Vorbis - Apr 2001 - OT: long - Replacing CD's? was RE: New type of copy-prot ected audio CDs are coming...

It won't be long until big labels attempt to eliminate the digital
ins and outs of equipment.  The problem they face is most people 
that currently use a rack system featuring digital interconnects will 
NEVER revert to an analog only system.  I know that I won't!

Think back to VHS, BetaMax, SVHS and LaserDisc.
VHS has incredible market share because its licensing is open.
Betamax was strangled by Sony.  SVHS and LaserDisc failed to 
reach critical mass because they offered only incremental 
improvements and were not backward compatible.

Attempts to supplant CD's with a product thas is only 
incrementally better will suffer the same fate as the above 
products - only a small number of adopters and not enough market
saturation to fully replace the old standard.

Currently DVD offers vast improvements over VHS AND it is 
backwards compatible with CD's.  It misses one feature 
consumers have grown to love though - recordablity.  This missing
piece stops the death of VHS.

as far as DataPlay info: try this link.
<http://www.digitmag.co.uk/news/display_news.cfm?NewsID=772>

I cannot imagine the RIAA embracing this device unless it eliminaties 
all possibilty of perfect digital extraction.  They will need to push for
every device to provide only analog outputs for pre-recorded media and 
prevent PC makers from incorporating it into computers (good luck!).

Myles

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On Thu, 5 Apr 2001, Myles Buckley wrote:
> Currently DVD offers vast improvements over VHS AND it is
> backwards compatible with CD's.  It misses one feature
> consumers have grown to love though - recordablity.  This missing
> piece stops the death of VHS.
I just acquired the last components for my linux-based digital VCR today.

Now I can throw my VHS deck out the window.

-Dan

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On Thu, 05 Apr 2001 22:19:37 Myles Buckley wrote:
> They will need to push for every device to provide only analog
> outputs for pre-recorded media and prevent PC makers from
> incorporating it into computers (good luck!).
Why? That 2nd part was perfectly demonstrated with the MiniDisc. I never
saw a PC drive for that one.
> Myles
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Actually, as far as I have read, the DataPlay format is what RIAA wants to
replace CD. It doesnt fit my needs - ONLY WORM, too small, and the players
look like shite.
-Rob
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From: "Myles Buckley" <myles@conexsys.net>
To: <vorbis@xiph.org>
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 4:19 PM
Subject: OT: long - Replacing CD's? was RE: [vorbis] New type of
copy-protected audio CDs are coming...
> It won't be long until big labels attempt to eliminate the digital
> ins and outs of equipment.  The problem they face is most people
> that currently use a rack system featuring digital interconnects will
> NEVER revert to an analog only system.  I know that I won't!
>
> Think back to VHS, BetaMax, SVHS and LaserDisc.
> VHS has incredible market share because its licensing is open.
> Betamax was strangled by Sony.  SVHS and LaserDisc failed to
> reach critical mass because they offered only incremental
> improvements and were not backward compatible.
>
> Attempts to supplant CD's with a product thas is only
> incrementally better will suffer the same fate as the above
> products - only a small number of adopters and not enough market
> saturation to fully replace the old standard.
>
> Currently DVD offers vast improvements over VHS AND it is
> backwards compatible with CD's.  It misses one feature
> consumers have grown to love though - recordablity.  This missing
> piece stops the death of VHS.
>
> as far as DataPlay info: try this link.
> <http://www.digitmag.co.uk/news/display_news.cfm?NewsID=772>
>
> I cannot imagine the RIAA embracing this device unless it eliminaties
> all possibilty of perfect digital extraction.  They will need to push for
> every device to provide only analog outputs for pre-recorded media and
> prevent PC makers from incorporating it into computers (good luck!).
>
> Myles
>
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