Rails - Apr 2006 - Installation of Rails without ''gem install rails''

I am wondering if anyone has any procedural documentation for installing 
and using  Rails from the standalone packages rather then via ''gem 
install''. It seems there should be some steps outside of simply 
unpacking the tar ball in order to integate it with your Ruby 
installation. Seems every bit of installation documentation I can find 
has ''gem install rails'' as the step for deploying Rails.

Thanks,
Devin Kramer

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there isn''t much to document. once you untar the standalone package,  
all the rails stuff is included in /vendor/rails. if you want to  
install all the components, you can go into each directory and run  
the setup.rb or install.rb scripts. each comes with a readme, so you  
might want to take a look.

-tak.

On Apr 13, 2006, at 12:01 PM, Devin Kramer wrote:
> I am wondering if anyone has any procedural documentation for  
> installing
> and using  Rails from the standalone packages rather then via ''gem
> install''. It seems there should be some steps outside of simply
> unpacking the tar ball in order to integate it with your Ruby
> installation. Seems every bit of installation documentation I can find
> has ''gem install rails'' as the step for deploying Rails.
>
> Thanks,
> Devin Kramer
>
> -- 
> Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
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I won''t say it can''t be done, because of course it can :) ...
but if you''re
going to drink the cool aid, you need to get and use gems (or live with svn
and edge)

My desktops are all Debian ... and when I first wanted to play, I do what
all good deb heads do "apt-get install rails"  ... well it worked, but
then
when you want to anything the least bit interesting and there isn''t a
deb
package but a gem ... getting them to talk to each other is a pain.

Then I stumbled upon some huge religeous fight about using gems within
debian, because it''s "not the Debian way" ... which is a
really annoying
part of the Debian community.

So I installed gems from rubyforge and do all my rails stuff via ''gem
install'' ... it makes my rails world a happier place.

Finally as you''ve already found, all the docs and troubleshooting
advice,
make the fundemental assumption that you''re using gems or svn ...
it''s the
way this part of the world works ... I found it easier to adopt the system
than fight it.

On 4/13/06, Devin Kramer <devinkramer@earthlink.net>
wrote:
>
> I am wondering if anyone has any procedural documentation for installing
> and using  Rails from the standalone packages rather then via ''gem
> install''. It seems there should be some steps outside of simply
> unpacking the tar ball in order to integate it with your Ruby
> installation. Seems every bit of installation documentation I can find
> has ''gem install rails'' as the step for deploying Rails.
>
> Thanks,
> Devin Kramer
>
> --
> Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
> _______________________________________________
> Rails mailing list
> Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org
> http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails
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On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 11:17:17AM -0500, Hank Marquardt
wrote:
> My desktops are all Debian ... and when I first wanted to play, I do what
> all good deb heads do "apt-get install rails"  ... well it
worked, but then
> when you want to anything the least bit interesting and there
isn''t a deb
> package but a gem ... getting them to talk to each other is a pain.
> 
> Then I stumbled upon some huge religeous fight about using gems within
> debian, because it''s "not the Debian way" ... which is a
really annoying
> part of the Debian community.
> 
> So I installed gems from rubyforge and do all my rails stuff via
''gem
> install'' ... it makes my rails world a happier place.
I don''t know if you''ve seen this yet, or installed rubygems by
hand to
get the gems, but I stumbled across a .deb of rubygems and so have a
"mostly the debian way" setup here...  Relevant lines of sources.list
are:

# Daigo Moriwaki''s ruby & other packages
deb http://www.sgtpepper.net/hyspro/deb unstable/
deb-src http://www.sgtpepper.net/hyspro/deb unstable/

It looks like Daigo Moriwaki''s a debian maintaner for several
packages, and he maintains this additional archive, too.

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I hadn''t seen that when I was looking ... though that''s only
half the
debate.   There certainly is an anti-gem attitude in Debian such that those
debs probably won''t be in the official archives ... but the second half
of
the debate is that you shouldn''t need gems because they are a
competing/conflicting package manager and hence polutes the ''Debian
Way'' ...


Of all the linux dixtros, I like debian the best over all; mostly for
apt-get and it''s package base ... but this dogmatic "though shalt
only do it
this way" gets grating at times ....

Besides, I''ve ''poluted'' my system with a patch
kernel.org kernel,
non-official debs for all the multi media stuff, etc. etc ... adding gems
from source and then loading a few gems rather than debs is certainly no
worse than using CPAN ...

Pragmatic instead of dogmatic is how I tend to view such things ...

On 4/13/06, Michael Gurski <rails@gurski.org>
wrote:
>
> On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 11:17:17AM -0500, Hank Marquardt wrote:
> > My desktops are all Debian ... and when I first wanted to play, I do
> what
> > all good deb heads do "apt-get install rails"  ... well it
worked, but
> then
> > when you want to anything the least bit interesting and there
isn''t a
> deb
> > package but a gem ... getting them to talk to each other is a pain.
> >
> > Then I stumbled upon some huge religeous fight about using gems within
> > debian, because it''s "not the Debian way" ... which
is a really annoying
> > part of the Debian community.
> >
> > So I installed gems from rubyforge and do all my rails stuff via
''gem
> > install'' ... it makes my rails world a happier place.
>
> I don''t know if you''ve seen this yet, or installed
rubygems by hand to
> get the gems, but I stumbled across a .deb of rubygems and so have a
> "mostly the debian way" setup here...  Relevant lines of
sources.list
> are:
>
> # Daigo Moriwaki''s ruby & other packages
> deb http://www.sgtpepper.net/hyspro/deb unstable/
> deb-src http://www.sgtpepper.net/hyspro/deb unstable/
>
> It looks like Daigo Moriwaki''s a debian maintaner for several
> packages, and he maintains this additional archive, too.
>
> --
> Michael A. Gurski (opt. [first].)[last]@pobox.com
> http://www.pobox.com/~[last]
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