I'm curious to what people are using for backing up their samba servers. Here's are some specs to consider: - 1TB (yes, that's terabyte) of data - multiple servers backup to one tape drive connected to a server (preferably a linux system) - using an autoloader (in this case, an HP 1/9 LTO system) - need to be able to backup daily changes and/or changes since last full backup Currently I'm using Backup Exec from NetWare. The *nix client has no support to do anything but a full. The archive bit obviously won't work, and backing up based on date doesn't seem to work either (it still does a full). I'm interested in finding a native linux solution since I don't see a lot of point in having to use a Windows server with a *nix client when I'm trying to get away from Windows. If you have suggestions or are using something you are happy with, please respond. Currently, I'm evaluating Novastor's Novanet 8.5. I know there are others that I can eval, I'm just interested in finding out what others are using and happy with. Thanks. Rick Segeberg Provo Site Manager, IT Department The Waterford Institute rick.segeberg@waterford.org <mailto:rick.segeberg@waterford.org> ************************************* This email may contain privileged or confidential material intended for the named recipient only. If you are not the named recipient, delete this message and all attachments. Any review, copying, printing, disclosure or other use is prohibited. We reserve the right to monitor email sent through our network. *************************************
We're using Syncsort Backup Express to backup about 1/2 TB to an ADIC Scaler. It works well but the sales people leave a little to be desired and it's expensive. Email me offlist if you want more details. Den Henrickson Network Administrator Van Meter Industrial 319-368-2822 -----Original Message----- From: Rick Segeberg [mailto:rick.segeberg@waterford.org] Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 4:24 PM To: samba@lists.samba.org Subject: [Samba] samba backup software I'm curious to what people are using for backing up their samba servers. Here's are some specs to consider: - 1TB (yes, that's terabyte) of data - multiple servers backup to one tape drive connected to a server (preferably a linux system) - using an autoloader (in this case, an HP 1/9 LTO system) - need to be able to backup daily changes and/or changes since last full backup Currently I'm using Backup Exec from NetWare. The *nix client has no support to do anything but a full. The archive bit obviously won't work, and backing up based on date doesn't seem to work either (it still does a full). I'm interested in finding a native linux solution since I don't see a lot of point in having to use a Windows server with a *nix client when I'm trying to get away from Windows. If you have suggestions or are using something you are happy with, please respond. Currently, I'm evaluating Novastor's Novanet 8.5. I know there are others that I can eval, I'm just interested in finding out what others are using and happy with. Thanks. Rick Segeberg Provo Site Manager, IT Department The Waterford Institute rick.segeberg@waterford.org <mailto:rick.segeberg@waterford.org> ************************************* This email may contain privileged or confidential material intended for the named recipient only. If you are not the named recipient, delete this message and all attachments. Any review, copying, printing, disclosure or other use is prohibited. We reserve the right to monitor email sent through our network. ************************************* -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Rick, I use XFS as my filesystem. (included with SuSE/Mandrake/United Linux, patch avail. for Redhat and vanilla kernel) It comes with a very powerful backup tool xfsdump. xfsdump writes the backup level into each files metadata (i.e. EA - Extended Attributes). A full backup is a level 0 backup. =20 A level 1 backs up all files changed since the level 0. A level 2, gets everything since the last level 1 (or 0). A level 3, everything since the last level 2 (or 1 or 0). Etc. thru level 9. If you setup a nice schedule, you can ensure a small number of tapes req. for restore. The other nice thing about xfsdump is that it backs up ACLs (if enabled in Samba). Most backup solutions don't do that. Unfortunately, I don't think xfsdump has any support for an autoloader. (I don't have one). But, I do think that Amanda can be used as a backup manager to handle the autoloader and invoke xfsdump as required.=20 I've not used Amanda. Greg=20 >> I'm curious to what people are using for backing up their samba servers. >> Here's are some specs to consider: >> =20 >> - 1TB (yes, that's terabyte) of data >> - multiple servers backup to one tape drive connected to a server >> (preferably a linux system) >> - using an autoloader (in this case, an HP 1/9 LTO system) >> - need to be able to backup daily changes and/or changes since last full >> backup >> =20 >> Currently I'm using Backup Exec from NetWare. The *nix client has no >> support to do anything but a full. The archive bit obviously won't >> work, and backing up based on date doesn't seem to work either (it still >> does a full). I'm interested in finding a native linux solution since I >> don't see a lot of point in having to use a Windows server with a *nix >> client when I'm trying to get away from Windows. >> =20 >> If you have suggestions or are using something you are happy with, >> please respond. Currently, I'm evaluating Novastor's Novanet 8.5. I >> know there are others that I can eval, I'm just interested in finding >> out what others are using and happy with. >> =20 >> Thanks. >> =20 >> =20 >> =20 >> Rick Segeberg >> Provo Site Manager, IT Department >> The Waterford Institute >> rick.segeberg@waterford.org <mailto:rick.segeberg@waterford.org>=20 >> =20 >> ************************************* >> This email may contain privileged or confidential material intended for >> the named recipient only. >> If you are not the named recipient, delete this message and all >> attachments. =20 >> Any review, copying, printing, disclosure or other use is prohibited. >> We reserve the right to monitor email sent through our network. >> ************************************* >> --=20 >> To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the >> instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
>> - 1TB (yes, that's terabyte) of data>> - multiple servers backup to one tape drive connected to a server >> (preferably a linux system) Rick, I forgot to answer the multiple servers part of your question. That is exactly what Amanda is designed for. Greg
try rdiff-backup Rick Segeberg wrote:> I'm curious to what people are using for backing up their samba servers. > Here's are some specs to consider: > > - 1TB (yes, that's terabyte) of data > - multiple servers backup to one tape drive connected to a server > (preferably a linux system) > - using an autoloader (in this case, an HP 1/9 LTO system) > - need to be able to backup daily changes and/or changes since last full > backup > > Currently I'm using Backup Exec from NetWare. The *nix client has no > support to do anything but a full. The archive bit obviously won't > work, and backing up based on date doesn't seem to work either (it still > does a full). I'm interested in finding a native linux solution since I > don't see a lot of point in having to use a Windows server with a *nix > client when I'm trying to get away from Windows. > > If you have suggestions or are using something you are happy with, > please respond. Currently, I'm evaluating Novastor's Novanet 8.5. I > know there are others that I can eval, I'm just interested in finding > out what others are using and happy with. > > Thanks. > > > > Rick Segeberg > Provo Site Manager, IT Department > The Waterford Institute > rick.segeberg@waterford.org <mailto:rick.segeberg@waterford.org> > > > > ************************************* > > This email may contain privileged or confidential material intended for the named recipient only. > If you are not the named recipient, delete this message and all attachments. > Any review, copying, printing, disclosure or other use is prohibited. > We reserve the right to monitor email sent through our network. > > *************************************-- Levente "Si vis pacem para bellum!"
It is costly, but Veritas has products that run on linux.. We use Veritas Datacenter, which runs on a linux server, and backs up 6TB of data. We are working on migrating up from ait2 technology, and are deciding on whether to go to ait3, or SuperDLT.. We had to upgrade beyond amanda because it wasn't performing well enough. (but it was on DLT technology, so slower). i think we pay around $200 per client license, for about 30-40 clients. that does not include the actual datacenter server license. I can check on the datacenter license, but it will probably come down to speaking to a rep.. I can get you contact info if interested. Datacenter lets you do full and Incremental backups, restore single files, search clients/servers for files, and see different versions (based on backup date) of the file if needed. you can do archives for permanent (unexpired) tapes, or setup tape expiration policies for incrementals and fulls. You also have the ability to do restores to machines/directories OTHER than the original machine/directory (which is handy if the original disk that the data came from is now full and has no space for the restore.) Matt Schillinger mschilli@vss.fsi.com On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 16:23, Rick Segeberg wrote:> I'm curious to what people are using for backing up their samba servers. > Here's are some specs to consider: > > - 1TB (yes, that's terabyte) of data > - multiple servers backup to one tape drive connected to a server > (preferably a linux system) > - using an autoloader (in this case, an HP 1/9 LTO system) > - need to be able to backup daily changes and/or changes since last full > backup > > Currently I'm using Backup Exec from NetWare. The *nix client has no > support to do anything but a full. The archive bit obviously won't > work, and backing up based on date doesn't seem to work either (it still > does a full). I'm interested in finding a native linux solution since I > don't see a lot of point in having to use a Windows server with a *nix > client when I'm trying to get away from Windows. > > If you have suggestions or are using something you are happy with, > please respond. Currently, I'm evaluating Novastor's Novanet 8.5. I > know there are others that I can eval, I'm just interested in finding > out what others are using and happy with. > > Thanks. > > > > Rick Segeberg > Provo Site Manager, IT Department > The Waterford Institute > rick.segeberg@waterford.org <mailto:rick.segeberg@waterford.org> > > > > ************************************* > > This email may contain privileged or confidential material intended for the named recipient only. > If you are not the named recipient, delete this message and all attachments. > Any review, copying, printing, disclosure or other use is prohibited. > We reserve the right to monitor email sent through our network. > > ************************************* > -- > To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the > instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
NovaStor with VXA is the fastest backup combination I've found. Rick Segeberg (rick.segeberg@waterford.org) wrote*:> >I'm curious to what people are using for backing up their samba servers. >Here's are some specs to consider: > >- 1TB (yes, that's terabyte) of data >- multiple servers backup to one tape drive connected to a server >(preferably a linux system) >- using an autoloader (in this case, an HP 1/9 LTO system) >- need to be able to backup daily changes and/or changes since last full >backup > >Currently I'm using Backup Exec from NetWare. The *nix client has no >support to do anything but a full. The archive bit obviously won't >work, and backing up based on date doesn't seem to work either (it still >does a full). I'm interested in finding a native linux solution since I >don't see a lot of point in having to use a Windows server with a *nix >client when I'm trying to get away from Windows. > >If you have suggestions or are using something you are happy with, >please respond. Currently, I'm evaluating Novastor's Novanet 8.5. I >know there are others that I can eval, I'm just interested in finding >out what others are using and happy with. > >Thanks. > > > >Rick Segeberg >Provo Site Manager, IT Department >The Waterford Institute >rick.segeberg@waterford.org <mailto:rick.segeberg@waterford.org> > > > >************************************* > >This email may contain privileged or confidential material intended for the namedrecipient only.>If you are not the named recipient, delete this message and all attachments. >Any review, copying, printing, disclosure or other use is prohibited. >We reserve the right to monitor email sent through our network. > >************************************* >
Hi, Rick Segeberg, Thursday, March, 6th 2003 you wrote: RS> I'm curious to what people are using for backing up their samba servers. RS> Here's are some specs to consider: RS> - 1TB (yes, that's terabyte) of data RS> - multiple servers backup to one tape drive connected to a server RS> (preferably a linux system) RS> - using an autoloader (in this case, an HP 1/9 LTO system) RS> - need to be able to backup daily changes and/or changes since last full RS> backup Use amanda (www.amanda.org). It fulfills all your listed wishes ;-) And it?s free. -- Greets, Stefan. oops monitor mailto:monitor@oops.co.at
>> We are working on migrating up from ait2 technology, and are >> deciding on whether to go to ait3, or SuperDLT..Have you seen the new SAIT technology from Sony. Uses AIT3 density media, but in a roughly DLT form factor. The cartridge holds 5x the sq. in. of AIT, so you get 500 GB uncompressed on a single tape. And since the form factor is close to DLT, the library manufacturers just have to replace the drives to use it. (i.e. The robotics/slots don't have to change.) I think someone already has announced a SAIT library. (Search the news section of google for SAIT). Greg --=20 Greg Freemyer