samba - Aug 2003 - Re: Samba vs. Windows : significant difference intimestamp handling?

>> > > Fine. Use reiserfs and don't worry about ctime.
>> >
>> > Why? Does reiserfs handle ctime in a different 
>> > way than other linux filesystems?
>>
>> It's not supposed to given the same instructions 
>> from clients but it appears to because perhaps it 
>> elicits different kind of response from Office. 
>> Maybe Office behaves different when the samba 
>> server's fs is reiser.
>
> Quite interesting. Can you describe any particular 
> case of a different behavior (samba + ext2 vs. samba 
> + reiser)? I really wonder where the roots of such 
> differences are.
Sorry to disappoint you, Honza. After I evaluated the 
major linux fs's I selected reiserfs and used it ever 
since. 

It just happens that the owner of this thread described
a behaviour of Office software which I couldn't confirm
on my own system. Since the only difference was the
kind of fs I assumed that perhaps Office treats 
reiserfs slightly different than ext3. 

I may be wrong because some other difference in samba 
setup might as well be the cause but it's only a 
working hypothesis. It's not as though I said the moon 
is gonna fall from the sky tonight. Just that Office 
leaving mtime alone on my system instead of updating 
it, as it does on other people's system, might, just 
might, be because when Windows/Office negotiates what 
it can/can't do with a remote fs the checklist is in 
some small detail different for samba/reiserfs.
>> In any case, reiserfs is superior to or at least as 
>> good as any other Linux fs.
>
> I do not discuss quality of the filesystems. I 
> thought that there were no differences in the way of 
> using access times between all linux native
> filesystems (ext2/3, reiser, xfs, jfs).
There shouldn't be any differences. The difference pops
up when a 3d party software like Office joins the game.


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> > Quite interesting. Can you describe any particular case of a different
> > behavior (samba + ext2 vs. samba + reiser)? I really wonder where the
> > roots of such differences are.
>
> Sorry to disappoint you, Honza. After I evaluated the major linux fs's
I
> selected reiserfs and used it ever since.
OK. I will do some tests myself.
> It just happens that the owner of this thread described a behaviour of
> Office software which I couldn't confirm on my own system. Since the
> only difference was the kind of fs I assumed that perhaps Office treats
> reiserfs slightly different than ext3.
[...]
> > I thought that there were no differences in the way of using access
> > times between all linux native filesystems (ext2/3, reiser, xfs, jfs).
>
> There shouldn't be any differences. The difference pops up when a 3d
> party software like Office joins the game.
I do not believe this! I looked into samba sources and didn't find any way
how client (i.e. Windows + Office) could see different filesystem, there
is no API which would make this possibe.

But I do not know samba sources well, so it's quite possible I'm wrong.
I'll do the tests.

-- Honza Houstek