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Varjao, Marcio

2004-Jul-30 11:41 UTC

[Samba] 2 Server's over VPN

Hi,

I'm installing a VPN bridge. So the localareas are on the same IP class
and we have broadcast
And i want on both ends to have a Samba Server
what do you recomend???
I'm Using mobile profiles so its better on each end we have its on
profile

Varjao, Marcio

2004-Jul-30 11:52 UTC

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[Samba] 2 Server's over VPN

If i Make a PDC and BDC but use on the profiles sharing local folders on each
server will it work???


-----Original Message-----
From: Arno Seidel [mailto:aseidel@aseidel.com]
Sent: sexta-feira, 30 de julho de 2004 08:48
To: Varjao, Marcio
Subject: AW: [Samba] 2 Server's over VPN


Hi,

basicaly depends this on your vpn-connection speed....
maybe it would be easier to syncronize the profiles on both servers with
rsync
> -----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
> Von: samba-bounces+aseidel=aseidel.com@lists.samba.org
> [mailto:samba-bounces+aseidel=aseidel.com@lists.samba.org]Im Auftrag von
> Varjao, Marcio
> Gesendet: Freitag, 30. Juli 2004 13:40
> An: Samba (E-mail)
> Betreff: [Samba] 2 Server's over VPN
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm installing a VPN bridge. So the localareas are on the same IP class
> and we have broadcast
> And i want on both ends to have a Samba Server
> what do you recomend???
> I'm Using mobile profiles so its better on each end we have its on
> profile
>
>
> --
> To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the
> instructions:  http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
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Ilia Chipitsine

2004-Jul-30 12:41 UTC

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[Samba] 2 Server's over VPN

it depends on VPN bandwidth.
you might also user RDP over VPN

we use something like that, w2k3 server is samba domain member, and
also it is RDP server
> Hi,
>
> I'm installing a VPN bridge. So the localareas are on the same IP class
> and we have broadcast
> And i want on both ends to have a Samba Server
> what do you recomend???
> I'm Using mobile profiles so its better on each end we have its on
> profile
>
>
> --
> To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the
> instructions:  http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
>

Varjao, Marcio

2004-Jul-30 12:46 UTC

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[Samba] 2 Server's over VPN

The problem is that there are some users ho have 1 GB or more profiles
The bandwidth isnt that good
Outlook PST is the main problem....


-----Original Message-----
From: Arno Seidel [mailto:aseidel@aseidel.com]
Sent: sexta-feira, 30 de julho de 2004 09:43
To: Varjao, Marcio
Subject: AW: [Samba] 2 Server's over VPN


Hi,

it should work...but think about the sync for the profiles that you have on
each server all profiles
> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Varjao, Marcio [mailto:VarjaoM@morganco.com]
> Gesendet: Freitag, 30. Juli 2004 13:51
> An: aseidel@aseidel.com; Samba (E-mail)
> Betreff: RE: [Samba] 2 Server's over VPN
>
>
> If i Make a PDC and BDC but use on the profiles sharing local
> folders on each server will it work???
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Arno Seidel [mailto:aseidel@aseidel.com]
> Sent: sexta-feira, 30 de julho de 2004 08:48
> To: Varjao, Marcio
> Subject: AW: [Samba] 2 Server's over VPN
>
>
> Hi,
>
> basicaly depends this on your vpn-connection speed....
> maybe it would be easier to syncronize the profiles on both servers with
> rsync
>
> > -----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: samba-bounces+aseidel=aseidel.com@lists.samba.org
> > [mailto:samba-bounces+aseidel=aseidel.com@lists.samba.org]Im Auftrag
von
> > Varjao, Marcio
> > Gesendet: Freitag, 30. Juli 2004 13:40
> > An: Samba (E-mail)
> > Betreff: [Samba] 2 Server's over VPN
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm installing a VPN bridge. So the localareas are on the same IP
class
> > and we have broadcast
> > And i want on both ends to have a Samba Server
> > what do you recomend???
> > I'm Using mobile profiles so its better on each end we have its on
> > profile
> >
> >
> > --
> > To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the
> > instructions:  http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
> >
>
>

Varjao, Marcio

2004-Jul-30 12:58 UTC

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[Samba] 2 Server's over VPN

I'm from brasil
Here the internet isn't very reliable
Sometimes the Net stops and comes back only hours later, the internet
providers are the problem
What hapens with outlook in the process???
And other files...


-----Original Message-----
From: samba-bounces+jamesmarkcoggan=yahoo.com.br@lists.samba.org
[mailto:samba-bounces+jamesmarkcoggan=yahoo.com.br@lists.samba.org]On
Behalf Of Ilia Chipitsine
Sent: sexta-feira, 30 de julho de 2004 09:52
To: Varjao, Marcio
Cc: Samba (E-mail)
Subject: RE: [Samba] 2 Server's over VPN

> The problem is that there are some users ho have 1 GB or more profiles
what is content of those profiles ?
recently I modified domain policy and after that, for example,
"Application Data", "My Documents" and "Desktop"
are not moving across
network anymore. They are put on network shares, but they are not
anymore
parts of roaming profile.
> The bandwidth isnt that good
> Outlook PST is the main problem....
Outlook doesn't have to be part of roaming profile also.
for example, you can move outlook.pst out of roaming profile
(on \\server\username\outlook-folder) and after you start Outlook,
it will not find Outlook.pst ... and it will kindly ask You where
can it find outlook.pst

yes, that file is damn big, but data transfer across network are not
that
big when it is used.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Arno Seidel [mailto:aseidel@aseidel.com]
> Sent: sexta-feira, 30 de julho de 2004 09:43
> To: Varjao, Marcio
> Subject: AW: [Samba] 2 Server's over VPN
>
>
> Hi,
>
> it should work...but think about the sync for the profiles that you
have on> each server all profiles
>
> > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: Varjao, Marcio [mailto:VarjaoM@morganco.com]
> > Gesendet: Freitag, 30. Juli 2004 13:51
> > An: aseidel@aseidel.com; Samba (E-mail)
> > Betreff: RE: [Samba] 2 Server's over VPN
> >
> >
> > If i Make a PDC and BDC but use on the profiles sharing local
> > folders on each server will it work???
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Arno Seidel [mailto:aseidel@aseidel.com]
> > Sent: sexta-feira, 30 de julho de 2004 08:48
> > To: Varjao, Marcio
> > Subject: AW: [Samba] 2 Server's over VPN
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > basicaly depends this on your vpn-connection speed....
> > maybe it would be easier to syncronize the profiles on both servers
with> > rsync
> >
> > > -----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
> > > Von: samba-bounces+aseidel=aseidel.com@lists.samba.org
> > > [mailto:samba-bounces+aseidel=aseidel.com@lists.samba.org]Im
Auftrag von> > > Varjao, Marcio
> > > Gesendet: Freitag, 30. Juli 2004 13:40
> > > An: Samba (E-mail)
> > > Betreff: [Samba] 2 Server's over VPN
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I'm installing a VPN bridge. So the localareas are on the
same IP
class> > > and we have broadcast
> > > And i want on both ends to have a Samba Server
> > > what do you recomend???
> > > I'm Using mobile profiles so its better on each end we have
its on
> > > profile
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read
the
> > > instructions:  http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
> > >
> >
> >
>
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Varjao, Marcio

2004-Jul-30 13:11 UTC

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[Samba] 2 Server's over VPN

I?m Going to use the OpenVPN bridge, for the machines is invisble, the bridge
allow's broadcast and netbios
Do you think i still will have a problem???
What do you suggest???


-----Original Message-----
From: Ilia Chipitsine [mailto:ilia@paramon.ru]
Sent: sexta-feira, 30 de julho de 2004 10:07
To: Varjao, Marcio
Cc: Samba (E-mail)
Subject: RE: [Samba] 2 Server's over VPN


> I'm from brasil
> Here the internet isn't very reliable
there are two kinds of connections:

1) fast, dirty cheap and reliable
those connections usually called LAN

2) not so fast, not so reliable, not so cheap
those connections usually called WAN

fileserver protocols like SMB do not work within WAN, they work for LAN
only. if you are dealing with "2)" you can use http/sql/rdp protocols
they were specially designed for WAN connections.

in your case you can use rdp. or citrix.
samba will not work good over unreliable connections.
actually, windows timeouts are somewhat hardcoded. most probably you won't
be able to describe your windows workstation to wait for hours for file
locking.
> Sometimes the Net stops and comes back only hours later, the internet
> providers are the problem
> What hapens with outlook in the process???
> And other files...
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: samba-bounces+jamesmarkcoggan=yahoo.com.br@lists.samba.org
> [mailto:samba-bounces+jamesmarkcoggan=yahoo.com.br@lists.samba.org]On
> Behalf Of Ilia Chipitsine
> Sent: sexta-feira, 30 de julho de 2004 09:52
> To: Varjao, Marcio
> Cc: Samba (E-mail)
> Subject: RE: [Samba] 2 Server's over VPN
>
>
> > The problem is that there are some users ho have 1 GB or more profiles
>
> what is content of those profiles ?
> recently I modified domain policy and after that, for example,
> "Application Data", "My Documents" and
"Desktop" are not moving across
> network anymore. They are put on network shares, but they are not
> anymore
> parts of roaming profile.
>
> > The bandwidth isnt that good
> > Outlook PST is the main problem....
>
> Outlook doesn't have to be part of roaming profile also.
> for example, you can move outlook.pst out of roaming profile
> (on \\server\username\outlook-folder) and after you start Outlook,
> it will not find Outlook.pst ... and it will kindly ask You where
> can it find outlook.pst
>
> yes, that file is damn big, but data transfer across network are not
> that
> big when it is used.
>
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Arno Seidel [mailto:aseidel@aseidel.com]
> > Sent: sexta-feira, 30 de julho de 2004 09:43
> > To: Varjao, Marcio
> > Subject: AW: [Samba] 2 Server's over VPN
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > it should work...but think about the sync for the profiles that you
> have on
> > each server all profiles
> >
> > > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> > > Von: Varjao, Marcio [mailto:VarjaoM@morganco.com]
> > > Gesendet: Freitag, 30. Juli 2004 13:51
> > > An: aseidel@aseidel.com; Samba (E-mail)
> > > Betreff: RE: [Samba] 2 Server's over VPN
> > >
> > >
> > > If i Make a PDC and BDC but use on the profiles sharing local
> > > folders on each server will it work???
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Arno Seidel [mailto:aseidel@aseidel.com]
> > > Sent: sexta-feira, 30 de julho de 2004 08:48
> > > To: Varjao, Marcio
> > > Subject: AW: [Samba] 2 Server's over VPN
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > basicaly depends this on your vpn-connection speed....
> > > maybe it would be easier to syncronize the profiles on both
servers
> with
> > > rsync
> > >
> > > > -----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
> > > > Von: samba-bounces+aseidel=aseidel.com@lists.samba.org
> > > > [mailto:samba-bounces+aseidel=aseidel.com@lists.samba.org]Im
> Auftrag von
> > > > Varjao, Marcio
> > > > Gesendet: Freitag, 30. Juli 2004 13:40
> > > > An: Samba (E-mail)
> > > > Betreff: [Samba] 2 Server's over VPN
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I'm installing a VPN bridge. So the localareas are on
the same IP
> class
> > > > and we have broadcast
> > > > And i want on both ends to have a Samba Server
> > > > what do you recomend???
> > > > I'm Using mobile profiles so its better on each end we
have its on
> > > > profile
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and
read the
> > > > instructions:  http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the
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> >
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Varjao, Marcio

2004-Jul-30 13:28 UTC

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[Samba] 2 Server's over VPN

Sorry my ignorance but what is rdp???
what's the diference bettwen smb and rdp???


-----Original Message-----
From: Ilia Chipitsine [mailto:ilia@paramon.ru]
Sent: sexta-feira, 30 de julho de 2004 10:24
To: Varjao, Marcio
Cc: Samba (E-mail)
Subject: RE: [Samba] 2 Server's over VPN

> I?m Going to use the OpenVPN bridge, for the machines is invisble, the
bridge allow's broadcast and netbios
> Do you think i still will have a problem???
> What do you suggest???
if connection is unreliable (from SMB networking point of view :) I
suggest to use rdp instead of SMB
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ilia Chipitsine [mailto:ilia@paramon.ru]
> Sent: sexta-feira, 30 de julho de 2004 10:07
> To: Varjao, Marcio
> Cc: Samba (E-mail)
> Subject: RE: [Samba] 2 Server's over VPN
>
>
>
> > I'm from brasil
> > Here the internet isn't very reliable
>
> there are two kinds of connections:
>
> 1) fast, dirty cheap and reliable
> those connections usually called LAN
>
> 2) not so fast, not so reliable, not so cheap
> those connections usually called WAN
>
> fileserver protocols like SMB do not work within WAN, they work for LAN
> only. if you are dealing with "2)" you can use http/sql/rdp
protocols
> they were specially designed for WAN connections.
>
> in your case you can use rdp. or citrix.
> samba will not work good over unreliable connections.
> actually, windows timeouts are somewhat hardcoded. most probably you
won't
> be able to describe your windows workstation to wait for hours for file
> locking.
>
> > Sometimes the Net stops and comes back only hours later, the internet
> > providers are the problem
> > What hapens with outlook in the process???
> > And other files...
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: samba-bounces+jamesmarkcoggan=yahoo.com.br@lists.samba.org
> > [mailto:samba-bounces+jamesmarkcoggan=yahoo.com.br@lists.samba.org]On
> > Behalf Of Ilia Chipitsine
> > Sent: sexta-feira, 30 de julho de 2004 09:52
> > To: Varjao, Marcio
> > Cc: Samba (E-mail)
> > Subject: RE: [Samba] 2 Server's over VPN
> >
> >
> > > The problem is that there are some users ho have 1 GB or more
profiles
> >
> > what is content of those profiles ?
> > recently I modified domain policy and after that, for example,
> > "Application Data", "My Documents" and
"Desktop" are not moving across
> > network anymore. They are put on network shares, but they are not
> > anymore
> > parts of roaming profile.
> >
> > > The bandwidth isnt that good
> > > Outlook PST is the main problem....
> >
> > Outlook doesn't have to be part of roaming profile also.
> > for example, you can move outlook.pst out of roaming profile
> > (on \\server\username\outlook-folder) and after you start Outlook,
> > it will not find Outlook.pst ... and it will kindly ask You where
> > can it find outlook.pst
> >
> > yes, that file is damn big, but data transfer across network are not
> > that
> > big when it is used.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Arno Seidel [mailto:aseidel@aseidel.com]
> > > Sent: sexta-feira, 30 de julho de 2004 09:43
> > > To: Varjao, Marcio
> > > Subject: AW: [Samba] 2 Server's over VPN
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > it should work...but think about the sync for the profiles that
you
> > have on
> > > each server all profiles
> > >
> > > > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> > > > Von: Varjao, Marcio [mailto:VarjaoM@morganco.com]
> > > > Gesendet: Freitag, 30. Juli 2004 13:51
> > > > An: aseidel@aseidel.com; Samba (E-mail)
> > > > Betreff: RE: [Samba] 2 Server's over VPN
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > If i Make a PDC and BDC but use on the profiles sharing
local
> > > > folders on each server will it work???
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Arno Seidel [mailto:aseidel@aseidel.com]
> > > > Sent: sexta-feira, 30 de julho de 2004 08:48
> > > > To: Varjao, Marcio
> > > > Subject: AW: [Samba] 2 Server's over VPN
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > basicaly depends this on your vpn-connection speed....
> > > > maybe it would be easier to syncronize the profiles on both
servers
> > with
> > > > rsync
> > > >
> > > > > -----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
> > > > > Von: samba-bounces+aseidel=aseidel.com@lists.samba.org
> > > > >
[mailto:samba-bounces+aseidel=aseidel.com@lists.samba.org]Im
> > Auftrag von
> > > > > Varjao, Marcio
> > > > > Gesendet: Freitag, 30. Juli 2004 13:40
> > > > > An: Samba (E-mail)
> > > > > Betreff: [Samba] 2 Server's over VPN
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm installing a VPN bridge. So the localareas are
on the same IP
> > class
> > > > > and we have broadcast
> > > > > And i want on both ends to have a Samba Server
> > > > > what do you recomend???
> > > > > I'm Using mobile profiles so its better on each end
we have its on
> > > > > profile
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL
and read the
> > > > > instructions: 
http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
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