Michael Watson
2006-May-26 20:48 UTC
[Rails] ROR website''s weblog not viewable on internet explorer
Does anyone know why the weblog at weblog.rubyonrails.org is often messed up, with the first or first and second topics left-shifted and melded with the Rails logo, the Live Search box and the page''s menu? This happens on all my boxes that run Internet Explorer 6 (IE6). I checked it on Firefox and the page appears correctly. While it''s easy to argue "just use Firefox", a whole bunch of people still use IE6 most of the time. Having the Rails weblog (which is linked from the main menu on the Rails website) appear messed up for everyone who visits looks more than a little unprofessional and tarnishes the image of Rails as a web application platform. Cheers! Michael W. -- Posted via ruby-forum.com.
Aaron Kulbe
2006-May-26 23:17 UTC
[Rails] ROR website''s weblog not viewable on internet explorer
On 5/26/06, Michael Watson <michael@pdragon.com> wrote:> > Does anyone know why the weblog at weblog.rubyonrails.org is > often messed up, with the first or first and second topics left-shifted > and melded with the Rails logo, the Live Search box and the page''s menu? > > This happens on all my boxes that run Internet Explorer 6 (IE6). I > checked it on Firefox and the page appears correctly. While it''s easy > to argue "just use Firefox", a whole bunch of people still use IE6 most > of the time. Having the Rails weblog (which is linked from the main > menu on the Rails website) appear messed up for everyone who visits > looks more than a little unprofessional and tarnishes the image of Rails > as a web application platform.And you think this is the fault of the author of the page, rather that the non-compliant browser you''re using? Interesting. :) Cheers!> > Michael W. > > -- > Posted via ruby-forum.com. > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: wrath.rubyonrails.org/pipermail/rails/attachments/20060526/95c3dedd/attachment-0001.html
Nate Davis
2006-May-27 03:17 UTC
[Rails] Re: ROR website''s weblog not viewable on internet explorer
Aaron Kulbe wrote:> On 5/26/06, Michael Watson <michael@pdragon.com> wrote: >> looks more than a little unprofessional and tarnishes the image of Rails >> as a web application platform. > > > > And you think this is the fault of the author of the page, rather that > the > non-compliant browser you''re using? > > Interesting. :) > > > Cheers!Just curious - What things is IE non-compliant in (specifically IE6)? What standards? I don''t doubt it, I just don''t really know. Please enlighten me. -- Posted via ruby-forum.com.
Daniel Higginbotham
2006-May-27 03:21 UTC
[Rails] ROR website''s weblog not viewable on internet explorer
I think this picture might help you understand: flickr.com/photos/planetargon/127984254 :) -----Original Message----- From: rails-bounces@lists.rubyonrails.org [mailto:rails-bounces@lists.rubyonrails.org] On Behalf Of Michael Watson Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 10:48 AM To: rails@lists.rubyonrails.org Subject: [Rails] ROR website''s weblog not viewable on internet explorer Does anyone know why the weblog at weblog.rubyonrails.org is often messed up, with the first or first and second topics left-shifted and melded with the Rails logo, the Live Search box and the page''s menu? This happens on all my boxes that run Internet Explorer 6 (IE6). I checked it on Firefox and the page appears correctly. While it''s easy to argue "just use Firefox", a whole bunch of people still use IE6 most of the time. Having the Rails weblog (which is linked from the main menu on the Rails website) appear messed up for everyone who visits looks more than a little unprofessional and tarnishes the image of Rails as a web application platform. Cheers! Michael W. -- Posted via ruby-forum.com. _______________________________________________ Rails mailing list Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails
Craig White
2006-May-27 04:03 UTC
[Rails] ROR website''s weblog not viewable on internet explorer
I''m quite sure that wasn''t the point that David was trying to make. I would prefer that if you don''t like the question that you simply move on rather than inject the nasty tone onto the list. Craig On Fri, 2006-05-26 at 17:21 -1000, Daniel Higginbotham wrote:> I think this picture might help you understand: > > flickr.com/photos/planetargon/127984254 > > :) > > -----Original Message----- > From: rails-bounces@lists.rubyonrails.org > [mailto:rails-bounces@lists.rubyonrails.org] On Behalf Of Michael Watson > Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 10:48 AM > To: rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > Subject: [Rails] ROR website''s weblog not viewable on internet explorer > > Does anyone know why the weblog at weblog.rubyonrails.org is > often messed up, with the first or first and second topics left-shifted > and melded with the Rails logo, the Live Search box and the page''s menu? > > This happens on all my boxes that run Internet Explorer 6 (IE6). I > checked it on Firefox and the page appears correctly. While it''s easy > to argue "just use Firefox", a whole bunch of people still use IE6 most > of the time. Having the Rails weblog (which is linked from the main > menu on the Rails website) appear messed up for everyone who visits > looks more than a little unprofessional and tarnishes the image of Rails > as a web application platform. > > Cheers! > > Michael W. >
Daniel Higginbotham
2006-May-27 04:13 UTC
[Rails] ROR website''s weblog not viewable on internet explorer
I''m also quite sure it wasn''t the point David was trying to make, and I meant it only as a joke - sorry! It''s obvious that my intentions weren''t clear. In fact, I wasn''t trying to drop the f-bomb on some fellow I don''t know. I think the lack of support for IE6 on that site is probably consistent with what I believe was going on in that picture. Again, sorry! I really didn''t mean to inject a nasty tone onto the list. Really, I''d like to have all the sites I work on redirect IE Mac users to the photo. And all clients who insist that IE Mac be supported. Daniel -----Original Message----- From: rails-bounces@lists.rubyonrails.org [mailto:rails-bounces@lists.rubyonrails.org] On Behalf Of Craig White Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 6:03 PM To: rails@lists.rubyonrails.org Subject: RE: [Rails] ROR website''s weblog not viewable on internet explorer I''m quite sure that wasn''t the point that David was trying to make. I would prefer that if you don''t like the question that you simply move on rather than inject the nasty tone onto the list. Craig On Fri, 2006-05-26 at 17:21 -1000, Daniel Higginbotham wrote:> I think this picture might help you understand: > > flickr.com/photos/planetargon/127984254 > > :) > > -----Original Message----- > From: rails-bounces@lists.rubyonrails.org > [mailto:rails-bounces@lists.rubyonrails.org] On Behalf Of Michael Watson > Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 10:48 AM > To: rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > Subject: [Rails] ROR website''s weblog not viewable on internet explorer > > Does anyone know why the weblog at weblog.rubyonrails.org is > often messed up, with the first or first and second topics left-shifted > and melded with the Rails logo, the Live Search box and the page''s menu? > > This happens on all my boxes that run Internet Explorer 6 (IE6). I > checked it on Firefox and the page appears correctly. While it''s easy > to argue "just use Firefox", a whole bunch of people still use IE6 most > of the time. Having the Rails weblog (which is linked from the main > menu on the Rails website) appear messed up for everyone who visits > looks more than a little unprofessional and tarnishes the image of Rails > as a web application platform. > > Cheers! > > Michael W. >_______________________________________________ Rails mailing list Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails
Jakob Skjerning
2006-May-27 10:26 UTC
[Rails] ROR website''s weblog not viewable on internet explorer
>> Does anyone know why the weblog at weblog.rubyonrails.org is >> often messed up, with the first or first and second topics left-shifted >> and melded with the Rails logo, the Live Search box and the page''s menu?[...]> And you think this is the fault of the author of the page, rather that the > non-compliant browser you''re using?No matter whose fault it is, it does reflect poorly on the author and the organisation. And the weblog does look bad in IE6 at the moment. That said, I am sure the team would appreciate any concrete corrections to the CSS and markup, perhaps even as a patch somehow, since none of them are on Windows, let alone using IE6. -- Jakob Skjerning - mentalized.net
Alder Green
2006-May-27 10:54 UTC
[Rails] ROR website''s weblog not viewable on internet explorer
On 5/26/06, Michael Watson <michael@pdragon.com> wrote:> Does anyone know why the weblog at weblog.rubyonrails.org is > often messed up, with the first or first and second topics left-shifted > and melded with the Rails logo, the Live Search box and the page''s menu? > > This happens on all my boxes that run Internet Explorer 6 (IE6). I > checked it on Firefox and the page appears correctly. While it''s easy > to argue "just use Firefox", a whole bunch of people still use IE6 most > of the time. Having the Rails weblog (which is linked from the main > menu on the Rails website) appear messed up for everyone who visits > looks more than a little unprofessional and tarnishes the image of Rails > as a web application platform. > > Cheers! > > Michael W. > > -- > Posted via ruby-forum.com. > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >The blog engine used for the Riding Rails is called Typo. I''ve seen some problems with Typo blogs on MSIE in the past, though I''m not sure if it''s any default stylesheet packaged with the blog, a custom stylesheet supplied by the blogger, or a combination of both. I certainly agree that this issue should be addressed. It might be helpful to provide image screenshots of the faulty rendering on vanilla MSIE 6. -- -Alder
Sven Fuchs
2006-May-27 11:15 UTC
[Rails] ROR website''s weblog not viewable on internet explorer
Jakob Skjerning schrieb:>>> Does anyone know why the weblog at weblog.rubyonrails.org is >>> often messed up, with the first or first and second topics left-shifted >>> and melded with the Rails logo, the Live Search box and the page''s menu? > [...] > >> And you think this is the fault of the author of the page, rather that >> the >> non-compliant browser you''re using? > > No matter whose fault it is, it does reflect poorly on the author and > the organisation. And the weblog does look bad in IE6 at the moment. > > That said, I am sure the team would appreciate any concrete corrections > to the CSS and markup, perhaps even as a patch somehow, since none of > them are on Windows, let alone using IE6.The problem is the long URL in one of the posts ("Dan Webb''s Request Routing Plugin") which exceeds the right border of the content div. This causes IE to stretch the div. As simple as that. Can be fixed by adding overflow: hidden; to the #content rule in rails.rss, line 144. This will trunk the URL of course, so probably it should be reverted for any other browser than IE by something like html > body #content { overflow: visible; } -- Sven
Rimantas Liubertas
2006-May-27 11:21 UTC
[Rails] ROR website''s weblog not viewable on internet explorer
<...>> That said, I am sure the team would appreciate any concrete corrections > to the CSS and markup, perhaps even as a patch somehow, since none of > them are on Windows, let alone using IE6.Site breaks because of a bit of markup in entry "Dan Webb''s Request Routing Plugin". The bit to blame is: <pre><code>ruby script/plugin install \ svn.vivabit.net/external/rubylibs/request_routing</code></pre> It gets too wide and pushes everything to the left in IE (in FF it just sticks out to the right). Possible fixes: a) decrease the size for the <code> font, it is now 120%. (100% is ok, unless you increase font size in your browser). b) drop this into CSS: pre { width: 100%; overflow: auto; /* or ''scroll'' instead of auto */ } Version b) produces ugly scrolling box if conent does not fit, but at least is does not break layout. Regards, Rimantas -- rimantas.com
Michael Watson
2006-May-27 14:01 UTC
[Rails] Re: ROR website''s weblog not viewable on internet explorer
Thanks for the responses, guys. I was going to try to fix it myself today and post the fix for possible inclusion, but several of you beat me to it. Occasionally layout is perfectly preserved on the site, but breakage has been pretty common over the last several months. I''ve taken to browsing the site with Firefox, but I am working to introduce Rails to a bunch of folks I work with, and they mostly use IE6 (hence my original post). Who can make the fixes to the CSS for the site? Cheers, all, and thanks again. Michael W. -- Posted via ruby-forum.com.