff Dege) > >--- >8 ---- >List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ >Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ >To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' >containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. >Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.<p>--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
In fact, our Real stream -is- the standard one. It's a Real 8 Surestream, from 8k to 32k, in mono. Our Real streams will have increased sound quality, due to a better soundcard system, shortly. J <p><p>-----Original Message----- From: Christian Buchner <Christian.Buchner1@epost.de> To: vorbis@xiph.org <vorbis@xiph.org> Sent: Wed Jun 18 03:39:23 2003 Subject: RE: [vorbis] Virgin Radio launches an Ogg stream <p>> I'm a bit disappointed in the quality of the 32kb/s stream but that may> be because it's in stereo. The 32kb/s RealMedia stream sounds much > crisper. > http://www.smgradio.com/core/audio/real/live.smi?service=vc&source=playerFor me this downloaded a codec called "Dolby NET". This is not your standard Real Audio stream. ;) Sounds acceptable for 32 kbit/s. Lot of flanging in the high frequencies. <p>--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
In this mail, Lawrence, you're talking about our audio processing. I would quote the relevant paragraph, but when they built Blackberrys, they didn't allow us to edit the quote that appears underneath, unwittingly meaning that all Blackberry users look like top-posting newbies. It may interest the group to know that we -do- process our online audio streams, but they are processed with a dedicated sound processor that gets the most out of audio online. There is a fair bit of dynamic compression going on there, but emphasising different frequency ranges than FM or AM.>From the online processor (it's a standard processor, with settings producedprimarily for our lower bandwidth feeds), it then gets mono'd for some of boxes (in particular, the Real encoder we use has trouble creating a proper mono signal). The Ogg encoder is using a soundcard that we plan to roll out to all our other services - a proper professional soundcard with decent balanced audio inputs. Many of our other services are using domestic soundcards. I too agree that our 96k Ogg stream sounds really good. I put it down, in part, to the processing we're giving it, and in part to the new soundcards. It ought to be noted that it could sound even better: the audio level going into this card is a little lower than it could be, because some of the domestic soundcards demanded a lower input level. We will be able to turn up the wick a little, and thus get the encoder working even more efficiently, once those cards are out of the system: for Virgin Radio's main service, this is scheduled to be within the next few weeks. Finally, from my experience, most other stations actually encode their signal from their off-air feed, with a tuner - in most stations, IT and Engineering don't have the happy co-existence that we have here. A signal processed for FM, then transmitted (complete with the stereo enhancement most FM stations run), then re-encoded off a cheap tuner, is not going to make your audio sound any good online. I believe our broadband stream is a great example of streaming Ogg Vorbis, and any help any mailing-list readers could give us in shouting about it would be very well received: whether on /., or in some of the more mainstream media. I am available for interview (and funnily enough, today the photographer's in to take a better shot than the one of me that appears on page 44 of Internet Works here in the UK where I look about ten.) I hope all that helps. This e-mail is coming to you from the London tube - the Piccadilly Line - where it is currently very hot, very crowded, and unusually nobody else is tapping away on anything electronic at all. Other exciting things happening here include lots of people reading books, lots of people reading the free newspaper, someone over there with a Sony minidisc, and a man sitting next to me who looks as if he's just slipped through a timewarp from the 1940s. -- James Cridland, Managing Editor, Virgin Radio New Media Better music, more of it: http://www.virginradio.co.uk/ Add us to your website: http://www.virginradio.co.uk/linktous This message is personal, forms no part of a contract, and may not reflect the views of Virgin Radio or SMG plc. Please do not forward this message or post it onto newsgroups or messageboard without permission. <p><p><p><p><p><p>-----Original Message----- From: Lawrence Wade <vorbis@glowingplate.com> To: vorbis@xiph.org <vorbis@xiph.org> Sent: Wed Jun 18 00:24:43 2003 Subject: Re: [vorbis] Virgin Radio launches an Ogg stream At 04:45 PM 6/17/2003 -0400, you wrote:>WOW! I just listened to the Virgin Radio Ogg Vorbis 96K stream. It's >currently hard to find high-quality stereo Vorbis streams right now. This >is the best sound quality for an internet radio station I have EVER heard! >Most high-quality stations broadcast at 128K mp3, which to me sounds just >about like FM. I have to say this is much, much better, and even uses >less of my incoming bandwidth. Thanks for the Vorbis.I was impressed with the sound quality too, but I wonder if that's the reason - flattering as it is to Vorbis, even 128kbps MP3 doesn't sound as bad as most Internet radio stations. We have to expect a moderate increase in fidelity for a given bitrate, but I doubt it will be as extreme as that. Certainly Ogg vs. MP3 at comparable bitrates isn't *that* extreme in my experience, let alone for 96kbps vs. 128kbps. (I use Ogg mostly because I can have the sound quality of a 192kbps MP3 with somewhat less size than a 160kbps MP3. When you're dealing in gigabytes of music, it makes a difference.) FM radio is highly compressed, AM even more so. Not compressed in terms of small data rates, compressed in terms of the dynamic range - this because of the comparatively high noise floor of radio as a medium. Not to mention the FCC doesn't like it much when you clip the modulator... I suspect the reason is that they're taking the output to the Internet "transmitter" before the compressor, while most radio stations with an Internet feed just put it in parallel, taking a sniff of the compressed output heading to the radio transmitter. Lawrence Wade, BOFH www.glowingplate.com <p> --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. 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James Cridland wrote:-> Apologies if this is a bit of a commercial post (I've not been lurking > long), but you might like to know that the world's most listened-to online > radio station has just launched an Ogg stream. (As of today!) > http://www.virginradio.co.uk/thestation/listen/ogg.html > (or alternatively www.virginradio.co.uk/thestation/listen from a non MSIE+PC > browser). > > Any ideas you have to help promote this stream would be very much > appreciated; we're a strong believer of Ogg here at Virgin Radio, and we'd > like to push it as much as we can. > > Oh, and do come long and listen. > > Do feel free to reply off-list, or on-list, I'll be lurking for a while > here.Any chance of adding your other streams, like Virgin Radio Classic Rock? Neil. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
Neil Booth wrote:> Any chance of adding your other streams, like Virgin Radio > Classic Rock?I was going to suggest that too (for Classic Rock) but didn't get around to it, so I 2nd that. Ross Levis ---------- Ogg Vorbis encoder/tagger - http://winvorbis.stationplaylist.com Low-cost Radio Automation - http://www.stationplaylist.com --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
Hi Neil and Ross, I can tell you that Ogg Vorbis streams for our other three services (Virgin Radio Classic Rock, The Groove and Liquid) are all on the cards, and at the moment I'm planning to have the Virgin Radio Classic Rock feed up and running before the end of July. As an aside, I'd be interested if anyone has any views on the differences between darkice and ices as the encoder. We're currently using darkice, because I have found a few places where people say it is more stable, but I'd welcome views. At the moment we are streaming two versions of our Virgin Radio Ogg service: * 96kbps 44KHz 16bit stereo * 32kbps 44KHz 16bit stereo I think that the 32kbps stream would sound better in mono, but I haven't worked out yet how to configure a single instance of the darkice encoder to send out one stereo stream and one mono stream. My plan so far has to be use the Virgin Radio Classic Rock encoder (once I have installed it) to play around with both darkice and ices a bit more (we were keen to get the VR stream up and running straight away), but if anyone has any knowledge on this mono/stereo issue they'd be willing to share I'd be grateful! Thanks David David Jones Head of IT, Virgin Radio -----Original Message----- From: Ross Levis [mailto:ross.levis@cchlawbase.co.nz] Sent: 29 June 2003 21:51 To: vorbis@xiph.org Subject: RE: [vorbis] Virgin Radio launches an Ogg stream <p>Neil Booth wrote:> Any chance of adding your other streams, like Virgin Radio > Classic Rock?I was going to suggest that too (for Classic Rock) but didn't get around to it, so I 2nd that. Ross Levis ---------- Ogg Vorbis encoder/tagger - http://winvorbis.stationplaylist.com Low-cost Radio Automation - http://www.stationplaylist.com --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.