Just a poll here i am looking for a good IDE for rails and wondering what you guys use? features i like in an ide code highlites auto code complete file browser Currently i am using dreamwever but the code highliting is really bad its also a pain to set up other doucment types such as .yml data config. -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
Hi, There is only one answer: Eclipse 3.1 + Radrails (http://www.radrails.org/) Seb On 3/25/06, Stewart Matheson <smathe2@hotmail.com> wrote:> Just a poll here i am looking for a good IDE for rails and wondering > what you guys use? > > features i like in an ide > > code highlites > auto code complete > file browser > > Currently i am using dreamwever but the code highliting is really bad > its also a pain to set up other doucment types such as .yml data config. > > > -- > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >-- Sebastien Hugues Open Source & Web Consultant EasyBox Technologies Rue des Terreaux 7 CH-1003 Lausanne Switzerland Tel: + 41 21 312 58 66 Fax: + 41 21 312 58 65 Mob: +41 79 541 59 50 Skype: cebastyen
I''m using TextMate. I''d love to try out VIM. On 3/25/06, Sebastien Hugues <sebastien.hugues@gmail.com> wrote:> Hi, > > There is only one answer: > Eclipse 3.1 + Radrails (http://www.radrails.org/) > > Seb > > On 3/25/06, Stewart Matheson <smathe2@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Just a poll here i am looking for a good IDE for rails and wondering > > what you guys use? > > > > features i like in an ide > > > > code highlites > > auto code complete > > file browser > > > > Currently i am using dreamwever but the code highliting is really bad > > its also a pain to set up other doucment types such as .yml data config. > > > > > > -- > > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > > _______________________________________________ > > Rails mailing list > > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > > > > -- > Sebastien Hugues > Open Source & Web Consultant > EasyBox Technologies > Rue des Terreaux 7 > CH-1003 Lausanne > Switzerland > Tel: + 41 21 312 58 66 > Fax: + 41 21 312 58 65 > Mob: +41 79 541 59 50 > Skype: cebastyen > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > >
Oh, you''re on windows, sorry. Yeah check out RadRails. On 3/25/06, Robert MannI <robmnl@gmail.com> wrote:> I''m using TextMate. > > I''d love to try out VIM. > > On 3/25/06, Sebastien Hugues <sebastien.hugues@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > There is only one answer: > > Eclipse 3.1 + Radrails (http://www.radrails.org/) > > > > Seb > > > > On 3/25/06, Stewart Matheson <smathe2@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > Just a poll here i am looking for a good IDE for rails and wondering > > > what you guys use? > > > > > > features i like in an ide > > > > > > code highlites > > > auto code complete > > > file browser > > > > > > Currently i am using dreamwever but the code highliting is really bad > > > its also a pain to set up other doucment types such as .yml data config. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Rails mailing list > > > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > > > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > > > > > > > > -- > > Sebastien Hugues > > Open Source & Web Consultant > > EasyBox Technologies > > Rue des Terreaux 7 > > CH-1003 Lausanne > > Switzerland > > Tel: + 41 21 312 58 66 > > Fax: + 41 21 312 58 65 > > Mob: +41 79 541 59 50 > > Skype: cebastyen > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rails mailing list > > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > > > > > >
Robert MannI wrote:> I''m using TextMate. > > I''d love to try out VIM.can textmate run on a pc? whats VIM? -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
Stewart Matheson wrote:> whats VIM?I think that when you have to ask that, Vim is not for you... It''s a modal editor, where you can place the editor in command mode, which causes your keys to carry out commands, like "change word", "delete 5 lines", etc. But when you''re used to GUI editing and moving the cursor with the arrow keys, instead of with jlki, Vim is not for you... -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
Sebastien Hugues wrote:> Hi, > > There is only one answer: > Eclipse 3.1 + Radrails (http://www.radrails.org/) > > SebI tried a Rails plugin for Eclipse a while ago, but it was very incomplete and buggy, but I can''t remember the name. Could that have been radrails, or is/was there another one out there? Can you edit rhtml with Radrails properly? How far does the code completion go? I''m used to Java code completion and real-time correctness-checking, which worked flawlessy. The code completion gave you every option that exists (a row of methods for an object for example), and when the editor didn''t mark any code as wrong, the code was correct. Typing in a varname which didn''t exist caused the editor to mark it. Does radrails go that far? -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
humm just got rad rails then... Looks really nice but it seems to assme that your using a server on your local machine. I have to been using it long but there does not seem to be a way to put it to remote folders and databases. I am running a fc5 testing box in another room and i would like to run it all off that. I have mapped my rails apps folder to my r drive so its ok i suppose... will keep looking in to it LOL vim does not sound like its for me at all i am all about gui over here ;) -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
easy fix: mount your remote volume with [net use] on windows and [smbmount] on unix there should be equivalent stuff on mac-os Stewart Matheson wrote:>humm just got rad rails then... > >Looks really nice but it seems to assme that your using a server on your >local machine. I have to been using it long but there does not seem to >be a way to put it to remote folders and databases. I am running a fc5 >testing box in another room and i would like to run it all off that. I >have mapped my rails apps folder to my r drive so its ok i suppose... >will keep looking in to it > >LOL vim does not sound like its for me at all i am all about gui over >here ;) > > >
Peter Ertl wrote:> easy fix: > mount your remote volume with [net use] on windows and [smbmount] on > unixI believe he''s already done that. His "r" drive, is probably "r:". And you can easily map a network share to a drive letter in Windows, without "net use". BTW, when on Unix, smbmount is only the correct choice when the network drive is a smb share. It may very well be NFS. -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
Sorry, this is in relation to the question on Ruby on Rails IDE Message: 3> Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 10:05:09 -0300 > From: "Victor Kane" <victorkane@gmail.com> > Subject: [Rails] Re: Rails Digest, Vol 18, Issue 654 > To: rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > Message-ID: > <ff176450603250505u4230c334x4ec12489b6d273e@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Radrails! Certainly complies with what you are looking for and much more. > (Ctrl-Shift-V to toggle the editor between Model and View, for example). > Runs as a standalone application, or as a feature (plugin) on the Eclipse > platform. Cross platform either way. > > Then there''s the cost: it''s free! > > RadRails: http://www.radrails.org/ > > (Just one the award for best open source Eclipse developer tool, by the > way). > > I have written (am in the process of finishing) a tutorial with many > screenshots which includes how to get started with RadRails, which you can > find at > http://wiki.awebfactory.com.ar/awebfactory/published/RadRailsTutorials. It > does show the installation process as well. Or else get the standalone if > you don''t need other tools in Eclipse. > > Victor Kane, > http://awebfactory.com.ar > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 13:25:31 +0100 > > From: Stewart Matheson <smathe2@hotmail.com> > > Subject: [Rails] Your Ruby IDE > > To: rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > > Message-ID: <6670a1d9b32e498c060208de9f78911f@ruby-forum.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > > > Just a poll here i am looking for a good IDE for rails and wondering > > what you guys use? > > > > features i like in an ide > > > > code highlites > > auto code complete > > file browser > > > > Currently i am using dreamwever but the code highliting is really bad > > its also a pain to set up other doucment types such as .yml data config. > >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://wrath.rubyonrails.org/pipermail/rails/attachments/20060325/694a9e1c/attachment.html
Wiebe Cazemier wrote:> Stewart Matheson wrote: >> whats VIM? > > I think that when you have to ask that, Vim is not for you... > > It''s a modal editor, where you can place the editor in command mode, > which causes your keys to carry out commands, like "change word", > "delete 5 lines", etc. But when you''re used to GUI editing and moving > the cursor with the arrow keys, instead of with jlki, Vim is not for > you...A month ago I had to ask "What''s VIM", and then I found out and started using it, and now it''s definitely for me. These things *can* be learned :) Jeff -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
Wiebe Cazemier wrote:> Peter Ertl wrote: >> easy fix: >> mount your remote volume with [net use] on windows and [smbmount] on >> unix > > I believe he''s already done that. His "r" drive, is probably "r:". And > you can easily map a network share to a drive letter in Windows, without > "net use". > > BTW, when on Unix, smbmount is only the correct choice when the network > drive is a smb share. It may very well be NFS.yes thats corrent i have already mapped the dirve.... thanks to samba i was able to do this. Still not sure how to add a rad rails remote database to the mix. Will try and work this out today as it looks like a really nice ide. Still does not seem to support much in the way of html editing... well not like dreamweaver does anyway. There are still a number of features in dreamweaver that make it a cut above the rest. Hopfully adobe catch on to this rails trend but thats unlikely with CF hanging around. A couple of other funny things i noticed with rad rails.... 1. keeps saying that i need java ver 1.4.1 and that i have got 1.3.1_2 which is od d as i go to my java console and it says that i have 1.4.1_2. 2. When i click generate skelenton of the app upon starting a new project it does not seem to work... i know this is not really a rad rails forum but i just thought i would add it in here for the sake of the forum... lol any one had any of the same issues i am having??? -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
I''m using RaidRails on Windows XP with a Samba share Thanks to Cygwin I can run X Windows sessions (KDE) from my Windows workstation and then works easily with the breakpointer, script/generate and rake in several terminal windows. -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
Christophe Gimenez wrote:> I''m using RaidRails on Windows XP with a Samba share > Thanks to Cygwin I can run X Windows sessions (KDE) from my Windows > workstation and then works easily with the breakpointer, script/generate > and rake in several terminal windows.ahh so your running it though a vpn? -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
Stewart Matheson wrote:> Christophe Gimenez wrote: >> I''m using RaidRails on Windows XP with a Samba share >> Thanks to Cygwin I can run X Windows sessions (KDE) from my Windows >> workstation and then works easily with the breakpointer, script/generate >> and rake in several terminal windows. > > ahh so your running it though a vpn?lol sorry a vnc -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
Stewart Matheson wrote:> Stewart Matheson wrote: >> Christophe Gimenez wrote: >>> I''m using RaidRails on Windows XP with a Samba share >>> Thanks to Cygwin I can run X Windows sessions (KDE) from my Windows >>> workstation and then works easily with the breakpointer, script/generate >>> and rake in several terminal windows. >> >> ahh so your running it though a vpn? > > lol sorry a vncNot at all - I run a full xsession from cygwin. It''s really really easy to setup if you have XFree allready running on your server (2 options to change on server side, 1 bash line on cygwin windows XP side). It works like a breeze (eg. cut and paste from Windows XP <--> XWindows uses the usual keyboard commands) I''ve used this solution for years now and never had the need to use vnc instead - and honestly, I prefer to avoid setting up another daemon/service (vnc) on the server. But using vnc vs XFree/cygwin is certainly a matter of taste. -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
Stewart Matheson wrote:> yes thats corrent i have already mapped the dirve.... thanks to samba i > was able to do this. Still not sure how to add a rad rails remote > database to the mix. Will try and work this out today as it looks likeYou should be able to just specify the host name in database.yml... i.e. "myhost.com" instead of "localhost" (without the quotes of course). Make sure the db accepts TCP connections too.> a really nice ide. Still does not seem to support much in the way of > html editing... well not like dreamweaver does anyway. There are still a > number of features in dreamweaver that make it a cut above the rest. > Hopfully adobe catch on to this rails trend but thats unlikely with CF > hanging around.Dreamweaver is pure evil. HTML is just as valuable code as Ruby... would you want some macrodobey monstrosity creating your Ruby for you? Proper HTML markup conveys the intent or meaning of the data it''s marking up (i.e. HTML is NOT a presentation language) so how could a stupid machine ever get it right? :-)> A couple of other funny things i noticed with rad rails.... > > 1. keeps saying that i need java ver 1.4.1 and that i have got 1.3.1_2 > which is od d as i go to my java console and it says that i have > 1.4.1_2.Java comes in two forms, the JRE (Java Runtime Environment) and the JDK (Java Development Kit) and you can have multiple installed (I have four). Your Java console is probably telling you that your JRE is 1.4.1_2 but you probably also have a 1.3.1_2 (either JDK or JRE) somewhere. Eclipse has it''s own configuration for which of the installed JDKs it uses. RadRails standalone does not appear to have this, so if you''re using that, well you can still uninstall the java 1.3. But if you''re using Eclipse, go to the preferences and under "Java > Installed JREs" you can tell it about the 1.4 JRE.> 2. When i click generate skelenton of the app upon starting a new > project it does not seem to work...I remember having that problem... I think it was that it hadn''t found my ruby installation... You can fix that in "preferences > Ruby > Installed interpreters". Would be if it gave you an error at least, huh?> i know this is not really a rad rails forum but i just thought i would > add it in here for the sake of the forum... lol any one had any of the > same issues i am having??? >NP... seems like everyone''s pretty flexible here... :-) By the way, Victor Kane has some nice looking tutorials (including radrails) at: http://wiki.awebfactory.com.ar/awebfactory/published/HomePage good luck! b
Ben Munat wrote:> Stewart Matheson wrote: >> yes thats corrent i have already mapped the dirve.... thanks to samba i >> was able to do this. Still not sure how to add a rad rails remote >> database to the mix. Will try and work this out today as it looks like > > You should be able to just specify the host name in database.yml... i.e. > "myhost.com" > instead of "localhost" (without the quotes of course). Make sure the db > accepts TCP > connections too. > >> a really nice ide. Still does not seem to support much in the way of >> html editing... well not like dreamweaver does anyway. There are still a >> number of features in dreamweaver that make it a cut above the rest. >> Hopfully adobe catch on to this rails trend but thats unlikely with CF >> hanging around. > > Dreamweaver is pure evil. HTML is just as valuable code as Ruby... would > you want some > macrodobey monstrosity creating your Ruby for you? Proper HTML markup > conveys the intent > or meaning of the data it''s marking up (i.e. HTML is NOT a presentation > language) so how > could a stupid machine ever get it right? :-) > >> A couple of other funny things i noticed with rad rails.... >> >> 1. keeps saying that i need java ver 1.4.1 and that i have got 1.3.1_2 >> which is od d as i go to my java console and it says that i have >> 1.4.1_2. > > Java comes in two forms, the JRE (Java Runtime Environment) and the JDK > (Java Development > Kit) and you can have multiple installed (I have four). Your Java > console is probably > telling you that your JRE is 1.4.1_2 but you probably also have a > 1.3.1_2 (either JDK or > JRE) somewhere. > > Eclipse has it''s own configuration for which of the installed JDKs it > uses. RadRails > standalone does not appear to have this, so if you''re using that, well > you can still > uninstall the java 1.3. But if you''re using Eclipse, go to the > preferences and under "Java > > Installed JREs" you can tell it about the 1.4 JRE. > >> 2. When i click generate skelenton of the app upon starting a new >> project it does not seem to work... > > I remember having that problem... I think it was that it hadn''t found my > ruby > installation... You can fix that in "preferences > Ruby > Installed > interpreters". Would > be if it gave you an error at least, huh? > >> i know this is not really a rad rails forum but i just thought i would >> add it in here for the sake of the forum... lol any one had any of the >> same issues i am having??? >> > > NP... seems like everyone''s pretty flexible here... :-) > > By the way, Victor Kane has some nice looking tutorials (including > radrails) at: > > http://wiki.awebfactory.com.ar/awebfactory/published/HomePage > > good luck! > > bWow Ben you Guru OK 1. got the database in order wiht the ports and the hostname. so no more problems there. 2. LOL i love dreamweaver so i will have to disagree i find it really good to edit pages and it handles html ok. For the most part i type out all the html code my self using the WYSIWYG editor at times. ITs good for doing things like CSS as it has text prediction which is really handy!!!!! 3. Tryed uninstalling all java apps from my machine and reinstalled 1.5 aka java 5 run time. Did not help... i can still run radrails however i have to use the setup.jar file and not the exe when i want to run the app. 4. I think i will just continue using the shell to do this. I have putty all setup so its just as easy. I checked the way to set it up but once again it seems to assume you are running the run times form the local machine which i am not... I suppose i could map the bin folder to a drive and use it that way but i really cant see it saving me much time... what do you think about this Ben? 5. Yea this forum is really good everyone is soo helpful of new users. This is a really good chanage form a lot of other forums you go to on the internet... I checked out that other site you posted. Went right in to the book marks i will be working thoguh some of the tutes this week. I am still waiting on a rails book in the post before i get right in to it -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
Stewart Matheson wrote:> Wow Ben you GuruNah... I just have a big mouth. :-)> OK > > 1. got the database in order wiht the ports and the hostname. so no more > problems there.Sweet.> 2. LOL i love dreamweaver so i will have to disagree i find it really > good to edit pages and it handles html ok. For the most part i type out > all the html code my self using the WYSIWYG editor at times. ITs good > for doing things like CSS as it has text prediction which is really > handy!!!!!That''s cool... I just like to go for the jugular sometimes... you could probably crank out a page faster than me... hopefully they at least have a built in validator by now.> 3. Tryed uninstalling all java apps from my machine and reinstalled 1.5 > aka java 5 run time. Did not help... i can still run radrails however i > have to use the setup.jar file and not the exe when i want to run the > app.This is really weird. Maybe try a new copy of eclipse with a fresh install of the radrails plugin?> 4. I think i will just continue using the shell to do this. I have > putty all setup so its just as easy. I checked the way to set it up but > once again it seems to assume you are running the run times form the > local machine which i am not... I suppose i could map the bin folder to > a drive and use it that way but i really cant see it saving me much > time... what do you think about this Ben?Here''s another tut that''s been passed around a bunch: http://www.napcs.com/howto/railsonwindows.html However, it''s not about using radrails so it might screw you up even worse. But there are tips in there about setting up external scripts and stuff. I''ve had very few problems with radrails... and I''ve been impressed with how quickly a couple of guys are knocking shit out.> 5. Yea this forum is really good everyone is soo helpful of new users. > This is a really good chanage form a lot of other forums you go to on > the internet... > > I checked out that other site you posted. Went right in to the book > marks i will be working thoguh some of the tutes this week. I am still > waiting on a rails book in the post before i get right in to it >
Ben Munat wrote:> Dreamweaver is pure evil. HTML is just as valuable code as Ruby... would > you want some > macrodobey monstrosity creating your Ruby for you? Proper HTML markup > conveys the intent > or meaning of the data it''s marking up (i.e. HTML is NOT a presentation > language) so how > could a stupid machine ever get it right? :-)Does this mean you can edit rhtml with radrails properly? Most IDE''s are not aware of the JSP or rails tags in the HTML, and will mark it as bad. And, being able to automaticly create open and close tags would be welcome too. And most importantly, can it code-complete in rhtml (or .rb files for that matter)? When you have a view and you''re typing "object.", does the "." trigger a list of methods you can use? -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
Wiebe Cazemier wrote:> Ben Munat wrote: >> Dreamweaver is pure evil. HTML is just as valuable code as Ruby... would >> you want some >> macrodobey monstrosity creating your Ruby for you? Proper HTML markup >> conveys the intent >> or meaning of the data it''s marking up (i.e. HTML is NOT a presentation >> language) so how >> could a stupid machine ever get it right? :-) > > Does this mean you can edit rhtml with radrails properly? Most IDE''s are > not aware of the JSP or rails tags in the HTML, and will mark it as bad. > And, being able to automaticly create open and close tags would be > welcome too. >More or less, syntax coloring is sometime funky with rhtml files but RadRails is still under beta - No auto close either, or I missed this one.> And most importantly, can it code-complete in rhtml (or .rb files for > that matter)? When you have a view and you''re typing "object.", does the > "." trigger a list of methods you can use?Not really, it provides a very minimal code completion (in fact sort of code completion) for classes names and ruby standard methods. -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
Christophe Gimenez wrote:> Wiebe Cazemier wrote: >> Ben Munat wrote: >>> Dreamweaver is pure evil. HTML is just as valuable code as Ruby... would >>> you want some >>> macrodobey monstrosity creating your Ruby for you? Proper HTML markup >>> conveys the intent >>> or meaning of the data it''s marking up (i.e. HTML is NOT a presentation >>> language) so how >>> could a stupid machine ever get it right? :-) >> >> Does this mean you can edit rhtml with radrails properly? Most IDE''s are >> not aware of the JSP or rails tags in the HTML, and will mark it as bad. >> And, being able to automaticly create open and close tags would be >> welcome too. >> > > More or less, syntax coloring is sometime funky with rhtml files but > RadRails is still under beta - No auto close either, or I missed this > one. > >> And most importantly, can it code-complete in rhtml (or .rb files for >> that matter)? When you have a view and you''re typing "object.", does the >> "." trigger a list of methods you can use? > > Not really, it provides a very minimal code completion (in fact sort of > code completion) for classes names and ruby standard methods.Well thats it right there. Thats what everyone needs the intellisense to pick up what your typing. Auto close would be very handy as well. I have been looking around a little and i found this... http://discuss.joelonsoftware.com/default.asp?joel.3.319015.27 This does not bode well for ruby on rails as Intellisense in the ide makes up a big part of the RAD princapals (that RoR is built on). However one thing to bare in mind about RoR, its quite new when you look at j2ee and dot net(leaders in Intellisense). There is still a long way for RoR and RadRails oo go and if the take up has been as good as it is so far then we have a lot to look forward too. -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
Stewart Matheson wrote:> Christophe Gimenez wrote: >>Not really, it provides a very minimal code completion (in fact sort of >>code completion) for classes names and ruby standard methods. > > > Well thats it right there. Thats what everyone needs the intellisense to > pick up what your typing. Auto close would be very handy as well. I have > been looking around a little and i found this... > > http://discuss.joelonsoftware.com/default.asp?joel.3.319015.27 > > This does not bode well for ruby on rails as Intellisense in the ide > makes up a big part of the RAD princapals (that RoR is built on).That''s really a matter of personal taste. You *could* make the counter-argument that if a system''s complicated enough to mean that its users *need* intelligent code completion to get anything done, it''s way too complex and should be simplified. Me, I use vim with a few handy shortcuts. You don''t need autocomplete for RAD. -- Alex
Alex Young wrote:> That''s really a matter of personal taste. You *could* make the > counter-argument that if a system''s complicated enough to mean that its > users *need* intelligent code completion to get anything done, it''s way > too complex and should be simplified. Me, I use vim with a few handy > shortcuts. You don''t need autocomplete for RAD.In my opinion, a listing of available methods on objects is useful even for the most simple systems. Especially if it also shows what parameters the method needs. It would reduce the amount of times you have to look at the Rails API docs, for example. -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
> A month ago I had to ask "What''s VIM", and then I found out and started > using it, and now it''s definitely for me. > > These things *can* be learned :)Bravo ! VIM is the most versatile editor there is. It will most likely exist on any *n?x system you ever log into. I try and open the /help system every once in a while, find a command I don''t use... then play with it until it dawns on me how useful it actually is. I''ve seen people edit files faster than any other editor could ever possibly do with any other IDE (except possibly hardcore emacs users :)) On 3/26/06, Wiebe Cazemier <halfgaar@gmail.com> wrote:> > Alex Young wrote: > > That''s really a matter of personal taste. You *could* make the > > counter-argument that if a system''s complicated enough to mean that its > > users *need* intelligent code completion to get anything done, it''s way > > too complex and should be simplified. Me, I use vim with a few handy > > shortcuts. You don''t need autocomplete for RAD. > > In my opinion, a listing of available methods on objects is useful even > for the most simple systems. Especially if it also shows what parameters > the method needs. It would reduce the amount of times you have to look > at the Rails API docs, for example. > > -- > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://wrath.rubyonrails.org/pipermail/rails/attachments/20060326/22cff20e/attachment.html
Dylan Stamat wrote:> (except possibly hardcore emacs users :))maybe like this: http://www.bloomington.in.us/~brutt/msf-abbrev-demo.gif :^) -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
I''ve been using PSPad for my rails editing for a while now. It''s a bit of a pain to add rails syntax support, but once setup I find it very good. -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
Back in August I posted a howto on my website that showed how to set up Eclipse with RDT, the Web Tools platform and DBEdit to do Rails development. This is pre-Radrails but I keep updating the site because there are still some very important things missing from RadRails that I have come to depend on. The Web Tools project from Eclipse gives you a really nice CSS / HTML editor with templates and autocomplete... and with a tiny bit of work (and some templates from my site) you can hack the JSP editor to do RHTML files. I''m sure that RadRails will eventually render my work useless, but in the meantime you could give my setup a loook. http://www.napcs.com/howto/railsonwindows.html On 3/26/06, Charley <charleyramm@fastmail.fm> wrote:> > I''ve been using PSPad for my rails editing for a while now. It''s a bit > of a pain to add rails syntax support, but once setup I find it very > good. > > -- > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://wrath.rubyonrails.org/pipermail/rails/attachments/20060327/3bec4bc2/attachment.html
Hi Stewart,
I am using Emacs21 on Debian Sarge and I have been able to get the
following features by adding various mode files (a very short list for
each)
see: http://wiki.rubyonrails.com/rails/pages/HowToUseEmacsWithRails
ecb mode - Gives me directory explorer pane(IDE like interface)
File manipulation pane(create etc)
Methods list pane
Ruby mode- Syntax Highlighting, code completion etc
CSS mode - same for CSS
HTML, XML modes
Rails mode - Code Snippets, Start/Stop WeBrick or Mongrel
SQL mode - Execute SQL
There are tons more features...and its all free and open source.
Check out http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki
for all sorts of mode files.
THe only caveat is that there is a steep learning curve...I''d say a
couple of weeks of intense work to get proficient. But the payoff is
great. While I am no emacs expert (yet:) I have seen some who start
the day with Emacs and don''t ever leave it since you can do pretty
much everything in it.
-bakki
PS: Tangentially -
While studying the elisp mode files i found it very very rewarding to
learn lisp. It even helps to understand Ruby better since Matz used
many Lisp concepts in Ruby.
Check out:
http://www.paulgraham.com/
See Matz''s quote at
http://ruby-talk.org/cgi-bin/scat.rb/ruby/ruby-talk/179642
and also
"Some may say Ruby is a bad rip-off of Lisp or Smalltalk, and I admit
that. But it is nicer to ordinary people."
- Matz, LL2 (from Paul Grahams site - lisp quotes)
On 3/25/06, Stewart Matheson <smathe2@hotmail.com>
wrote:> Just a poll here i am looking for a good IDE for rails and wondering
> what you guys use?
>
> features i like in an ide
>
> code highlites
> auto code complete
> file browser
>
> Currently i am using dreamwever but the code highliting is really bad
> its also a pain to set up other doucment types such as .yml data config.
>
>
> --
> Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
> _______________________________________________
> Rails mailing list
> Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org
> http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails
>
> Just a poll here i am looking for a good IDE for rails and wondering > what you guys use?Active state''s komodo - I had been using it for python [personal edition is only $30] - big plus is that you can debug your ROR apps with it.. -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
brez! !! wrote:> >> Just a poll here i am looking for a good IDE for rails and wondering >> what you guys use? > > Active state''s komodo - I had been using it for python [personal > edition is only $30] - big plus is that you can debug your ROR apps with > it..Komodo has to be the best IDE ever. i''ve been using the free trial version and i would probably sport for the pro version. $300 is quite a lot, but you can''t beat it! -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
I''ll second the emacs recommendation. I haven''t seen anything else that does everything I need (tags, svn, textmate-like snippets, css, sql, etc.). Radrails is OK, but too much of a dog. Eclipse with the radrails plugin is better than radrails by itself, but again it''s still to much of a dog for me. Also, you can use emacs over an SSH session. Regards, Jason On 27/03/06 12:40 -0500, Bakki Kudva wrote:> Hi Stewart, > > I am using Emacs21 on Debian Sarge and I have been able to get the > following features by adding various mode files (a very short list for > each) > see: http://wiki.rubyonrails.com/rails/pages/HowToUseEmacsWithRails > > ecb mode - Gives me directory explorer pane(IDE like interface) > File manipulation pane(create etc) > Methods list pane > Ruby mode- Syntax Highlighting, code completion etc > CSS mode - same for CSS > HTML, XML modes > Rails mode - Code Snippets, Start/Stop WeBrick or Mongrel > SQL mode - Execute SQL > > There are tons more features...and its all free and open source. > > Check out http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki > for all sorts of mode files. > > THe only caveat is that there is a steep learning curve...I''d say a > couple of weeks of intense work to get proficient. But the payoff is > great. While I am no emacs expert (yet:) I have seen some who start > the day with Emacs and don''t ever leave it since you can do pretty > much everything in it. > > -bakki > > PS: Tangentially - > While studying the elisp mode files i found it very very rewarding to > learn lisp. It even helps to understand Ruby better since Matz used > many Lisp concepts in Ruby. > Check out: > http://www.paulgraham.com/ > See Matz''s quote at http://ruby-talk.org/cgi-bin/scat.rb/ruby/ruby-talk/179642 > and also > "Some may say Ruby is a bad rip-off of Lisp or Smalltalk, and I admit > that. But it is nicer to ordinary people." > > - Matz, LL2 (from Paul Grahams site - lisp quotes) > > > On 3/25/06, Stewart Matheson <smathe2@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Just a poll here i am looking for a good IDE for rails and wondering > > what you guys use? > > > > features i like in an ide > > > > code highlites > > auto code complete > > file browser > > > > Currently i am using dreamwever but the code highliting is really bad > > its also a pain to set up other doucment types such as .yml data config. > > > > > > -- > > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > > _______________________________________________ > > Rails mailing list > > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails
Not to start a war but Vim does all that. Both are excellent editors. I myself prefer Vim, but what I tell people all the time when it comes to editors is: Choose an editor with some power behind it then spend some serious time *actually learning* how to use that editor well. A few weeks/ months down the road you will wonder how you did without it. Too many people grab an editor and learn simple copy, cut, paste, maybe indenting blocks of code and possibly ending an HTML tag for them and leave it at that. Oh, how much they are missing. My advise? Re-read the above paragraph ;-) Jeremy Cowgar http://lifewithchrist.org <--- undergoing a rewrite into RoR. On Mar 28, 2006, at 3:33 PM, Jason Stewart wrote:> I''ll second the emacs recommendation. I haven''t seen anything else > that does everything I need (tags, svn, textmate-like snippets, css, > sql, etc.). Radrails is OK, but too much of a dog. Eclipse with the > radrails plugin is better than radrails by itself, but again it''s > still to much of a dog for me. Also, you can use emacs over an SSH > session. > > Regards, > Jason > > On 27/03/06 12:40 -0500, Bakki Kudva wrote: >> Hi Stewart, >> >> I am using Emacs21 on Debian Sarge and I have been able to get the >> following features by adding various mode files (a very short list >> for >> each) >> see: http://wiki.rubyonrails.com/rails/pages/HowToUseEmacsWithRails >> >> ecb mode - Gives me directory explorer pane(IDE like >> interface) >> File manipulation pane(create etc) >> Methods list pane >> Ruby mode- Syntax Highlighting, code completion etc >> CSS mode - same for CSS >> HTML, XML modes >> Rails mode - Code Snippets, Start/Stop WeBrick or Mongrel >> SQL mode - Execute SQL >> >> There are tons more features...and its all free and open source. >> >> Check out http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki >> for all sorts of mode files. >> >> THe only caveat is that there is a steep learning curve...I''d say a >> couple of weeks of intense work to get proficient. But the payoff is >> great. While I am no emacs expert (yet:) I have seen some who start >> the day with Emacs and don''t ever leave it since you can do pretty >> much everything in it. >> >> -bakki >> >> PS: Tangentially - >> While studying the elisp mode files i found it very very rewarding to >> learn lisp. It even helps to understand Ruby better since Matz used >> many Lisp concepts in Ruby. >> Check out: >> http://www.paulgraham.com/ >> See Matz''s quote at http://ruby-talk.org/cgi-bin/scat.rb/ruby/ruby- >> talk/179642 >> and also >> "Some may say Ruby is a bad rip-off of Lisp or Smalltalk, and I admit >> that. But it is nicer to ordinary people." >> >> - Matz, LL2 (from Paul Grahams site - lisp quotes) >> >> >> On 3/25/06, Stewart Matheson <smathe2@hotmail.com> wrote: >>> Just a poll here i am looking for a good IDE for rails and wondering >>> what you guys use? >>> >>> features i like in an ide >>> >>> code highlites >>> auto code complete >>> file browser >>> >>> Currently i am using dreamwever but the code highliting is really >>> bad >>> its also a pain to set up other doucment types such as .yml data >>> config. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Rails mailing list >>> Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org >>> http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Rails mailing list >> Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org >> http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails
On 28/03/06 15:51 -0500, Jeremy Cowgar wrote:> Not to start a war but Vim does all that. Both are excellent editors. > I myself prefer Vim, but what I tell people all the time when it > comes to editors is:I also like to use vim for various things. Are there snippets for vim to make rails dev easy on the fingers? Regards, Jason
Yes there is, http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=1318 Jeremy Cowgar http://lifewithchrist.org <--- currently being rewritten in RoR On Mar 28, 2006, at 5:00 PM, Jason Stewart wrote:> On 28/03/06 15:51 -0500, Jeremy Cowgar wrote: >> Not to start a war but Vim does all that. Both are excellent editors. >> I myself prefer Vim, but what I tell people all the time when it >> comes to editors is: > > I also like to use vim for various things. Are there snippets for vim > to make rails dev easy on the fingers? > > Regards, > Jason > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails
If you want to look into VIM with out having to jump in with both feet right off the bat there is Cream http://cream.sourceforge.net/ Cream sits on top of VIM making it easier to install and more intutive to new users. As you get comfertable you''ll find your self droping into "Expert" mode more and more often, harnessing all of the power of VIM with out the initial confusion of modal editing. Rob Kaufman On 3/28/06, Jeremy Cowgar <jeremy@cowgar.com> wrote:> Not to start a war but Vim does all that. Both are excellent editors. > I myself prefer Vim, but what I tell people all the time when it > comes to editors is: > > Choose an editor with some power behind it then spend some serious > time *actually learning* how to use that editor well. A few weeks/ > months down the road you will wonder how you did without it. Too many > people grab an editor and learn simple copy, cut, paste, maybe > indenting blocks of code and possibly ending an HTML tag for them and > leave it at that. Oh, how much they are missing. > > My advise? Re-read the above paragraph ;-) > > Jeremy Cowgar > http://lifewithchrist.org <--- undergoing a rewrite into RoR. > > On Mar 28, 2006, at 3:33 PM, Jason Stewart wrote: > > > I''ll second the emacs recommendation. I haven''t seen anything else > > that does everything I need (tags, svn, textmate-like snippets, css, > > sql, etc.). Radrails is OK, but too much of a dog. Eclipse with the > > radrails plugin is better than radrails by itself, but again it''s > > still to much of a dog for me. Also, you can use emacs over an SSH > > session. > > > > Regards, > > Jason > > > > On 27/03/06 12:40 -0500, Bakki Kudva wrote: > >> Hi Stewart, > >> > >> I am using Emacs21 on Debian Sarge and I have been able to get the > >> following features by adding various mode files (a very short list > >> for > >> each) > >> see: http://wiki.rubyonrails.com/rails/pages/HowToUseEmacsWithRails > >> > >> ecb mode - Gives me directory explorer pane(IDE like > >> interface) > >> File manipulation pane(create etc) > >> Methods list pane > >> Ruby mode- Syntax Highlighting, code completion etc > >> CSS mode - same for CSS > >> HTML, XML modes > >> Rails mode - Code Snippets, Start/Stop WeBrick or Mongrel > >> SQL mode - Execute SQL > >> > >> There are tons more features...and its all free and open source. > >> > >> Check out http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki > >> for all sorts of mode files. > >> > >> THe only caveat is that there is a steep learning curve...I''d say a > >> couple of weeks of intense work to get proficient. But the payoff is > >> great. While I am no emacs expert (yet:) I have seen some who start > >> the day with Emacs and don''t ever leave it since you can do pretty > >> much everything in it. > >> > >> -bakki > >> > >> PS: Tangentially - > >> While studying the elisp mode files i found it very very rewarding to > >> learn lisp. It even helps to understand Ruby better since Matz used > >> many Lisp concepts in Ruby. > >> Check out: > >> http://www.paulgraham.com/ > >> See Matz''s quote at http://ruby-talk.org/cgi-bin/scat.rb/ruby/ruby- > >> talk/179642 > >> and also > >> "Some may say Ruby is a bad rip-off of Lisp or Smalltalk, and I admit > >> that. But it is nicer to ordinary people." > >> > >> - Matz, LL2 (from Paul Grahams site - lisp quotes) > >> > >> > >> On 3/25/06, Stewart Matheson <smathe2@hotmail.com> wrote: > >>> Just a poll here i am looking for a good IDE for rails and wondering > >>> what you guys use? > >>> > >>> features i like in an ide > >>> > >>> code highlites > >>> auto code complete > >>> file browser > >>> > >>> Currently i am using dreamwever but the code highliting is really > >>> bad > >>> its also a pain to set up other doucment types such as .yml data > >>> config. > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Rails mailing list > >>> Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > >>> http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Rails mailing list > >> Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > >> http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > _______________________________________________ > > Rails mailing list > > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >
Robert MannI wrote:> I''m using TextMate. > I''d love to try out VIM.Would anyone use anything *else* than TextMate if on a Mac ? :-) hint hint, nudge nudge, wink wink. p.s. Oh my god!.. I just realized how old this thread is! prev-post is early2006. -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 12:28 PM, Shawn Koppenhoefer <rails-mailing-list-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > Robert MannI wrote: >> I''m using TextMate. >> I''d love to try out VIM. > > Would anyone use anything *else* than TextMate if on a Mac ? :-) hint > hint, nudge nudge, wink wink.Yes, of course, there''s a lot of people using VIM on a Mac.> > > p.s. Oh my god!.. I just realized how old this thread is! prev-post is > early2006.Nevermind, these questions never get old fashioned. :) By the way, I''m using VIM on a linux box. -- Leonardo Mateo. There''s no place like ~
Stewart Matheson wrote:> Just a poll here i am looking for a good IDE for rails and wondering > what you guys use?Rails does not need or benefit from a real IDE. I dropped Aptana and NetBeans and use KomodoEdit for Rails development. jEdit is also worth a look.> > features i like in an ide > > code highlites > auto code complete > file browserI like a project browser and syntax highlighting. I don''t have much use for code completion: it would be nice to have (and in fact KomodoEdit does have it) but because of Ruby''s dynamic nature, I''ve yet to see code completion for Ruby that actually works well.> > Currently i am using dreamwever but the code highliting is really bad > its also a pain to set up other doucment types such as .yml data config.Best, -- Marnen Laibow-Koser http://www.marnen.org marnen-sbuyVjPbboAdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
Shawn Koppenhoefer wrote:> Robert MannI wrote: >> I''m using TextMate. >> I''d love to try out VIM. > > Would anyone use anything *else* than TextMate if on a Mac ? :-) hint > hint, nudge nudge, wink wink.I''m using KomodoEdit on a Mac. I refuse to spend all that money on a text editor.> > > p.s. Oh my god!.. I just realized how old this thread is! prev-post is > early2006.Best, -- Marnen Laibow-Koser http://www.marnen.org marnen-sbuyVjPbboAdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
Marnen Laibow-Koser wrote:> > Rails does not need or benefit from a real IDE. I dropped Aptana and > NetBeans and use KomodoEdit for Rails development. jEdit is also worth > a look.I used Aptana fora while before going the JEdit route for my first (and so far only) sizeable Rails app. But now that I''m playing more on my Mac I''m a happy camper with Textmate (and WordWrangler). I have to say though, that the code-completion of X-code during my iPhone newbie-dev hours is very agreeable. Once you start trusting WHAT the completions will be you don''t need to watch it happen. What a fantastic way to avoid code syntax errors... or at least reduce their frequency! S. -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
Stewart Matheson wrote:> Just a poll here i am looking for a good IDE for rails and wondering > what you guys use? >https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Al_hzYODcgxwdG9tUFhqcVVoUDVaLTlqT2YtNjV1N0E&hl=en -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
P.s. I haven''t found a suitable emergency editor for my iPhone (HTML edit can''t resave the src back to the server ;( and ''Code Viewer'' can''t open urls or ftp''s)(and iOctocat ca''t edit and resave back to the repository ;( Short of using vnc or a terminal connection, anyone found a decent if awkward, solution? ... Yeah, I know,.. Buy a portable... soon... soon. -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
Shawn Koppenhoefer wrote:> P.s. I haven''t found a suitable emergency editor for my iPhone (HTML > edit can''t resave the src back to the server ;( and ''Code Viewer'' can''t > open urls or ftp''s)(and iOctocat ca''t edit and resave back to the > repository ;( > Short of using vnc or a terminal connection, anyone found a decent if > awkward, solution?Github edit, perhaps? I''ve never tried in on my iPhone, but it should work...> > ... Yeah, I know,.. Buy a portable... soon... soon.:) Best, -- Marnen Laibow-Koser http://www.marnen.org marnen-sbuyVjPbboAdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
For quick hacking sessions or really small projects I use vim with a bunch of plugins. For every day work I use Netbeans. It''s a great IDE for Ruby/Python/PHP after some configuration effort. I''m working on linux boxes, however a friend at work uses successfuly Netbeans on his MacBook. Łukasz Badura | http://www.badurowie.org
Emacs baby. http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/EmacsForMacOS and http://github.com/technomancy/emacs-starter-kit/ will get you on your way. On Oct 29, 8:04 am, Marnen Laibow-Koser <rails-mailing-l...@andreas- s.net> wrote:> Shawn Koppenhoefer wrote: > > P.s. I haven''t found a suitable emergency editor for my iPhone (HTML > > edit can''t resave the src back to the server ;( and ''Code Viewer'' can''t > > open urls or ftp''s)(and iOctocat ca''t edit and resave back to the > > repository ;( > > Short of using vnc or a terminal connection, anyone found a decent if > > awkward, solution? > > Github edit, perhaps? I''ve never tried in on my iPhone, but it should > work... > > > > > ... Yeah, I know,.. Buy a portable... soon... soon. > > :) > > Best, > -- > Marnen Laibow-Koserhttp://www.marnen.org > mar...-sbuyVjPbboAdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org > -- > Posted viahttp://www.ruby-forum.com/.
Looks like I''m the only one using Ruby in Steel (Ruby plugin for Visual Studio). I love it, but I''m a Windows user primarily and I use Visual Studio for my work programming anyways. -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
Łukasz Badura wrote:> For quick hacking sessions or really small projects I use vim with a > bunch of plugins. For every day work I use Netbeans. It''s a great IDE > for Ruby/Python/PHP after some configuration effort. I''m working on > linux boxes, however a friend at work uses successfuly Netbeans on his > MacBook.I too use NetBean, but I also do no small amount of Java EE work. I prefer Coda to TextMate. For quick edits vi has been, and always will be, my friend.
I used Netbeans a fair amount, but I just purchased a license for Rubymine.. So for me, it''s gonna be Rubymine and gVim + irb :-) -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
I use Netbeans as well but it''s not as good as eclipse which I use for java. On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Aldric Giacomoni < rails-mailing-list-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > I used Netbeans a fair amount, but I just purchased a license for > Rubymine.. So for me, it''s gonna be Rubymine and gVim + irb :-) > -- > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > > > >--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
I have used NetBeans (on Linux) in the past, but I am switching to Komodo Edit. I was purely using NetBeans as a text editor (no debugging, no running rake/script tasks, etc.), so I figure I might as well use a lighter weight editor. I had tried using Komodo Edit before (prior to version 5.2), but it had crashed on me occasionally, which I thought was very odd since I wasn''t pushing it particularly hard. So far, version 5.2 seems stable. On Oct 29, 1:13 pm, Jillian Galloway <jwa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> I use Netbeans as well but it''s not as good as eclipse which I use for java. > > On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Aldric Giacomoni < > > rails-mailing-l...-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > I used Netbeans a fair amount, but I just purchased a license for > > Rubymine.. So for me, it''s gonna be Rubymine and gVim + irb :-) > > -- > > Posted viahttp://www.ruby-forum.com/.
VIM is pretty good when you add in the Nerd Tree plugin (NERD_tree.vim). You can also get the snippets working similar to TextMate with the (snippetsEmu.vim). That''s typically what I use when I''m not on my home computer and I need to login to my remote dev box to make some quick updates or changes. I''ve tried to break away from TextMate a few times but I''ve been unsuccessful... They have a stranglehold on me. On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Jillian Galloway <jway87-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> I use Netbeans as well but it''s not as good as eclipse which I use for > java. > > > > > On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Aldric Giacomoni < > rails-mailing-list-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org> wrote: > >> >> I used Netbeans a fair amount, but I just purchased a license for >> Rubymine.. So for me, it''s gonna be Rubymine and gVim + irb :-) >> -- >> Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. >> >> >> > > > >-- Christopher Cowan "Making the simple complicated is commonplace; making the complicated simple, awesomely simple, that''s creativity" -- Charls Mingus, Jazz Bassist --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 11:18 AM, John Yerhot <joyerhot-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Emacs baby.I agree, there''s nothing as powerful as Emacs. I have yet to find something it can''t do. -- Greg Donald http://destiney.com/
Greg Donald wrote:> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 11:18 AM, John Yerhot <joyerhot-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> > wrote: >> Emacs baby. > > I agree, there''s nothing as powerful as Emacs. I have yet to find > something it can''t do.Display an attractive GUI? Or have things changed? (I like console Emacs, but find Xemacs just about unusable.)> > > -- > Greg Donald > http://destiney.com/Best, -- Marnen Laibow-Koser http://www.marnen.org marnen-sbuyVjPbboAdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
for MacOS you should look at: http://aquamacs.org/ and load in: http://rubyforge.org/projects/emacs-rails emacs is not a simple learn but you''ve got to love a an editor that''s 1) has been available on every os platform since the early 80''s 2) is a historic part of the open software community 3) is fully extensible, written in C, programmable in elisp 4) the programmer''s hanzo - tool of choice On Oct 29, 5:31 pm, Marnen Laibow-Koser <rails-mailing-l...@andreas- s.net> wrote:> Greg Donald wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 11:18 AM, John Yerhot <joyer...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> > > wrote: > >> Emacs baby. > > > I agree, there''s nothing as powerful as Emacs. I have yet to find > > something it can''t do. > > Display an attractive GUI? Or have things changed? > > (I like console Emacs, but find Xemacs just about unusable.) > > > > > -- > > Greg Donald > >http://destiney.com/ > > Best, > -- > Marnen Laibow-Koserhttp://www.marnen.org > mar...-sbuyVjPbboAdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org > -- > Posted viahttp://www.ruby-forum.com/.
Rick Lloyd wrote:> for MacOS you should look at: http://aquamacs.org/I have. My recollection is that it''s attractive and usable, but didn''t seem like any improvement over the console version. It was long enough ago that I don''t remember exactly what my issues were.> and load in: > http://rubyforge.org/projects/emacs-rails > > emacs is not a simple learn but you''ve got to love a an editor that''s > > 1) has been available on every os platform since the early 80''s > 2) is a historic part of the open software community > 3) is fully extensible, written in C, programmable in elisp > 4) the programmer''s hanzo - tool of choiceI agree -- emacs is absolutely my console editor of choice. But I don''t like using console editors when a GUI editor is available.> > On Oct 29, 5:31�pm, Marnen Laibow-Koser <rails-mailing-l...@andreas-Best, -- Marnen Laibow-Koser http://www.marnen.org marnen-sbuyVjPbboAdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
I''ll probably get flamed for this, but I really like Coda for all my coding purposes. :-) I used TextMate and a few others over the years -- Eclipse, Aptana, VIM...well I still use VIM and sometimes Nano for a quick edit -- but I just like how Coda feels. Plus, if you dial in your local settings for your Coda project you get the built-in preview right in the IDE like Eclipse. I hear Espresso is pretty decent too, but most Rails folks I know use TextMate probably due to the multitude of snips and bundles for Rails. I still pop into TextMate occasionally, but I''m hooked on Coda now. :-) On Oct 29, 7:28 am, Shawn Koppenhoefer <rails-mailing-l...@andreas- s.net> wrote:> Robert MannI wrote: > > I''m using TextMate. > > I''d love to try out VIM. > > Would anyone use anything *else* than TextMate if on a Mac ? :-) hint > hint, nudge nudge, wink wink. > > p.s. Oh my god!.. I just realized how old this thread is! prev-post is > early2006. > > -- > Posted viahttp://www.ruby-forum.com/.
Billee D. wrote:> I''ll probably get flamed for this, but I really like Coda for all my > coding purposes. :-)You certainly won''t get flamed by me. I''ve used Coda very little indeed, but what I''ve seen, I like. Best, -- Marnen Laibow-Koser http://www.marnen.org marnen-sbuyVjPbboAdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
Marnen Laibow-Koser wrote:> I agree -- emacs is absolutely my console editor of choice. But I don''t > like using console editors when a GUI editor is available.emacs is a GUI editor nowadays. The Linux GTK version based on emacs 23 is great. You can do everything with the mouse and menus, even if usually using the command keys is faster because you don''t have to move the hands away from where they are most of the time (the keyboard) but you probably know that. An example: http://www.skybert.nu/cgi-bin/viewpage.py.cgi?computers+emacs+java_programming_tutorial I''ve been using both netbeans 6.5 and emacs in the last year. I''m mandated to use netbeans for a customer''s Java project and I use emacs for everything else. I think that emacs just beats netbeans feature by feature. However I concede two things: 1) It still feels like a console application with a GUI layer added to it. 2) It requires a good deal of customization to get it up to par with modern IDEs from the out-of-the-box version (adding modes, installing the right .el files, writing some elisp, etc). That''s why I use it only on my machine. I use vi over ssh connections to servers and whatever I find on other desktops, from notepad to kate or Textmate. Paolo -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
If not Text Mate.. then EMACS Best Wishes, Saideep Annadatha On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Marnen Laibow-Koser < rails-mailing-list-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > Billee D. wrote: > > I''ll probably get flamed for this, but I really like Coda for all my > > coding purposes. :-) > > You certainly won''t get flamed by me. I''ve used Coda very little > indeed, but what I''ve seen, I like. > > Best, > -- > Marnen Laibow-Koser > http://www.marnen.org > marnen-sbuyVjPbboAdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org > -- > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > > > >--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 4:31 PM, Marnen Laibow-Koser <rails-mailing-list-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org> wrote:>> I agree, there''s nothing as powerful as Emacs. I have yet to find >> something it can''t do. > > Display an attractive GUI? Or have things changed?Looks really nice to me: http://static.destiney.com/emacs_screen_shot.jpg -- Greg Donald http://destiney.com/
Why dont you go for SciTE editor. It is simple and powerful -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Saravanan Krishnan <rails-mailing-list-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org> wrote:> > > Why dont you go for SciTE editor. It is simple and powerful...becase my editor is simple and powerful and I''m happy with it? -- Leonardo Mateo. There''s no place like ~
Greg Donald wrote:> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 4:31 PM, Marnen Laibow-Koser > <rails-mailing-list-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org> wrote: >>> I agree, there''s nothing as powerful as Emacs. �I have yet to find >>> something it can''t do. >> >> Display an attractive GUI? �Or have things changed? > > Looks really nice to me: > > http://static.destiney.com/emacs_screen_shot.jpg > > > --Impressive. Is that xemacs + Cygwin, or what?> Greg Donald > http://destiney.com/Best, -- Marnen Laibow-Koser http://www.marnen.org marnen-sbuyVjPbboAdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 10:14 AM, Marnen Laibow-Koser <rails-mailing-list-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org> wrote:> Impressive. Is that xemacs + Cygwin, or what?That''s plain old Emacs 23.1 on Windows 7. http://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/emacs/windows/ -- Greg Donald http://destiney.com/
Greg Donald wrote:> On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 10:14 AM, Marnen Laibow-Koser > <rails-mailing-list-ARtvInVfO7ksV2N9l4h3zg@public.gmane.org> wrote: >> Impressive. �Is that xemacs + Cygwin, or what? > > That''s plain old Emacs 23.1 on Windows 7. > > http://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/emacs/windowsInteresting. The last time I ran Emacs in a graphical environment, it looked nowhere near that good -- in fact, I considered it pretty much an unusable eyesore. I''ll have to investigate further, or perhaps give Aquamacs another try.> > > -- > Greg Donald > http://destiney.com/Best, -- Marnen Laibow-Koser http://www.marnen.org marnen-sbuyVjPbboAdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
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