Rails - Jan 2006 - Mailing list software

For a project I''m working on I''m hoping to be able to have
both
discussion and announce-only e-mail lists. Does anybody have any 
recommendations about good existing mailing list apps that could be 
integrated with a rails app?

Does anybody have any experience using ActionMailer as the basis for a 
mass mailer? Does it perform well enough to make it feasible?

Thanks!

--
Dan Weinand

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Dan Weinand wrote:
> For a project I''m working on I''m hoping to be able to
have both
> discussion and announce-only e-mail lists. Does anybody have any 
> recommendations about good existing mailing list apps that could be 
> integrated with a rails app?
> 
> Does anybody have any experience using ActionMailer as the basis for a 
> mass mailer? Does it perform well enough to make it feasible?
My experience with various web frameworks/systems is that they almost 
never handle mass mailing very well. My recommendations is to use 
software for what it''s created for. So use web "software"
(rails) for
web and use mailing list software for mailists.

Maybe it''s time for a rails interface to mailman or a mailman 
implementation in ruby? :)

Greetings,
Gitte Wange

Mailman is certainly the standard for mailing list software but it sucks in
so many ways.

It''s based on Python, which some might like but I''m not a fan.

It''s harder than shit to configure.

Worst thing is performance with large lists. It uses Python pickles as its
persistence mechanism, which DO NOT scale at all. I have an announce only
list with 450,000 members (fan club for rock band The Offspring) and the
only way to handle it is to do all kinds of crazy configuration crap.

My thoughts on Mailman... Supposedly v3 will fix it but I don''t know if
anyone is actually working on v3 or just talking about it.

A RoR based mailing list system that didn''t have MM''s problems
could
probably dominate pretty easily.

Hunter
> From: Gitte Wange <gitte@wange.dk>
> Reply-To: <rails@lists.rubyonrails.org>
> Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 12:37:17 +0100
> To: <rails@lists.rubyonrails.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rails] Mailing list software
> 
> Dan Weinand wrote:
>> For a project I''m working on I''m hoping to be able to
have both
>> discussion and announce-only e-mail lists. Does anybody have any
>> recommendations about good existing mailing list apps that could be
>> integrated with a rails app?
>> 
>> Does anybody have any experience using ActionMailer as the basis for a
>> mass mailer? Does it perform well enough to make it feasible?
> 
> My experience with various web frameworks/systems is that they almost
> never handle mass mailing very well. My recommendations is to use
> software for what it''s created for. So use web
"software" (rails) for
> web and use mailing list software for mailists.
> 
> Maybe it''s time for a rails interface to mailman or a mailman
> implementation in ruby? :)
> 
> Greetings,
> Gitte Wange
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