I have been trying to get the 30 minutes tutorial "Rolling with Ruby on Rails revisited" going for a week now with zero luck. (Actually, I am trying this at work as I am the one tasked to see how usable it all is, so it was a work week, meaning 40ish hours.) I got instant rails, as the tutorial said I should, but it could not connect to MySQL. I changed this and that and got it to connect. Then, I could not get it to generate the new application. (That is the part where I type in "rails cookbook2". The problem was that, if I typed it in at the location given, it could not find the correct thing to run as if there was a pathing problem. I searched for executables called "rails", found one and pointed there and it ran. Then, when I tried to run the next rails command, "ruby script\generate scaffold recipe recipe" I could not get it to do anything noticeable at all. Well, I struggled with this until the frustration meter pegged again, so I deleted it all and got a different version of instant rails (from rubyforge). Well, now I can, again, no longer connect to MySQL but this time I cannot run apache from InstantRails.exe either. If I have to spend a week to get the rails version of "hello world" going, I might as well be using Java. I apologize for the exasperation but as wondrous as ruby is linguistically, the gold seems to turn to dross whenever I try to actually do something with it. All academic and theoretical coding exercises are a joy. All attempts at usable programming have been crushing. Ok. Enough of the scream of ultimate anguish. What is the secret and occult mystery of how to get rails to actually do what the tutorial says can be done? What magical piece of the puzzle is omitted that makes it actually work and why has no one else noticed that doing exactly what it says to do will not yield the results promised? At the least, can someone point me to a tutorial that will actually work? I have bought many books on Ruby but none of them work (for me) for anything but snippets of 10 lines or less. Anything that will break the log jam will suffice. I am not asking for anyone to do the work for me. I just want to be able to do the work for myself but rails seems to be fighting me all the way and winning. -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Hi Lloyd, Lloyd Linklater wrote:> I have been trying to get the 30 minutes tutorial > "Rolling with Ruby on Rails revisited" going for > a week now with zero luck. (Actually, I am > trying this at work as I am the one tasked to see > how usable it all is, so it was a work week, meaning > 40ish hours.)<snip>> Ok. Enough of the scream of ultimate anguish.I''m sorry to hear you''ve had difficulty and wish you''d posted to the comments section at OReilly sooner. I still respond to postings there. The difficulties you describe are not unique and most often result from one of two things. First, some folks miss the NOTE: at the top of the tutorial that points out that it''s not updated yet to support Rails 2.x. There are several postings in the comments section where that''s caused readers difficulties that went away when they dropped back to the supported version of InstantRails. Second, if there is another service running on a port that InstantRails uses by default, it won''t be able to start one or both of MySQL or Apache. It often happens, for example, that a reader already has MySQL running as a service and needs to shut it down so that InstantRails can start its own instance. Apache''s not needed at all in a development mode and I always shut it down immediatedly after starting InstantRails. IIRC, the tutorial says to do so, but my memory''s not what it once was ;-)> What is the secret and occult mystery of how to get rails > to actually do what the tutorial says can be done? What > magical piece of the puzzle is omitted that makes it actually > work and why has no one else noticed that doing exactly > what it says to do will not yield the results promised?AFAIK, there''s no mystery. My own journey had its rough spots, but they typically turned out to derive from assumptions about how things work that turn out to work a little differently, albeit much more easily, in Rails. At any rate, I''m happy to help you discover and overcome whatever''s tripping you up. Feel free to post here, on OReilly, or to contact me directly at bill dot walton at charter.net. Best regards, Bill --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
I have tried the approach as spelled out in "Agile Web Development with Rails". I installed ruby, again. Then it said to type this: gem install rails --include-dependencies (page 20) The book then triumphantly declares "congrat-ulations, you are on rails". I get this message: ERROR: While executing gem ... <Gen::RemoteFtecher::FetchError> A connection attempt failed because the connected party did not properly respond after a period of time, or established connection failed because connected host has failed to respond. - connect<2><Errno::ETIMEDOUT> Well, it sounds as if I do not have internet connectivity, which this posting contradicts. I am running out of rails books and tutorials to follow. Can someone point me in the right direction, please? -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Hi Lloyd, Lloyd Linklater wrote:> I have tried the approach as spelled out in "Agile Web Development with > Rails". I installed ruby, again. Then it said to type this: > > gem install rails --include-dependencies > > (page 20) > > The book then triumphantly declares "congrat-ulations, you are on > rails". > I get this message: > > ERROR: While executing gem ... <Gen::RemoteFtecher::FetchError> > A connection attempt failed because the connected party did not properly > respond after a period of time, or established connection failed because > connected host has failed to respond. - connect<2><Errno::ETIMEDOUT>Looks like the remote server timed out. Happens from time to time. Try again. Best regards, Bill --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
I have a fairly detailed intro to Rails that includes setup and a sample project available at http://www.napcs.com/resources/rails/cookbook/index.html. Perhaps that can help you. It''s something I used to use for internal training but I''ve decided to share it with the general public. As you can imagine, it''s gone through several revisions. While it says it works with Rails 2.0.2, it does work for Rails 2.1 as well. Instructions for installing Ruby on Rails and SQLite3 are included. On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 10:09 AM, Lloyd Linklater < rails-mailing-list-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > I have tried the approach as spelled out in "Agile Web Development with > Rails". I installed ruby, again. Then it said to type this: > > gem install rails --include-dependencies > > (page 20) > > The book then triumphantly declares "congrat-ulations, you are on > rails". > I get this message: > > ERROR: While executing gem ... <Gen::RemoteFtecher::FetchError> > A connection attempt failed because the connected party did not properly > respond after a period of time, or established connection failed because > connected host has failed to respond. - connect<2><Errno::ETIMEDOUT> > > Well, it sounds as if I do not have internet connectivity, which this > posting contradicts. > > I am running out of rails books and tutorials to follow. Can someone > point me in the right direction, please? > -- > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > > > >--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Bill Walton wrote:> Hi Lloyd, > > Lloyd Linklater wrote: > >> >> ERROR: While executing gem ... <Gen::RemoteFtecher::FetchError> >> A connection attempt failed because the connected party did not properly >> respond after a period of time, or established connection failed because >> connected host has failed to respond. - connect<2><Errno::ETIMEDOUT> > > Looks like the remote server timed out. Happens from time to time. Try > again. > > Best regards, > BillI tried several times and it is always the same. I am guessing that it is because the firewall requires a username and pw to get onto the internet. (work requirements) If the gem install needs internet access, then, unless I can enter a username and pw, I cannot install. Is there a way to specify such things? -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On 2008-08-21 05:49, Lloyd Linklater wrote:> I tried several times and it is always the same. I am guessing that it > is because the firewall requires a username and pw to get onto the > internet. (work requirements) If the gem install needs internet > access, then, unless I can enter a username and pw, I cannot install. > > Is there a way to specify such things?Yes, environment variables. Google for http_proxy or ftp_proxy. -- Greg Donald --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Greg Donald wrote:> On 2008-08-21 05:49, Lloyd Linklater wrote: >> I tried several times and it is always the same. I am guessing that it >> is because the firewall requires a username and pw to get onto the >> internet. (work requirements) If the gem install needs internet >> access, then, unless I can enter a username and pw, I cannot install. >> >> Is there a way to specify such things? > > Yes, environment variables. Google for http_proxy or ftp_proxy. > > > -- > Greg DonaldI know how to do it with various browsers. How to do it when the command is gem install is not so obvious, or were you making a joke? -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On 22 Aug 2008, at 16:49, Lloyd Linklater wrote:> > Greg Donald wrote: >> On 2008-08-21 05:49, Lloyd Linklater wrote: >>> I tried several times and it is always the same. I am guessing >>> that it >>> is because the firewall requires a username and pw to get onto the >>> internet. (work requirements) If the gem install needs internet >>> access, then, unless I can enter a username and pw, I cannot >>> install. >>> >>> Is there a way to specify such things? >> >> Yes, environment variables. Google for http_proxy or ftp_proxy. >> >> >> -- >> Greg Donald > > I know how to do it with various browsers. How to do it when the > command is gem install is not so obvious, or were you making a joke?if you set the http_proxy environment variable gem should use it Fred --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Frederick Cheung wrote:> On 22 Aug 2008, at 16:49, Lloyd Linklater wrote: > >>>> Is there a way to specify such things? >>> >>> Yes, environment variables. Google for http_proxy or ftp_proxy. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Greg Donald >> >> I know how to do it with various browsers. How to do it when the >> command is gem install is not so obvious, or were you making a joke? > > if you set the http_proxy environment variable gem should use it > > FredThanks Fred! That was what I needed to find this: http://exceptionz.wordpress.com/2008/03/18/run-gem-install-behind-a-firewall-in-windows/ Unfortunately, it did not work for me as the error remains the same, but I appreciate it nonetheless. :) -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Here''s something else to try--execute the command: set http_proxy=http://win_username_here:win_password_here-inxXKwkckLhn/lViM1aH3w@public.gmane.orgrver.here.org:8080 (With appropriate values subbed in for win_username_here & win_password_here & proxy server/port.) at a command prompt immediately prior to calling the ''gem'' command. That works for me... HTH, -Roy -----Original Message----- From: rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org [mailto:rubyonrails-talk@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd Linklater Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 11:48 AM To: rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org Subject: [Rails] Re: Cannot get rails rolling Frederick Cheung wrote:> On 22 Aug 2008, at 16:49, Lloyd Linklater wrote: > >>>> Is there a way to specify such things? >>> >>> Yes, environment variables. Google for http_proxy or ftp_proxy. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Greg Donald >> >> I know how to do it with various browsers. How to do it when the >> command is gem install is not so obvious, or were you making a joke? > > if you set the http_proxy environment variable gem should use it > > FredThanks Fred! That was what I needed to find this: http://exceptionz.wordpress.com/2008/03/18/run-gem-install-behind-a-firewall-in-windows/ Unfortunately, it did not work for me as the error remains the same, but I appreciate it nonetheless. :) -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
If you are using InstantRails on Windows XP and trying to run gem commands from a plain DOS window, you will experience all kinds of problems. Instead, what you want to do is: 1. Start InstantRails (I am assuming you are using InstantRails 2?). 2. Open up the InstantRails console 3. Click on I to display the menu choices 4. Select Rails Applications followed by Ruby Console 5. You should see a DOS window with the current directory as C:\..\rails_apps 6. Use this window to run your gem commands since all kinds of environment variables are automatically set for you here 7. A few times I have experienced time-out errors 8. However, if it persists then the problem is definitely in the proxy settings to prove it to yourself, take your laptop to some other place out of your office (home may be?) and try to execute the gem commands as explained above. If you are successful then the problem is in your proxy settings. Let us know how it goes -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Another option to throw out there is to look at using the "Ruby & Rails Developer Bundle" from EnterpriseDB (PostgreSQL w/addons). It contains the entire Ruby/Rails stack on top of PostgreSQL (which I''ll argue is a better db..) Not tried it on Windows, but they have a release here: "Ruby & Rails Developer Bundle" * http://www.enterprisedb.com/products/download.do Then try to build one of the tutorial apps. Best of luck! Cheers, Robby On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 7:21 AM, Lloyd Linklater <rails-mailing-list-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > I have been trying to get the 30 minutes tutorial "Rolling with Ruby on > Rails revisited" going for a week now with zero luck. (Actually, I am > trying this at work as I am the one tasked to see how usable it all is, > so it was a work week, meaning 40ish hours.) > > I got instant rails, as the tutorial said I should, but it could not > connect to MySQL. I changed this and that and got it to connect. Then, > I could not get it to generate the new application. (That is the part > where I type in "rails cookbook2". The problem was that, if I typed it > in at the location given, it could not find the correct thing to run as > if there was a pathing problem. I searched for executables called > "rails", found one and pointed there and it ran. Then, when I tried to > run the next rails command, "ruby script\generate scaffold recipe > recipe" I could not get it to do anything noticeable at all. Well, I > struggled with this until the frustration meter pegged again, so I > deleted it all and got a different version of instant rails (from > rubyforge). > > Well, now I can, again, no longer connect to MySQL but this time I > cannot run apache from InstantRails.exe either. > > If I have to spend a week to get the rails version of "hello world" > going, I might as well be using Java. I apologize for the exasperation > but as wondrous as ruby is linguistically, the gold seems to turn to > dross whenever I try to actually do something with it. All academic and > theoretical coding exercises are a joy. All attempts at usable > programming have been crushing. > > Ok. Enough of the scream of ultimate anguish. > > What is the secret and occult mystery of how to get rails to actually do > what the tutorial says can be done? What magical piece of the puzzle is > omitted that makes it actually work and why has no one else noticed that > doing exactly what it says to do will not yield the results promised? > > At the least, can someone point me to a tutorial that will actually > work? I have bought many books on Ruby but none of them work (for me) > for anything but snippets of 10 lines or less. Anything that will break > the log jam will suffice. I am not asking for anyone to do the work for > me. I just want to be able to do the work for myself but rails seems to > be fighting me all the way and winning. > -- > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > > > >-- Robby Russell Chief Evangelist, Partner PLANET ARGON, LLC design // development // hosting http://www.planetargon.com/ http://www.robbyonrails.com/ aim: planetargon +1 503 445 2457 +1 877 55 ARGON [toll free] +1 815 642 4068 [fax] --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---