samba - Jul 2004 - Wishlist for v4.0 Integration / Setup of samba.

Is there maybe a way to consolidate (At the developer level) all of the tools
and methods into one concise list.
 
samba is not really tightly integrated with the OS, Is there maybe a way to
re-organise the way samba works? maybe to make it completely emulate the way it
works on the windows command line?
 
 
for example make everything integrated into the net command.....
 
net use (file system mounting)
net passwd
net start,stop,restart [service] would trigger the /etc/rc.d/[service] script.
net print [cups->samba]
 
so on and so forth.
 
there is an easier way.
 
We should also maybe invest some time into making a better (wizard) routine for
configuring samba, joining it to the domain, bringing it up as an ads/pdc/bdc
machine.
 
There should also be a way to configure ldap and samba to work together, this
manual config-shit is useless.
 
A good method might be to detect the current network setup and make the
appropriate changes and settings.
 
There should also be a net share command to quickly export trees from the
commandline.
 
the tool should work on the commandline first, then X. not all servers have an X
server running.
 
Well, hope I could help and bring a little insight into the group.

Hi!

Jacob A. Alifrangis wrote:
>Is there maybe a way to consolidate (At the developer level) all of the
tools and methods into one concise list.
> 
>samba is not really tightly integrated with the OS,
>
Thanks God.   This allows it to be compiled on almost any *nix flavor.
> Is there maybe a way to re-organise the way samba works? maybe to make it
completely emulate the way it works on the windows command line?
>  
>
I don't like the windows's net command, nor the route, nor the
"tracert"
(come on, who wrote these?), nor the ping (yes, not even the ping).  If 
somebody wants a "windows compatible" net command, write a wrap
script.
(please, read on, I just don't like the feeling of using the same thing 
on windows and linux).
> 
> 
>for example make everything integrated into the net command.....
> 
>net use (file system mounting)
>net passwd
>net start,stop,restart [service] would trigger the /etc/rc.d/[service]
script.
>net print [cups->samba]
> 
>so on and so forth.
> 
>there is an easier way.
> 
>We should also maybe invest some time into making a better (wizard) routine
for configuring samba, joining it to the domain, bringing it up as an
ads/pdc/bdc machine.
>  
>
Improve the swat wizard, sounds cool.  Altough I only used it once, I 
think that any newbe would be thankful.
> 
>There should also be a way to configure ldap and samba to work together,
this manual config-shit is useless.
>  
>
I like the "manual config-shit", and it is very usefull (it works
very,
very well), I can use whatever ldap server I want, but there should be 
an option to do it "automatically".  But, you should be able to do it
by
hand still (that is exactly what I like of the open source world, you 
can "adapt" things to your taste, in case you don't like them).  
Aditonally, samba can be integrated with almost any ldap I know.  In 
order to make it "automagic", would be necessary to choose one ldap 
server to support, the others would still needed to be configured by 
hand (this is due to the different ways of installing schemas of each one)
> 
>A good method might be to detect the current network setup and make the
appropriate changes and settings.
> 
>There should also be a net share command to quickly export trees from the
commandline.
> 
>the tool should work on the commandline first, then X. not all servers have
an X server running.
> 
>Well, hope I could help and bring a little insight into the group.
>  
>

Hi there,

my wish for 4.0 is a deeper integration of ldap.
maybe in that way, that share configurations could be stored direct
in a ldap-entry.

a an example the isc dhcpd can read its configuration out of a ldap-server
and the dhcpd.conf only consits of lines like ldap port ... ldap server ...
and so on.

this would let samba and ldap feel more like ads.

regards

Arno

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Hi,

On Tue, Jul 06, 2004 at 10:34:51PM +0200, Arno Seidel
wrote:
> Hi there,
> 
> my wish for 4.0 is a deeper integration of ldap.
> maybe in that way, that share configurations could be stored direct
> in a ldap-entry.
samba3 HEAD has code for that already since a long time (although a feature
probably not very well tested and obviously not very well known).

Bye,
Guenther
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On Tue, 6 Jul 2004, Arno Seidel wrote:
> my wish for 4.0 is a deeper integration of ldap. maybe in that way, that
> share configurations could be stored direct in a ldap-entry.
This is slated for 3.2





cheers, jerry
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Hi,

and where can i find some rudimentary documentation for it??

regards
Arno
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> Von: Guenther Deschner [mailto:gd@sernet.de]
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 7. Juli 2004 00:04
> An: Arno Seidel
> Cc: samba@lists.samba.org
> Betreff: Re: [Samba] Wishlist for v4.0 Integration / Setup of samba.
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> On Tue, Jul 06, 2004 at 10:34:51PM +0200, Arno Seidel wrote:
> > Hi there,
> > 
> > my wish for 4.0 is a deeper integration of ldap.
> > maybe in that way, that share configurations could be stored direct
> > in a ldap-entry.
> 
> samba3 HEAD has code for that already since a long time (although 
> a feature
> probably not very well tested and obviously not very well known).
> 
> Bye,
> Guenther
> -- 
> Guenther Deschner, SerNet Service Network GmbH
> Phone: +49-(0)551-370000-0,  Fax: +49-(0)551-370000-9
> 
>

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Arno Seidel wrote:
| Hi,
|
| and where can i find some rudimentary documentation for it??

There is none currently nor would I recommend getting used
its current implmentation as i can pretty much guarantee that
it will change before release.




cheers, jerry
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I'm finding that most linux PDC users use LDAP for authentication.  Stupid
question why LDAP?  I total agree with improving the GUI but still nothing
beats CLI.

Markus Benkovszki
samba3.0.2 PDC

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From: Gerald (Jerry) Carter [mailto:jerry@samba.org]
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 9:43 AM
To: Jim C.
Cc: samba@lists.samba.org
Subject: Re: [Samba] Re: Wishlist for v4.0 Integration / Setup of samba.


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Jim C. wrote:
| Wrapper scripts are a good idea. Would be really good for transitioning
| over to samba from 'doze.  Could even be written as a separate package.
|
| | I don't like the windows's net command, nor the route, nor the
"tracert"
| | (come on, who wrote these?), nor the ping (yes, not even the ping).  If
| | somebody wants a "windows compatible" net command, write a wrap
script.
| | (please, read on, I just don't like the feeling of using the same thing
| | on windows and linux).
| |> for example make everything integrated into the net command.....
|
|
| | Improve the swat wizard, sounds cool.  Altough I only used it once, I
| | think that any newbe would be thankful.
|
| Another good idea for transitioners.
|
| |> There should also be a way to configure ldap and samba to work
| |> together, this manual config-shit is useless.
|
| Well a SWAT style GUI configurator would be nice.
| Probably best to work it into something like GQ
| though rather than Samba, though.

More things that are already on the TODO list.  Just needing
time, resources, and people at the moment.




cheers, jerry
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