One of ActiveRecord''s greatest strengthes is its fluidity. Change a col in your db, restart, wham!, new class. This type of behavior is great for *internal* code. But for published interfaces, it''s the exact opposite of what you want. Let''s say I have a calendar web app, and expose a web service - via ActiveResource - for you to hook in your local GUI app (or command line app, or complenetary web app, or whatever you use ActiveResource for): How would you feel if your GUI app broke every time I refactored? How would I feel if I couldn''t refactor because doing so will break all those GUIs? Thought so. A web service interface needs to be stable, hiding the implementation and any changes in it. It needs to be *decoupled* from changes ot the internal schema. Rails is built on _extraction_. It seems to me that ActiveResource - along with all the upcoming REST pixie dust - has been dreamt up before actually being used in succesful apps. Is there any publically available app exposing an ActiveResource api? Does it have any external clients? I''m all for REST, and I''d love to see a RESTful competitor to SOAP, but it needs to be stable, static, decoupled from internals, and discoverable via something like WSDL (yes, WSDL can be used for REST too.) I think the Rails community is the best posed to make it happen - but not like this. (I''ll end my comments by pointing out that I think Rails is great. I hope my constructive criticism is received in the spirit it''s intended.) --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---