samba - Nov 2003 - 'Account disabled due to email bouncing' madness

Hi,
 1) The virus and spam problem solved permanently ;)
*rofl thats what the whole worlds wants.
Please study i. e. symantec.com or simular and you will find, that there is
now way to
stop infected systems to send out faked mails from faked adresses.
There is nothing a listadmin can do against it.
You should use antispam software and filter lists, the only thing this list
is invoked
in your recieved spam is that your email adress is now in a infected system
adressbook which sends out now virus mails, if this mails comes to another
antivirus gateway this informs you as the faked sender that it did not
deliever the mail you never sended.
This is a setup from brainless ( but good ment ) mailadmins that produces
the info spam, which in some
case makes more traffic as the virus himself
Best Regards
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Daniel Kasak" <dkasak@nusconsulting.com.au>
To: <samba@lists.samba.org>
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 10:09 PM
Subject: [Samba] 'Account disabled due to email bouncing' madness

> We have a mail filter ( CanIt, by Roaring Penguin, see
> http://www.roaringpenguin.com ) that is doing a very good job indeed of
> blocking spam and viruses.
> And I certainly get a lot from this list ... so much that without the
> use of CanIt, I would have already had to retire my email address, and
> possibly even our entire domain, to avoid the constant march of crap.
>
> But ... the list server keeps locking my account, because messages are
> bouncing. That's how CanIt works - it bounces spam and viruses.
>
> So, I'd either like:
>
> 1) The virus and spam problem solved permanently ;) or
> 2) The rules on the list server relaxed a little so I don't have to
keep
> re-activating my account.
>
> Dan
>
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On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:07:56 +0000, Daniel Kasak wrote:
> We have a mail filter ( CanIt, by Roaring Penguin, see 
> http://www.roaringpenguin.com ) that is doing a very good job indeed of 
> blocking spam and viruses.
> And I certainly get a lot from this list ... so much that without the 
> use of CanIt, I would have already had to retire my email address, and 
> possibly even our entire domain, to avoid the constant march of crap.
> 
> But ... the list server keeps locking my account, because messages are 
> bouncing. That's how CanIt works - it bounces spam and viruses.
If this is true, it's pretty stupid.  Bouncing spam/worms messages is
pointless because the from address is usually forged.  

Configure your mailserver to not send bounces and the problem will go
away.  CanIt probably has an option for this.
> So, I'd either like:
> 
> 1) The virus and spam problem solved permanently ;) or
Patches welcome.
> 2) The rules on the list server relaxed a little so I don't have to
keep
> re-activating my account.
No, I don't think so.

-- 
Martin

On Friday 14 November 2003 22:09, Daniel Kasak wrote:
> And I certainly get a lot from this list ... so much that without the
> use of CanIt, I would have already had to retire my email address, and
> possibly even our entire domain, to avoid the constant march of crap.
This indeed is a problem. Since day 1 when I subscribed to this list (and
I'm
on a lot others too), I got flooded by spam and viruses (50-60 per day).
I have no idea why that could be though...

Lars

We have a mail filter ( CanIt, by Roaring Penguin, see 
http://www.roaringpenguin.com ) that is doing a very good job indeed of 
blocking spam and viruses.
And I certainly get a lot from this list ... so much that without the 
use of CanIt, I would have already had to retire my email address, and 
possibly even our entire domain, to avoid the constant march of crap.

But ... the list server keeps locking my account, because messages are 
bouncing. That's how CanIt works - it bounces spam and viruses.

So, I'd either like:

1) The virus and spam problem solved permanently ;) or
2) The rules on the list server relaxed a little so I don't have to keep 
re-activating my account.

Dan

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daniel Kasak [mailto:dkasak@nusconsulting.com.au]
> But ... the list server keeps locking my account, because 
> messages are 
> bouncing. That's how CanIt works - it bounces spam and viruses.
You should really change this behavior and drop the viruses instead.
Viruses almost always forge their sending address, so you're only making
things worse by bouncing them.  Most of the email traffic I got as a result
of the most recent virus wasn't viruses itself, it was bounce messages from
badly configured anti-virus systems in response to viruses that had been
sent with my address forged on the From line.  I don't have a virus and
there's absolutely *nothing* I can do to find out where the actual infection
is that's forging my address!  It really annoys me that these anti-virus
programs insist on trying to notify me anyway.