Rails - Nov 2006 - [OT] What''s the best way to install ruby/rails on Mac OS X?

Hello folks,

I''ve newly bought a Mac and am new to it. I want to install Ruby on
Rails on it (Ruby, Rails, SVN, Apache, MySQL, ...) but I''m not sure
which way is the best.

Should I go for Fink? OpenDarwin? Or just install them directly on mac.

What about something in Fink, something in OpenDarwin and something directly?

I''m a bit confused, may you please give me a clue on how to prepare my
mac for coding?

Thanks in advance,
- Dunnil

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Hi Human,

2006/8/28, Human Dunnil
<h.dunnil-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>:
> I''ve newly bought a Mac and am new to it. I want to install Ruby
on
> Rails on it (Ruby, Rails, SVN, Apache, MySQL, ...) but I''m not
sure
> which way is the best.
>
> Should I go for Fink? OpenDarwin? Or just install them directly on mac.
Try this one:
http://hivelogic.com/articles/2005/12/01/ruby_rails_lighttpd_mysql_tiger

lasts a little, but works like a charm.
If you just want to try out rails, use Locomotive.

Beate

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On 8/28/06, Human Dunnil
<h.dunnil-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
wrote:
>
> Hello folks,
>
> I''ve newly bought a Mac and am new to it. I want to install Ruby
on
> Rails on it (Ruby, Rails, SVN, Apache, MySQL, ...) but I''m not
sure
> which way is the best.
>
> Should I go for Fink? OpenDarwin? Or just install them directly on mac.
>
> What about something in Fink, something in OpenDarwin and something
directly?
>
Using opendarwin (now macports) here, and it''s working great.

I''m new to macs and never tried fink, but afaik port is the the
standard package manager on freebsd, thus probably not a bad choice.
It has subversion, apache 2.2.2, ruby, rubygems, postgres and anything
else i''ve needed.

Followed the recipe on
http://www.nshb.net/install-ruby-and-rails-on-mac-intel . (stopped
after installing postgres. don''t want/need fcgi/lighty/mysql/apache on
my dev box.)


Isak



> I''m a bit confused, may you please give me a clue on how to
prepare my
> mac for coding?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> - Dunnil
>
> >
>
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Hello Human,

Try this one:
> http://hivelogic.com/articles/2005/12/01/ruby_rails_lighttpd_mysql_tiger
>
> lasts a little, but works like a charm.
> If you just want to try out rails, use Locomotive.
>
> Beate

I can totally agree with Beate. That article helped a lot when i started
with RoR.

Tino


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If you are in a hurry, you can also use Locomotive:

http://locomotive.raaum.org/

which is as easily installed as any other OSX app and also doesnt change 
your system in any way (not that permanently installing ruby would be a 
bad thing ^^)

Now you only need Mysql, get the OSX package from mysql.com

The only real downside with this is, imo, that you dont nearly learn as 
much as when you install RoR manually.

bye
Daniel

(whose apostrophe key just stopped working, sorry for that...)

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Tino Breddin wrote:
> Hello Human,
> 
> Try this one:
>>
http://hivelogic.com/articles/2005/12/01/ruby_rails_lighttpd_mysql_tiger
>>
>> lasts a little, but works like a charm.
>> If you just want to try out rails, use Locomotive.
>>
>> Beate
> 
> 
> I can totally agree with Beate. That article helped a lot when i started
> with RoR.
> 
> Tino
I just followed the article for a second time (got a new MBP!).  Two
small tips.  Consider using MySQL version 5.  Also, you need to use
update the PATH twice.  Consider doing it just once by following the
instructions at the end.  If you update it twice, you will need to issue
the command to update the path in your active terminal session twice.

Bill

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i seconded the hivelogic tutorial. if i can do it, anybody can!

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Here''s a guide I wrote (heavily influenced by the hivelogic one). 
http://blog.tuples.us/?page_id=7

You''ll only need the first part.  The second part is for deploying to 
textdrive.

I really don''t like fink, opendarwin, or anything like that.  This
guide
installs everything you need without those tools.

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On 8/28/06, Human Dunnil
<h.dunnil-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
wrote:
>
> I''ve newly bought a Mac and am new to it. I want to install Ruby
on
> Rails on it (Ruby, Rails, SVN, Apache, MySQL, ...) but I''m not
sure
> which way is the best.
> [...]
historically i have followed james duncan davidson''s article
"Sandboxing Rails with Darwin Ports" :
	<http://duncandavidson.com/essay/2006/04/portsandbox>

james also offers some commentary on installing via package management
vs. by-hand.

the topic in general has been discussed a gazallion times on the (old)
list before, it might be wise to search the archives and see what you
can scare up.

regards,
jean-pierre

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Thank you all guys.

I got my answer, but I like to know is it possible to have for example
Ruby installed directly, MySQL from OpenDarwin and Apache from Fink?
Can they work together seamlessly? Or if I chose one, I should go only
with that?

Thanks,
- Dunnil

On 8/28/06, jeanpierre-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
<jeanpierre-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
wrote:
>
> On 8/28/06, Human Dunnil
<h.dunnil-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >
> > I''ve newly bought a Mac and am new to it. I want to install
Ruby on
> > Rails on it (Ruby, Rails, SVN, Apache, MySQL, ...) but I''m
not sure
> > which way is the best.
> > [...]
>
> historically i have followed james duncan davidson''s article
> "Sandboxing Rails with Darwin Ports" :
>         <http://duncandavidson.com/essay/2006/04/portsandbox>
>
> james also offers some commentary on installing via package management
> vs. by-hand.
>
> the topic in general has been discussed a gazallion times on the (old)
> list before, it might be wise to search the archives and see what you
> can scare up.
>
> regards,
> jean-pierre
>
> >
>
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On 8/29/06, Human Dunnil
<h.dunnil-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
wrote:
>
>
> I got my answer, but I like to know is it possible to have for example
> Ruby installed directly, MySQL from OpenDarwin and Apache from Fink?
> Can they work together seamlessly? Or if I chose one, I should go only
> with that?

Just pick one and go with it, I see no reason why you would need to use all
3.  In fact you lose the whole advantage of letting a package-mgmt system
run dependencie management for you when you start picking and choosing like
that.

Josh


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Hello folks,

I''ve newly bought a Mac and am new to it. I want to install Ruby on
Rails on it (Ruby, Rails, SVN, Apache, MySQL, ...) but I''m not sure
which way is the best.

Should I go for Fink? OpenDarwin? Or just install them directly on mac.

What about something in Fink, something in OpenDarwin and something directly?

I''m a bit confused, may you please give me a clue on how to prepare my
mac for coding?

Thanks in advance,
- Dunnil