Hi all, On the rails list I''ve seen that it''s hard to integrate Rails with Apache (especially apache2), that it''s hard to change the default port (3000), and that Apache runs Rails stuff slowly. Is it reasonable to run Rails stuff on Webrick while simultaneously running other stuff on Apache? How does one simultaneously run two rails applications on Webrick, when one must start webrick in the specific app''s directory (script/server)? Thanks SteveT Steve Litt Author: * Universal Troubleshooting Process courseware * Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist * Rapid Learning: Secret Weapon of the Successful Technologist Webmaster * Troubleshooters.Com * http://www.troubleshooters.com
Steve: You can easily run different webrick apps at the same time by specifying different port numbers. I find the EASIEST way to do this is to run Locomotive. Locomotive is FREE and available from sourceforge. Just put ruby rails locomotive into google. BY default Locomotive runs lighttpd, which seems like a very capable Apache equivalent (but I am no expert on such matters). Continue your enquiry with the cognoscenti on this list, if you wish to ask about the comparison. bruce On 4-Jan-06, at 8:20 AM, Steve Litt wrote:> Hi all, > > On the rails list I''ve seen that it''s hard to integrate Rails with > Apache > (especially apache2), that it''s hard to change the default port > (3000), and > that Apache runs Rails stuff slowly. > > Is it reasonable to run Rails stuff on Webrick while simultaneously > running > other stuff on Apache? How does one simultaneously run two rails > applications > on Webrick, when one must start webrick in the specific app''s > directory > (script/server)? > > Thanks > > SteveT > > Steve Litt > Author: > * Universal Troubleshooting Process courseware > * Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist > * Rapid Learning: Secret Weapon of the Successful Technologist > Webmaster > * Troubleshooters.Com > * http://www.troubleshooters.com > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails
I didn''t see any visual cues that would lead me to believe he was running Mac OS X which Locomotive is for. On the other hand if he''s using Windows he can try Instant Rails which is an all in one Rails dev environment complete with Apache / MySQL On 1/4/06, Bruce Balmer <brucebalmer@mac.com> wrote:> Steve: > > You can easily run different webrick apps at the same time by > specifying different port numbers. I find the EASIEST way to do this > is to run Locomotive. Locomotive is FREE and available from > sourceforge. Just put ruby rails locomotive into google. BY default > Locomotive runs lighttpd, which seems like a very capable Apache > equivalent (but I am no expert on such matters). Continue your > enquiry with the cognoscenti on this list, if you wish to ask about > the comparison. > > bruce > > > On 4-Jan-06, at 8:20 AM, Steve Litt wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > On the rails list I''ve seen that it''s hard to integrate Rails with > > Apache > > (especially apache2), that it''s hard to change the default port > > (3000), and > > that Apache runs Rails stuff slowly. > > > > Is it reasonable to run Rails stuff on Webrick while simultaneously > > running > > other stuff on Apache? How does one simultaneously run two rails > > applications > > on Webrick, when one must start webrick in the specific app''s > > directory > > (script/server)? > > > > Thanks > > > > SteveT > > > > Steve Litt > > Author: > > * Universal Troubleshooting Process courseware > > * Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist > > * Rapid Learning: Secret Weapon of the Successful Technologist > > Webmaster > > * Troubleshooters.Com > > * http://www.troubleshooters.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rails mailing list > > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >
Frank: You are absolutely right. I forgot it was not cross-platform. Thanks for setting me straight there. bruce On 4-Jan-06, at 9:12 AM, Frank Hale wrote:> I didn''t see any visual cues that would lead me to believe he was > running Mac OS X which Locomotive is for. > > On the other hand if he''s using Windows he can try Instant Rails which > is an all in one Rails dev environment complete with Apache / MySQL > > On 1/4/06, Bruce Balmer <brucebalmer@mac.com> wrote: >> Steve: >> >> You can easily run different webrick apps at the same time by >> specifying different port numbers. I find the EASIEST way to do this >> is to run Locomotive. Locomotive is FREE and available from >> sourceforge. Just put ruby rails locomotive into google. BY default >> Locomotive runs lighttpd, which seems like a very capable Apache >> equivalent (but I am no expert on such matters). Continue your >> enquiry with the cognoscenti on this list, if you wish to ask about >> the comparison. >> >> bruce >> >> >> On 4-Jan-06, at 8:20 AM, Steve Litt wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> On the rails list I''ve seen that it''s hard to integrate Rails with >>> Apache >>> (especially apache2), that it''s hard to change the default port >>> (3000), and >>> that Apache runs Rails stuff slowly. >>> >>> Is it reasonable to run Rails stuff on Webrick while simultaneously >>> running >>> other stuff on Apache? How does one simultaneously run two rails >>> applications >>> on Webrick, when one must start webrick in the specific app''s >>> directory >>> (script/server)? >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> SteveT >>> >>> Steve Litt >>> Author: >>> * Universal Troubleshooting Process courseware >>> * Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist >>> * Rapid Learning: Secret Weapon of the Successful Technologist >>> Webmaster >>> * Troubleshooters.Com >>> * http://www.troubleshooters.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Rails mailing list >>> Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org >>> http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Rails mailing list >> Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org >> http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >> > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails
Well neither is Instant Rails (at least not yet). I can''t wait until it is though. =)> You are absolutely right. I forgot it was not cross-platform. Thanks > for setting me straight there.
On Wednesday 04 January 2006 11:12 am, Frank Hale wrote:> I didn''t see any visual cues that would lead me to believe he was > running Mac OS X which Locomotive is for. > > On the other hand if he''s using Windows he can try Instant Rails which > is an all in one Rails dev environment complete with Apache / MySQLThanks Frank I''m running Linux (Mandrake currently) and expect any web hosts I use to run Linux or BSD also. How does that change the situation? Thanks SteveT Steve Litt Author: * Universal Troubleshooting Process courseware * Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist * Rapid Learning: Secret Weapon of the Successful Technologist Webmaster * Troubleshooters.Com * http://www.troubleshooters.com
well Rails is Rails is Rails... Haha. But the cool thing about Instant Rails / Locomotive is their easy install, they seem to come with everything one would need to get started easily. As far as IR goes it l looks like a future version will likely be cross platform and run on Linux. On linux I run Ruby 1.8.4, Rails 1.0.0 and Lighttpd / FastCGI which is pretty easy to get running and there is alot of information on the web about configuring it. On 1/4/06, Steve Litt <slitt@troubleshooters.com> wrote:> On Wednesday 04 January 2006 11:12 am, Frank Hale wrote: > > I didn''t see any visual cues that would lead me to believe he was > > running Mac OS X which Locomotive is for. > > > > On the other hand if he''s using Windows he can try Instant Rails which > > is an all in one Rails dev environment complete with Apache / MySQL > > Thanks Frank > > I''m running Linux (Mandrake currently) and expect any web hosts I use to run > Linux or BSD also. How does that change the situation? > > Thanks > > SteveT > > Steve Litt > Author: > * Universal Troubleshooting Process courseware > * Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist > * Rapid Learning: Secret Weapon of the Successful Technologist > Webmaster > * Troubleshooters.Com > * http://www.troubleshooters.com > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >
On Wednesday 04 January 2006 12:05 pm, Frank Hale wrote:> well Rails is Rails is Rails... Haha. But the cool thing about Instant > Rails / Locomotive is their easy install, they seem to come with > everything one would need to get started easily. As far as IR goes it > l looks like a future version will likely be cross platform and run on > Linux. > > On linux I run Ruby 1.8.4, Rails 1.0.0 and Lighttpd / FastCGI which is > pretty easy to get running and there is alot of information on the web > about configuring it.Does Lighttpd/FastCGI require setting a port number for each app? Thanks SteveT Steve Litt Author: * Universal Troubleshooting Process courseware * Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist * Rapid Learning: Secret Weapon of the Successful Technologist Webmaster * Troubleshooters.Com * http://www.troubleshooters.com
On Jan 4, 2006, at 9:39 AM, Steve Litt wrote:> On Wednesday 04 January 2006 12:05 pm, Frank Hale wrote: >> well Rails is Rails is Rails... Haha. But the cool thing about >> Instant >> Rails / Locomotive is their easy install, they seem to come with >> everything one would need to get started easily. As far as IR goes it >> l looks like a future version will likely be cross platform and >> run on >> Linux. >> >> On linux I run Ruby 1.8.4, Rails 1.0.0 and Lighttpd / FastCGI >> which is >> pretty easy to get running and there is alot of information on the >> web >> about configuring it. > > Does Lighttpd/FastCGI require setting a port number for each app? > > Thanks > > SteveT > > Steve LittSteve- You have a few different options for hosting multiple rails apps on one linux box. If you absolutely need apache then you go ahead and kep apache running on port 80. Then you can run lighttpd for each of your rails apps on a different port and proxy the requests thru apache. Or you can just run lighttpd and use its vhost capabilities to run different apps. Lets assume you want to use the apache->prox->lighttpd/fcgi method for now. Here are some example vhosts for apache that will proxy thru to lighttpd on a high port: Apache 1.3.x: <VirtualHost *:80> ServerName example.com ServerAlias www.example.com ProxyPass / http://localhost:8000/ ProxyPassReverse / http://localhost:8000/ </VirtualHost> Apache 2.x: <VirtualHost *:80> ServerAdmin webmaster@username.tld ServerName example.com:80 ProxyRequests Off ProxyPreserveHost On RewriteEngine On RewriteRule ^/(.*) http://127.0.0.1:3000/$1 [P,L] ProxyPassReverse / http://127.0.0.1:3000/ </VirtualHost> Then you can run one lighttpd instance for each rails app each on its own port. This gives you the advantage that you can restart each rails app individually without affecting the other apps. Also once you install lighttpd and make sure it is in your $PATH, script/server will use lighttpd instead of webrick by default. So all you need to do is install lighttpd and then run each of your apps behind an apache vhost by setting a port number for each app and then using this line to start each rails app: $ script/server -e production -p 8000 # or whatever you want for each app. Hope that helps you out a bit. This is one area of rails documentation that is sorely lacking. All the info is fragmented across a hundred blogs and each of these blogs contradict each other in some ways. So I am happy to tell you that I am writing a "Rails Deployment" book for the Pragmatic Programmers as we speak. Look for a beta pdf version in March. Cheers- -Ezra Zygmuntowicz Yakima Herald-Republic WebMaster http://yakimaherald.com 509-577-7732 ezra@yakima-herald.com PS. You can find more helpful info on rails configuration and deployment on my blog at: http://brainspl.at
In the lighttpd configuration you can map apps in however you want, based on host name, url, port, whatever. On 1/4/06, Steve Litt <slitt@troubleshooters.com> wrote:> > > > Does Lighttpd/FastCGI require setting a port number for each app? > >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://wrath.rubyonrails.org/pipermail/rails/attachments/20060104/1a79d2fe/attachment.html
Ezra Zygmuntowicz wrote:> On Jan 4, 2006, at 9:39 AM, Steve Litt wrote: >So I am happy to tell you that I am writing a "Rails> Deployment" book for the Pragmatic Programmers as we speak. Look for > a beta pdf version in March. >This sounds great! I am running Apache 2, MySQL 5 with PHP on Windows, and am looking for the best way to serve ROR without impacting the PHP stuff harshly... and am I mistaken but is Lighttpd not an option for Windows? I am also running the same setup on OS X as a dev environment and it would be great to have a simple (well even a single) way of setting all this up. I know about Instant Rails, Locomotive, etc, but I don''t want to "redo" my existing setup. Some help in the area of melding ROR in existing evnvironments (where changing the webs server or platform is not an option) can only help Ruby and ROR adoption. Look forward to the book! -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.