samba - Dec 2010 - name resolution: dns name different to windows machinename

>
> --- Original message ---
> Subject: Re: [Samba] name resolution: dns name different to windows 
> machinename
> From: Gaiseric Vandal <gaiseric.vandal at gmail.com>
> To: <samba at lists.samba.org>
> Date: Monday, 20/12/2010  5:15 PM
>
> I am not sure how you would have a DNS server assign random names.  
> But if
> you aren't going to have the correct entries for the XP machine in 
> DNS, then
> you probably should not have any DNS entries for those machines.    XP
> machines can register their hostnames directly in DNS (if the DNS 
> server
> supports it.)  In general I don't think workstations machines need to 
> be in
> DNS at all since (unless you have shared folders or printers.)
It's certainly easier when a help desk request comes in to ask the 
user for the machine name label, then try and get the machines IP 
addy. rdp://acct1  rdp://lab7 rdp://eng21 rdp://admin5

soooooo

But yeah, WinXP and up have no problem doing this.  dhcp can be a big 
help as well.
>
> I general
> DISABLE dynamic updates in DNS and don't have DNS assignments/static 
> IP's
> for most XP machines.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: samba-bounces at lists.samba.org 
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> On Behalf Of Marcus
> Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 5:17 AM
> To: samba at lists.samba.org
> Subject: [Samba] name resolution: dns name different to windows 
> machine name
>
> Hi,
>
> we are running a samba domain controller as master with activated 
> WINS.
> The machine name of each WinXP client is set manually during the
> installation initial process. Each client is using the WINS server of
> our domain controller. The WinXP clients are getting their IP by a
> global DNS Server, which sets the DNS and reverse DNS entry 
> identically
> to the windos machine name.
> Now the administrator of the DNS server is planning to change the DNS
> and reverse DNS concept in the way that the DNS and reverse DNS entry
> will be not identically to the windows machine name any more. The 
> WinXP
> clients will get a generic, randomly set DNS/reverse DNS entry.
> Does this have any effects for functionality of my samba domain
> controller and/or the WinXP clients?
>
> Thanks,
> Marcus
>
>
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Hi, 
DNS is DNS and WINS is WINS. XP Machines in a Samba3 Domain with WINS will
resolve their names by WINS.
What must be exactly the same is the netbios name of your workstations( if
it is part of your dns-name). You cannot change your netbios name five times
a day without put for each name an entry in your samba db.
I think what your dns administrator will do is give each machine a dynamic
ip with exactly the same host name.



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Betreff: Re: [Samba] name resolution: dns name different to windows
machinename




>
> --- Original message ---
> Subject: Re: [Samba] name resolution: dns name different to windows 
> machinename
> From: Gaiseric Vandal <gaiseric.vandal at gmail.com>
> To: <samba at lists.samba.org>
> Date: Monday, 20/12/2010  5:15 PM
>
> I am not sure how you would have a DNS server assign random names.  
> But if
> you aren't going to have the correct entries for the XP machine in 
> DNS, then
> you probably should not have any DNS entries for those machines.    XP
> machines can register their hostnames directly in DNS (if the DNS 
> server
> supports it.)  In general I don't think workstations machines need to 
> be in
> DNS at all since (unless you have shared folders or printers.)
It's certainly easier when a help desk request comes in to ask the 
user for the machine name label, then try and get the machines IP 
addy. rdp://acct1  rdp://lab7 rdp://eng21 rdp://admin5

soooooo

But yeah, WinXP and up have no problem doing this.  dhcp can be a big 
help as well.
>
> I general
> DISABLE dynamic updates in DNS and don't have DNS assignments/static 
> IP's
> for most XP machines.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: samba-bounces at lists.samba.org 
> [mailto:samba-bounces at lists.samba.org]
> On Behalf Of Marcus
> Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 5:17 AM
> To: samba at lists.samba.org
> Subject: [Samba] name resolution: dns name different to windows 
> machine name
>
> Hi,
>
> we are running a samba domain controller as master with activated 
> WINS.
> The machine name of each WinXP client is set manually during the
> installation initial process. Each client is using the WINS server of
> our domain controller. The WinXP clients are getting their IP by a
> global DNS Server, which sets the DNS and reverse DNS entry 
> identically
> to the windos machine name.
> Now the administrator of the DNS server is planning to change the DNS
> and reverse DNS concept in the way that the DNS and reverse DNS entry
> will be not identically to the windows machine name any more. The 
> WinXP
> clients will get a generic, randomly set DNS/reverse DNS entry.
> Does this have any effects for functionality of my samba domain
> controller and/or the WinXP clients?
>
> Thanks,
> Marcus
>
>
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2010/12/20 Marcus <lists at localguru.de>:
> we are running a samba domain controller as master with activated WINS.
(snip)
>  Now the administrator of the DNS server is planning to change the DNS
> and reverse DNS concept in the way that the DNS and reverse DNS entry
> will be not identically to the windows machine name any more. The WinXP
> clients will get a generic, randomly set DNS/reverse DNS entry.
>  Does this have any effects for functionality of my samba domain
> controller and/or the WinXP clients?
Samba 3 domain is compatible with NT domain. NT domain uses only NetBIOS
name which can be resolved by WINS (or LMHOSTS or broadcast...), not DNS.

So the change of DNS settings will not affect your samba domain.

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TAKAHASHI Motonobu <monyo at samba.gr.jp>

Am Dienstag, den 21.12.2010, 19:19 +0900 schrieb TAKAHASHI
Motonobu:
> 2010/12/20 Marcus <lists at localguru.de>:
> > we are running a samba domain controller as master with activated
WINS.
> (snip)
> >  Now the administrator of the DNS server is planning to change the DNS
> > and reverse DNS concept in the way that the DNS and reverse DNS entry
> > will be not identically to the windows machine name any more. The
WinXP
> > clients will get a generic, randomly set DNS/reverse DNS entry.
> >  Does this have any effects for functionality of my samba domain
> > controller and/or the WinXP clients?
> 
> Samba 3 domain is compatible with NT domain. NT domain uses only NetBIOS
> name which can be resolved by WINS (or LMHOSTS or broadcast...), not DNS.
> 
> So the change of DNS settings will not affect your samba domain.
Thanks a lot, good news.

Ciao,
Marcus