Two separate questions in this post. 1. I have a model with two foreign keys to the same table. In this case, the associations represent "categories", so I have category1_id and category2_id. Doing belongs_to :category, :foreign_key => "category1_id" works, and I can use foo.category, however when I want to access the second category, I am forced to use SQL. I realize that with a many-many relationship like this, a bridging table might have been appropriate, however I know that I will always have two categories per record and no more, so the complication didn''t seem worth it. I feel like things like this may come up a lot, for instance if a flight model had a pilot and co-pilot foreign key, both referencing an employee table, or similar. Is there a way to make this work so that I can access each category with the same ease? 2. I have not been able to get two natural joins to work in the same query. That is, say I have 3 models, for instance, office with a foreign key of building_id, building with a foreign key of employee_id (the building manager), and employee. I cannot get any combination of :include in either associations or find method calls to work so that I can iterate over all offices and do office.building.employee without it needing to do a separate sql query for each employee? -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.