Some list subscribers post in HTML. In this regard, the Shorewall list seems unique -- most lists that I subscribe to flame HTML posters unmercifully whereas this list is unusually tolerent. While the list server here at shorewall.net accepts and distributes these HTML posts, a growing number of MTAs serving list subscribers are rejecting this HTML list traffic. At least one MTA has gone so far as to blacklist shorewall.net "for continuous abuse"!! I think that blocking all HTML is a rather draconian way to control spam and that the unltimate loser here is not the spammers but the list subscribers whose MTAs are bouncing all shorewall.net mail. Nevertheless, all of you can help by restricting your list posts to plain text. And as a bonus, subscribers who use email clients like pine and mutt will be able to read your plain text posts whereas they are most likely simply ignoring your HTML posts. A final bonus for the use of HTML is that it cuts down the size of messages by a large percentage -- that is important when the same message must be sent 500 times over a slow DSL line. -Tom -- Tom Eastep \ Shorewall - iptables made easy Shoreline, \ http://shorewall.sf.net Washington USA \ teastep@shorewall.net