Rails - Oct 2012 - What is Formtastic and SimpleForm gem ? Is any one of this is by default included in Rails ?

Hi all,

I read  Formtastic and SimpleForm gem.

I am using 3.4

Q 1  Is any one of this is by default included in Rails ? 

Q2   Any advantage of this gems over  simple form tags ?

As per my knowledge we are using form helper , but still i raised  the 
qustion ?


Thanks 

Regards

Fahim Babar Patel 






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Hi,

On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 1:35 AM, Fahim Patel
<pafahim-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
wrote:
> Q 1  Is any one of this is by default included in Rails ?
No.
> Q2   Any advantage of this gems over  simple form tags ?
For me, most of the time there is not, actually they add overhead IMO
(at least for my purposes) so I actually just build meta-form-wrapper
helpers that generate generic left_text_area and other methods like it
that just add the classes I need for forms and wrap the
<section>''s
around the generic helpers that Rails already provides. That is,
instead of including another dependency that I don''t need, but for
some people they bring great benefit because they can handle HTML from
step 1 to end, I don''t like that because I prefer to directly control
every bit of output my app makes.

Only you can evaluate whether or not they are worth it, it''s a battle
of your own to fight, I can honestly say I would use them if I
actually had a use for them, and many people will agree they have a
use for them, but I personally don''t have a use for them so I choose
not to use them.  You have to evaluate that for yourself.

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Thanks lot to clear this topic.

Regads
Fahim Babar Patel

On Wednesday, October 31, 2012 12:11:15 PM UTC+5:30, Jordon Bedwell
wrote:
>
> Hi, 
>
> On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 1:35 AM, Fahim Patel
<paf...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org<javascript:>>
> wrote: 
> > Q 1  Is any one of this is by default included in Rails ? 
>
> No. 
>
> > Q2   Any advantage of this gems over  simple form tags ? 
>
> For me, most of the time there is not, actually they add overhead IMO 
> (at least for my purposes) so I actually just build meta-form-wrapper 
> helpers that generate generic left_text_area and other methods like it 
> that just add the classes I need for forms and wrap the
<section>''s
> around the generic helpers that Rails already provides. That is, 
> instead of including another dependency that I don''t need, but for
> some people they bring great benefit because they can handle HTML from 
> step 1 to end, I don''t like that because I prefer to directly
control
> every bit of output my app makes. 
>
> Only you can evaluate whether or not they are worth it, it''s a
battle
> of your own to fight, I can honestly say I would use them if I 
> actually had a use for them, and many people will agree they have a 
> use for them, but I personally don''t have a use for them so I
choose
> not to use them.  You have to evaluate that for yourself. 
>
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