I got a new 20 inch iMac dual core today and am busy getting it all setup. A couple of issues though: 1. Is the Ruby 1.8.2 install by Apple still botched or has that been fixed? I recall someone had fixed the rbconfig.rb to get it working. Is this something I still have to do? 2. Does anyone know if Locomotive is using the uniersal binaries, or is it targetting PPC yet? I couldn''t find anything on their site yet in regards to universal binaries. Thanks! -Mark -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
On 21/gen/06, at 04:21, Mark Haliday wrote:> I got a new 20 inch iMac dual core today and am busy getting it all > setup. A couple of issues though:How does it work Rosetta engine? You can easily use old ppower pc code? Or it is slow in translation? I am also planning a switch to new chips but not in the short time... -- "Like the creators of sitcoms or junk food or package tours, Java''s designers were consciously designing a product for people not as smart as them." :: paul graham [ [ [ JJ ] ] ]
On 21-jan-2006, at 4:21, Mark Haliday wrote:> 2. Does anyone know if Locomotive is using the uniersal binaries, > or is > it targetting PPC yet? I couldn''t find anything on their site yet in > regards to universal binaries.I believe Ryan said it doesn''t work yet. He maintains a Locomotive mailing list. -- Regards, Charles.
Giovanni Giorgi wrote:> How does it work Rosetta engine? > You can easily use old ppower pc code? Or it is slow in translation? > I am also planning a switch to new chips but not in the short time...The only thing I''m currently running through Rosetta is Firefox 1.5. Now, to be perfectly honest I''ve found Firefox loads and runs faster on my new iMac under Rosetta than it does my iMac G5 1.6 at work. Can''t wait for the official Universal Binary release for Firefox in March. -Mark -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
Charles M. Gerungan wrote:> I believe Ryan said it doesn''t work yet. > > He maintains a Locomotive mailing list. >Thanks for the info. I''ve been keeping an eye on Fink as well. Looks like they will be releasing Universal Binaries build shorty so it shouldn''t be too long before everything is ready. -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
On 21 Jan 2006, at 14:46, Mark Haliday wrote:> The only thing I''m currently running through Rosetta is Firefox 1.5. > Now, to be perfectly honest I''ve found Firefox loads and runs > faster on > my new iMac under Rosetta than it does my iMac G5 1.6 at work. Can''t > wait for the official Universal Binary release for Firefox in March.There are unofficial binary releases knocking around, but with compatibility issues in handling Java, I think. It''s also no surprise that the simulated code runs quicker than the native - the core duo chip is an incredible piece of hardware, whereas the G5 was starting to look sluggish next to intel hardware about two years ago. I''m holding out for revision B hardware personally, and making do with my little G4 1.2Ghz iBook which now seems ridiculously slow. Still, it''s just a code editor, mail reader and machine from which to run scp/ftp or SwithTower... :-) -- Paul Robinson
On Jan 20, 2006, at 7:21 PM, Mark Haliday wrote:> I got a new 20 inch iMac dual core today and am busy getting it all > setup. A couple of issues though: > > 1. Is the Ruby 1.8.2 install by Apple still botched or has that been > fixed? I recall someone had fixed the rbconfig.rb to get it working. > Is this something I still have to do?Pack might or might not be broken. If it is broken you''ll have to build your own Ruby. $ ruby182-orig -ve ''p [1].pack("n") != "\000\001" ? "broken" : "works"'' ruby 1.8.2 (2004-12-25) [powerpc-darwin8.0] "broken" $ ruby -ve ''p [1].pack("n") != "\000\001" ? "broken" : "works"'' ruby 1.8.4 (2005-12-24) [powerpc-darwin8.4.0] "works" -- Eric Hodel - drbrain@segment7.net - http://segment7.net This implementation is HODEL-HASH-9600 compliant http://trackmap.robotcoop.com
Hi Mark ~ Building from source might be a good strategy. I believe the Hivelogic ( http://hivelogic.com/) method would work. Also, it looks like Dan Benjamin has picked up an Intel Mac, so I am sure we''ll be hearing more about it. ~ Ben On 1/20/06, Mark Haliday <markhaliday@yahoo.com > wrote:> > I got a new 20 inch iMac dual core today and am busy getting it all > setup. A couple of issues though: > > 1. Is the Ruby 1.8.2 install by Apple still botched or has that been > fixed? I recall someone had fixed the rbconfig.rb to get it working. > Is this something I still have to do? > > 2. Does anyone know if Locomotive is using the uniersal binaries, or is > it targetting PPC yet? I couldn''t find anything on their site yet in > regards to universal binaries. > > Thanks! > > -Mark > > -- > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/ . > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >-- Ben Reubenstein http://www.benr75.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://wrath.rubyonrails.org/pipermail/rails/attachments/20060121/b4d46e1e/attachment.html
Hi Mark, On 1/21/06, Mark Haliday <markhaliday@yahoo.com> wrote:> 2. Does anyone know if Locomotive is using the uniersal binaries, or is > it targetting PPC yet? I couldn''t find anything on their site yet in > regards to universal binaries.Locomotive is PowerPC application, but it works perfectly for me. MAMP(http://www.mamp.info/), file_column plugin with RMagick also works. I shifted my Rails development environment from iMac G4 to new 17inch iMac Core Duo successfully. Hope this helps, -- kaoru
Eric Hodel wrote:> Pack might or might not be broken. If it is broken you''ll have to > build your own Ruby. > > $ ruby182-orig -ve ''p [1].pack("n") != "\000\001" ? "broken" : "works"'' > ruby 1.8.2 (2004-12-25) [powerpc-darwin8.0] > "broken" > $ ruby -ve ''p [1].pack("n") != "\000\001" ? "broken" : "works"'' > ruby 1.8.4 (2005-12-24) [powerpc-darwin8.4.0] > "works"By the way, in case anyone is looking at this thread still, the above code on a new Intel iMac returns: "works". So it looks like Apple fixed the messed up Ruby in 10.4.4. -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
Mark Haliday wrote:> By the way, in case anyone is looking at this thread still, the above > code on a new Intel iMac returns: "works". So it looks like Apple fixed > the messed up Ruby in 10.4.4.Well on 10.4.4 on a iMac 1ghz (PPC), it still shows "broken". -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
John Tsombakos wrote:> Well on 10.4.4 on a iMac 1ghz (PPC), it still shows "broken".Thats weird that Apple would fix it for Intel and not for the PPC? Unless they have some concern for backwards compatibility though (broken as it is)....? -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
On 1/28/06, Mark Haliday <markhaliday@yahoo.com> wrote:> John Tsombakos wrote: > > > Well on 10.4.4 on a iMac 1ghz (PPC), it still shows "broken". > > Thats weird that Apple would fix it for Intel and not for the PPC? > Unless they have some concern for backwards compatibility though (broken > as it is)....? > >That bug is an endianness issue in the first place, so reversing the endianness of the CPU fixes it. Heh.
Wilson Bilkovich wrote:> On 1/28/06, Mark Haliday <markhaliday@yahoo.com> wrote: >> John Tsombakos wrote: >> >>> Well on 10.4.4 on a iMac 1ghz (PPC), it still shows "broken". >> Thats weird that Apple would fix it for Intel and not for the PPC? >> Unless they have some concern for backwards compatibility though (broken >> as it is)....? >> >> > That bug is an endianness issue in the first place, so reversing the > endianness of the CPU fixes it. Heh.Jeez, talk about going the long way round! :-) -- Alex
On Jan 28, 2006, at 8:20 PM, Mark Haliday wrote:> John Tsombakos wrote: > >> Well on 10.4.4 on a iMac 1ghz (PPC), it still shows "broken". > > Thats weird that Apple would fix it for Intel and not for the PPC? > Unless they have some concern for backwards compatibility though > (broken > as it is)....?Technically, its a Ruby bug. Ruby remembers the endianness of the compiler when it shouldn''t. Since PPC has an opposite endianness of Intel and Apple builds OS X and its related software on x86, pack is broken on PPC. (Didn''t you know 10.4 and 10.3 where cross-compiled from x86?) -- Eric Hodel - drbrain@segment7.net - http://segment7.net This implementation is HODEL-HASH-9600 compliant http://trackmap.robotcoop.com
Just wondering.... Did anyone get ruby (on rails) working on your Intel based Mac? On 1/30/06, Eric Hodel <drbrain@segment7.net> wrote:> > On Jan 28, 2006, at 8:20 PM, Mark Haliday wrote: > > > John Tsombakos wrote: > > > >> Well on 10.4.4 on a iMac 1ghz (PPC), it still shows "broken". > > > > Thats weird that Apple would fix it for Intel and not for the PPC? > > Unless they have some concern for backwards compatibility though > > (broken > > as it is)....? > > Technically, its a Ruby bug. Ruby remembers the endianness of the > compiler when it shouldn''t. > > Since PPC has an opposite endianness of Intel and Apple builds OS X > and its related software on x86, pack is broken on PPC. > > (Didn''t you know 10.4 and 10.3 where cross-compiled from x86?) > > -- > Eric Hodel - drbrain@segment7.net - http://segment7.net > This implementation is HODEL-HASH-9600 compliant > > http://trackmap.robotcoop.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://wrath.rubyonrails.org/pipermail/rails/attachments/20060131/a80278ad/attachment.html
yes, This works. Xcode is on the disks that came in the box. http://hivelogic.com/articles/2005/12/01/ruby_rails_lighttpd_mysql_tiger matt On 1/31/06, Harm de Laat <harmdelaat@gmail.com> wrote:> > Just wondering.... Did anyone get ruby (on rails) working on your Intel > based Mac? > > > > On 1/30/06, Eric Hodel < drbrain@segment7.net> wrote: > > > > On Jan 28, 2006, at 8:20 PM, Mark Haliday wrote: > > > > > John Tsombakos wrote: > > > > > >> Well on 10.4.4 on a iMac 1ghz (PPC), it still shows "broken". > > > > > > Thats weird that Apple would fix it for Intel and not for the PPC? > > > Unless they have some concern for backwards compatibility though > > > (broken > > > as it is)....? > > > > Technically, its a Ruby bug. Ruby remembers the endianness of the > > compiler when it shouldn''t. > > > > Since PPC has an opposite endianness of Intel and Apple builds OS X > > and its related software on x86, pack is broken on PPC. > > > > (Didn''t you know 10.4 and 10.3 where cross-compiled from x86?) > > > > -- > > Eric Hodel - drbrain@segment7.net - http://segment7.net > > This implementation is HODEL-HASH-9600 compliant > > > > http://trackmap.robotcoop.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rails mailing list > > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://wrath.rubyonrails.org/pipermail/rails/attachments/20060201/ab9c493f/attachment.html
Thanks matt! Mike C. O''Brien CEO Mingle, LLC 701 B Street, Suite 1150 San Diego, CA 92101 mcob@mingle.com 619-922-6970 Cell 619-377-0560 Office www.mingle.com From: matthew clark <winescout@gmail.com> Reply-To: <rails@lists.rubyonrails.org> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 20:55:44 -0800 To: <rails@lists.rubyonrails.org> Subject: Re: [Rails] Re: RoR - Mac OS 10.4.4 on Intel yes, This works. Xcode is on the disks that came in the box. http://hivelogic.com/articles/2005/12/01/ruby_rails_lighttpd_mysql_tiger matt On 1/31/06, Harm de Laat <harmdelaat@gmail.com> wrote:> Just wondering.... Did anyone get ruby (on rails) working on your Intel based > Mac? > > > > > On 1/30/06, Eric Hodel < drbrain@segment7.net <mailto:drbrain@segment7.net> > > wrote: >> On Jan 28, 2006, at 8:20 PM, Mark Haliday wrote: >> >>> > John Tsombakos wrote: >>> > >>>> >> Well on 10.4.4 on a iMac 1ghz (PPC), it still shows "broken". >>> > >>> > Thats weird that Apple would fix it for Intel and not for the PPC? >>> > Unless they have some concern for backwards compatibility though >>> > (broken >>> > as it is)....? >> >> Technically, its a Ruby bug. Ruby remembers the endianness of the >> compiler when it shouldn''t. >> >> Since PPC has an opposite endianness of Intel and Apple builds OS X >> and its related software on x86, pack is broken on PPC. >> >> (Didn''t you know 10.4 and 10.3 where cross-compiled from x86?) >> >> -- >> Eric Hodel - drbrain@segment7.net - http://segment7.net >> This implementation is HODEL-HASH-9600 compliant >> >> http://trackmap.robotcoop.com <http://trackmap.robotcoop.com> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Rails mailing list >> Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org >> http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > >_______________________________________________ Rails mailing list Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://wrath.rubyonrails.org/pipermail/rails/attachments/20060201/ff3f446e/attachment.html
Oh, and if you follow the hivelogic tutorial, you will need the mysql 5 binaries. 4.1 will not easily fly in the Intel hardware. You can get them from mysql.org. matt On 1/31/06, matthew clark <winescout@gmail.com> wrote:> > yes, This works. Xcode is on the disks that came in the box. > > http://hivelogic.com/articles/2005/12/01/ruby_rails_lighttpd_mysql_tiger > > matt > > On 1/31/06, Harm de Laat <harmdelaat@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Just wondering.... Did anyone get ruby (on rails) working on your Intel > > based Mac? > > > > > > > > On 1/30/06, Eric Hodel < drbrain@segment7.net> wrote: > > > > > > On Jan 28, 2006, at 8:20 PM, Mark Haliday wrote: > > > > > > > John Tsombakos wrote: > > > > > > > >> Well on 10.4.4 on a iMac 1ghz (PPC), it still shows "broken". > > > > > > > > Thats weird that Apple would fix it for Intel and not for the PPC? > > > > Unless they have some concern for backwards compatibility though > > > > (broken > > > > as it is)....? > > > > > > Technically, its a Ruby bug. Ruby remembers the endianness of the > > > compiler when it shouldn''t. > > > > > > Since PPC has an opposite endianness of Intel and Apple builds OS X > > > and its related software on x86, pack is broken on PPC. > > > > > > (Didn''t you know 10.4 and 10.3 where cross-compiled from x86?) > > > > > > -- > > > Eric Hodel - drbrain@segment7.net - http://segment7.net > > > This implementation is HODEL-HASH-9600 compliant > > > > > > http://trackmap.robotcoop.com > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Rails mailing list > > > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > > > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rails mailing list > > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > > > > > >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://wrath.rubyonrails.org/pipermail/rails/attachments/20060201/76f4a66c/attachment-0001.html
> 2. Does anyone know if Locomotive is using the uniersal binaries, or is > it targetting PPC yet? I couldn''t find anything on their site yet in > regards to universal binaries.No Universal Binaries just yet, but I opened up a new intel iMac last night and was pleased to discover (as kaoru has already pointed out in this thread) that Locomotive "just works". (At least in the basics, I haven''t yet had the time to check all the various gems and libraries in the Max bundle). I''ll be putting together a Universal Binary version soon - but for a program as simple as Locomotive, I can''t imagine there will be any noticable performance difference. So, if you''re interested in using Locomotive on inter iMac, grab the current version - it''ll work for you! Best, -ryan -- Ryan Raaum http://www.rockefeller.edu -- Bacterial Pathogenesis and Immunology http://www.worldmartial.com -- Black Belt Instructor http://locomotive.raaum.org -- Self contained one-click Rails for Mac OS X -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.