Tom Bishop
2000-Dec-11 04:29 UTC
[vorbis] Here is a link to what they say about "Other Formats"
http://mp3licensing.com/other/index.html
They list:
Atrac 3, (E)Pac, AAC
..and various patents of theirs they believe that these formats
rely on.. then basically say:
"We have not yet determined our licensing policy for this format"
Vorbis is not mentioned..
Regards,
Tom
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Dan Hollis
2000-Dec-11 04:36 UTC
[vorbis] Here is a link to what they say about "Other Formats"
On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Tom Bishop wrote:> http://mp3licensing.com/other/index.html > They list: > Atrac 3, (E)Pac, AAC > ..and various patents of theirs they believe that these formats > rely on.. then basically say: > "We have not yet determined our licensing policy for this format" > Vorbis is not mentioned.... yet -Dan --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
Robert J Lynn Jr
2000-Dec-11 14:07 UTC
[vorbis] Here is a link to what they say about "Other Formats"
ATRAC3 is Sony MD's encoding method. Unlike MP3, it is ONE HUNDRED PRECENT FRONTWARD AND BACKWARD COMPATIBLE. Totally written by Dolby. Fraunhofer can just eat their shit. If they would dare say something like that about a big company (Dear Dolby: PAY US!), they would rip Vorbis to shreds. For some reason, they think they have the patent on ATRAC. Dolby would kill them in court, but we would have trouble. Burn in hell, FhG! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Bishop" <Tom@Truly.nu> To: <vorbis@xiph.org> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 7:29 AM Subject: [vorbis] Here is a link to what they say about "Other Formats"> > http://mp3licensing.com/other/index.html > > They list: > Atrac 3, (E)Pac, AAC > > ..and various patents of theirs they believe that these formats > rely on.. then basically say: > > "We have not yet determined our licensing policy for this format" > > Vorbis is not mentioned.. > > Regards, > Tom > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. >--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
Freya
2000-Dec-12 06:28 UTC
[vorbis] Here is a link to what they say about "Other Formats"
Is Atrac3 specifically a sony format? and isn't it based on musicam? which I thought pre-dated MPEG?! Or perhaps Fraunhauser have had these patents for sometime before MPEG? I didn't know Frauhauser were part of Thompson, that surely makes things really wierd because Thompson is a huge consumer electronics company, so presumably they are part of a patent pool and were involved in the development of MPEG for all the partners to use (sony for instance) so are they now doing the dirty on people in the MPEG pool on other similar technologies? And do Thompson *really* not make any minidisk players!??? Perhaps I am confused but it all starts to sound really strange. love Freya --- Tom Bishop <Tom@Truly.nu> wrote:> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert J Lynn Jr" <rjlynn@crosswinds.net> > > > > ATRAC3 is Sony MD's encoding method. Unlike MP3, > it is ONE HUNDRED PRECENT > > FRONTWARD AND BACKWARD COMPATIBLE. Totally written > by Dolby. Fraunhofer can > > just eat their shit. If they would dare say > something like that about a big > > company (Dear Dolby: PAY US!), > > Not only dolby, but perhaps everyone using the > format also, like mp3... > ..it is up to their imagination what they finally do > with it.. > ..but their current statement is "they haven't > decided"... > > Personal opinion.. they are just a business, and > they have various > business opportunities... ..why not go for the easy > ones first.. ? > > They probably have their hands full for a while > collecting the easy > money.. and in so doing, they are funding legal fees > to go after people > that will require trial. > > > they would rip Vorbis to shreds. For some > > reason, they think they have the patent on ATRAC. > > > Not exactly, they are saying Atrac's implementation > relies on technology they hold patents on.. > ..in at least a number of countries in the world > (clearly not all). > > > <snip> > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. > No subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will beignored/filtered. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'vorbis-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.