samba - Jul 2002 - [semi-ot] Printing w/ NT, automated driver download and modifying printer settings

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Greetings,

I've configured Samba for automated printer driver download by all Windows
clients. However, I run into the following problem with NT4/2000/XP
computers:

Every user can connect to any printer and install the driver. (OK.)

Only the printer admins can change hardware settings (f.ex. "Can it do
duplex?"). (semi-OK.)

BUT: Printer hardware settings are stored in the user profile. So, the
printer admins can set up their printer config properly, everyone else is
glued to the default settings (which are partly wrong). (NOT OK. BAD. :])

Do you know of any tips and tricks how to resolve this problem and similar
ones? Is there anything like a howto, or some documentation?

kind regards,
Andreas

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On Tue, 2002-07-09 at 13:43, Andreas K. Huettel wrote:
> Every user can connect to any printer and install the driver. (OK.)
Same here.
 
> Only the printer admins can change hardware settings (f.ex. "Can it do
> duplex?"). (semi-OK.)
Same here.
> BUT: Printer hardware settings are stored in the user profile. So, the
> printer admins can set up their printer config properly, everyone else is
> glued to the default settings (which are partly wrong). (NOT OK. BAD. :])
Don't see that situation at all. When the driver is configured by the
printer admin it is instantly changed for all users on the domain.

Chris

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Elsewhere on the list, Andreas K. Huettel wrote:
> I've configured Samba for automated printer driver download by all
Windows
> clients. However, I run into the following problem with NT4/2000/XP
> computers:
> 
> Every user can connect to any printer and install the driver. (OK.)
Ah...if only I could get that far along, I'd be a happy man.  Could you 
perhaps shed some light on how you got things to work?

I have a Samba server (2.2.5) that also runs CUPS.  The printer is an HP 
4550N printer connected via TCP (the printer has a JetDirect card 
attached).  I can print directly from the server ('lp file.ps' for 
example).  I can also print from remote clients--if I manually install 
drivers for the printer first.  Finally, I am able to 'upload' drivers
to
the samba server.

The remote clients are currently just Windows 2000 boxes, and there will
be NT4.0 boxes later on

What I cannot do is twofold:

1)  Automatically download drivers to clients.  When I try to add the
printer, I get a pop-up box reading: 

	"The server on which the printer resides does not have the correct
	printer driver installed.  If you want to install the driver on
	your local computer, click OK."

On clicking OK, you get the usual 'add printer wizard' dialogue box, and
if I choose, I can add the correct drivers.


2)   There appear to be permission problems somewhere as well.  After 
uploading the drivers, I am unable choose one for the printer to actually 
use.  The drivers loaded on the server correctly appear in the
'Advanced'
tab of the printer properties window, but when I click 'OK' or
'Apply', a
dialogue box appears reading:
	 "Printer settings could not be saved.  Access is denied."

I find this curious for a few reasons:  I am logged in a Administrator on 
the W2K box,  The Admin. user is mapped to root on the Samba server, the 
permissions are such that anyone can read the driver files on the Samba 
server, and anyone can read the /var/cache/samba files as needed.   Lastly 
(and strangest), I *can* modify the options in the Security tab, and have 
set full access to "Everyone" (print, manage jobs, and manage
printers).

Snippits from smb.conf:
[global]
        load printers = yes
        printcap name = lpstat
        printing = cups
        printer admin = @wheel, @printers
        addprinter command = cupsaddsmb

[printers]
        comment = All Printers
        path = /var/spool/samba
        browseable = no
        guest ok = no
        writable = no
        printable = yes
        create mode = 740
        printing = cups

[print$]
        comment = printer drivers
        path = /etc/samba/drivers
        browsable = yes
        guest ok = no
        read only = yes
        write list = root, @wheel, @printers


Any suggestions or ideas that people may have would be more than welcome.  
I've checked the mailing list for things along these lines, but none of 
them seem to quite apply. :-/

Thanks,

--Jesse

On Thu, 2002-07-11 at 04:41, Erlend Mjaavatten wrote:
> Through quite a lot of trial and error I found that both the version of
> samba and the driver are factors in the success of printer driver settings
> getting all the way to the client.
Agreed, and even expanded to include whether or not the drivers work at
all! One client has a bunch of large Ricoh machines, needed PCL drivers
(DOS application that only sends PCL) and it wasn't until I loaded the
"point and print" type drivers that they could print at all via Samba.

Chris

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