I'm currently working on adding streaming capabilities to the WinAmp plugin and was wondering if I'm duplicating anyone else's work. Right now it's about half done. I'll be submitting the changes when it's finished (if I can figure out how to work CVS :-). Aaron Porter --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/
Actually, we are currently working on adding streaming capability, not only to icecast, but since we maintain all the player plugins right now (or the majority of the most popular ones) we'll be doing those changes also.. not to say your work is duplicated, but rather curious considering nothing will stream >to< winamp at this point.. -=Chad=- aka icemonk chad@icecast.org On Wednesday, August 23 2000, Aaron Porter said:> I'm currently working on adding streaming capabilities to the WinAmp plugin > and was wondering if I'm duplicating anyone else's work. > > Right now it's about half done. I'll be submitting the changes when it's > finished (if I can figure out how to work CVS :-). > > Aaron Porter > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/-=C=- <HR NOSHADE> <UL> <LI>application/pgp-signature attachment: stored </UL> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: part Type: application/octet-stream Size: 233 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.xiph.org/pipermail/vorbis-dev/attachments/20000823/8dc99808/part-0001.obj
I have a plugin streaming in MP3 to Winamp and its also fully Icecast compatible (You can choose between ICY headers or x-audiocast headers) Together with the ACM driver you released a few days ago i should be able to modify only about 2 lines of code in my plugin to make it all work with Vorbis :) If you get Icecast ready to do streaming I could have this plugin ready within a day... Other aspects: - Are you guys looking at "imbedded scripting commands" like windows media currently has? - Will meta data streaming occur on the same port as the audio, or on a different port? - Can we sync meta data with the audio? Louis -----Original Message----- From: chad <chad@icecast.org> To: vorbis-dev@xiph.org <vorbis-dev@xiph.org> Date: 23 Augustus 2000 08:44 Subject: Re: [vorbis-dev] WinAmp Streaming Actually, we are currently working on adding streaming capability, not only to icecast, but since we maintain all the player plugins right now (or the majority of the most popular ones) we'll be doing those changes also.. not to say your work is duplicated, but rather curious considering nothing will stream >to< winamp at this point.. -=Chad=- aka icemonk chad@icecast.org On Wednesday, August 23 2000, Aaron Porter said:> I'm currently working on adding streaming capabilities to the WinAmpplugin> and was wondering if I'm duplicating anyone else's work. > > Right now it's about half done. I'll be submitting the changes when it's > finished (if I can figure out how to work CVS :-). > > Aaron Porter > > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/-=C=- --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/
create your own extension! ogg://server:port Hmmm....wonder what that will do in the browser - but its certainly a solution for Winamp Louis -----Original Message----- From: Jack Moffitt <jack@icecast.org> To: vorbis-dev@xiph.org <vorbis-dev@xiph.org> Date: 24 Augustus 2000 12:48 Subject: Re: [vorbis-dev] WinAmp Streaming>so the thing I don't get, is how you get past the default mp3 plugin, >since it captures anything with 'http://' at the beginning.... > >jack. > >On Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 02:52:20PM -0600, Aaron Porter wrote: >> I'm streaming via HTTP, just like the MP3 plugin. Then I just have to add >> "application/x-ogg" to the MIME types on my web server and we're ready to >> go. >> >> How close are you to completing the plugins? Are you not planning to use >> HTTP? >> >> Thanks, >> Aaron >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "chad" <chad@icecast.org> >> To: <vorbis-dev@xiph.org> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 12:34 PM >> Subject: Re: [vorbis-dev] WinAmp Streaming >> >> >> Actually, we are currently working on adding streaming capability, notonly>> to icecast, but since we >> maintain all the player plugins right now (or the majority of the most >> popular ones) we'll be doing >> those changes also.. not to say your work is duplicated, but rathercurious>> considering nothing will >> stream >to< winamp at this point.. >> >> -=Chad=- >> aka icemonk >> chad@icecast.org >> >> >> --- >8 ---- >> List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ >> Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ > >--- >8 ---- >List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ >Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ >--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/
Ralph Giles (giles@snow.ashlu.bc.ca) wrote :> > On Wed, 23 Aug 2000, Aaron Porter wrote: > > > Easy, use a different protocol in the URL. I'm using "ogg://". :-) > > Oh come on! WinAmp needs its broken plugin architecture fixed.It is easier to write a small plugin that to rewrite a program which sources you don't even have. On the other note , if the actual protocol is HTTP, the ogghttp:// should be more intuitive , no ? Leaves space for oggrtp: , oggftp: , etc... David Balazic --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/
Well, Winamp v3 is on the way... I heard from Tom Pepper and he said its supposed to support Vorbis... I guess nows the time to complain about the plugin architecture before its too late to change anything Louis -----Original Message----- From: Ralph Giles <giles@a3a32260.sympatico.bconnected.net> To: Aaron Porter <aaron@javasource.org> Cc: vorbis-dev@xiph.org <vorbis-dev@xiph.org> Date: 24 Augustus 2000 04:53 Subject: Re: [vorbis-dev] WinAmp Streaming>On Wed, 23 Aug 2000, Aaron Porter wrote: > >> Easy, use a different protocol in the URL. I'm using "ogg://". :-) > >Oh come on! WinAmp needs its broken plugin architecture fixed. > > -r > > > >--- >8 ---- >List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ >Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ >--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/
The Shibatch mpeg decoder for winamp has a checkbox that lets u switch between the NullSoft mp3 plugin and the Shibatch one... I guess looking at that source you will be able to see how to "disable" the Nullsoft decoder and test for http:// before passing it to the correct plugin Louis -----Original Message----- From: Aaron Porter <aaron@javasource.org> To: vorbis-dev@xiph.org <vorbis-dev@xiph.org> Date: 24 Augustus 2000 09:55 Subject: Re: [vorbis-dev] WinAmp Streaming>Gregory, >Thanks for making me stop and think about what I was doing. :-) > >I changed the plugin to accept "http://" and presto! It worked! I set upthe>vorbis plugin to test for the "application/x-ogg" content type before >responding to the "isourfile" call so now "http://" works for both vorbis >and MP3 on my machine! I'm not sure if all machines will go through the >plugins in the same order as my machine so I'm requesting people withwinamp>to try out the modified vorbis plugin. > >You can get the plugin here: >http://216.190.27.109/in_vorbis.dll > >Here's the modified source for the plugin: >http://216.190.27.109/vorbis.c > >If you want to compile the new source you'll have to link to ws2_32.lib for >the windows sockets stuff. > >Here's a site where you can find some Vorbis and MP3 URLs to test: >http://indiepopradio.com/download/ > >Please let me know if it works for you (offline). > >Thanks for all the suggestions guys! >Aaron > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Gregory Maxwell" <greg@linuxpower.cx> >To: <vorbis-dev@xiph.org> >Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 10:19 AM >Subject: Re: [vorbis-dev] WinAmp Streaming > > >> >> If you do this then correctly written software will have to support your >> hack forever and always because sites all over the Internet will use that >> format for streaming urls. >> >> Please don't. >> >> If NullSoft can't get with the program then they will just die. Winamp >> doesn't come with anyone's computer, they all downloaded it.. They can >> download something else. >> >> All good OSes will include a vorbis player capable of stream reception >> sooner or later anyways. > > > >--- >8 ---- >List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ >Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ >--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/