R help - Feb 2009 - New York Times - R - article a fraud?

I worked on some ad data before and I found NYT article very biaised and not far
from a fraud... Anyone knows if they got money from a - company -  to play
'R'?

Check out the title:   R U Ready for R?   Seems to me this title was stolen from
XLSolutions    www.xlsolutions-corp.com  and they never mentioned XLSolutions in
the article!

They mentioned commercial R....never mentioned  R-PLUS
(www.experience-rplus.com),  nor  RSTAT (http://random-technologies-llc.com).

I attended Trevor's class and his comment on the article is alarming:

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As a long time user of S, Splus and now R, I loved the article on R
until I read the paragraph on how it all started. 

I quote:
?According to them, the notion of devising something like R sprang up
during a hallway conversation. They both wanted technology better
suited for their statistics students, who needed to analyze data and
produce graphical models of the information. Most comparable software
had been designed by computer scientists and proved hard to use.?

This is grossly ungenerous to the original inventors of the wonderful S
language underlying the R system.
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I think R community should report this fraudulent article to the NYT ed board.
It's fraud, not journalism and someone has to say it!

1- They got money for it....fine it's business as usual (unless someone
knows someone and took some bribes). Yes... One company seems to appear many
many times in the article...
2- It's a 'free' article, then it's rubish as usual.

you should wait for the article on R by fox news

Calvin Trillin  - "Health food makes me sick."

On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 6:19 AM, eugene dalt <eugenedalt@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I worked on some ad data before and I found NYT article very biaised and
> not far from a fraud... Anyone knows if they got money from a - company -
>  to play 'R'?
>
> Check out the title:   R U Ready for R?   Seems to me this title was stolen
> from   XLSolutions    www.xlsolutions-corp.com  and they never mentioned
> XLSolutions in the article!
>
> They mentioned commercial R....never mentioned  R-PLUS (
> www.experience-rplus.com),  nor  RSTAT (http://random-technologies-llc.com
> ).
>
> I attended Trevor's class and his comment on the article is alarming:
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> As a long time user of S, Splus and now R, I loved the article on R
> until I read the paragraph on how it all started.
>
> I quote:
> "According to them, the notion of devising something like R sprang up
> during a hallway conversation. They both wanted technology better
> suited for their statistics students, who needed to analyze data and
> produce graphical models of the information. Most comparable software
> had been designed by computer scientists and proved hard to use."
>
> This is grossly ungenerous to the original inventors of the wonderful S
> language underlying the R system.
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> I think R community should report this fraudulent article to the NYT ed
> board. It's fraud, not journalism and someone has to say it!
>
> 1- They got money for it....fine it's business as usual (unless someone
> knows someone and took some bribes). Yes... One company seems to appear
many
> many times in the article...
> 2- It's a 'free' article, then it's rubish as usual.
>
>
>
>
>
> ______________________________________________
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Hi,

it seems to me that this article in the NYT started many discussions.
Maybe I missed it but are there some responses to the article by Ihaka &
Gentleman?
Or maybe by John Chambers as the central person for the development of S
(hope I am not mistaken here)?

I'd be more interested in their opinions than another "outrage!"
posting.

Thanks,
Roland

> -----Original Message-----
> From: r-help-bounces at r-project.org 
> [mailto:r-help-bounces at r-project.org] On Behalf Of eugene dalt
> Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 1:49 AM
> To: R-help at stat.math.ethz.ch
> Subject: [R] New York Times - R - article a fraud?
> 
> I worked on some ad data before and I found NYT article very 
> biaised and not far from a fraud... Anyone knows if they got 
> money from a - company -  to play 'R'?
> 
> Check out the title:   R U Ready for R?   Seems to me this 
> title was stolen from   XLSolutions    
> www.xlsolutions-corp.com  and they never mentioned 
> XLSolutions in the article!
> 
> They mentioned commercial R....never mentioned  R-PLUS 
> (www.experience-rplus.com),  nor  RSTAT 
> (http://random-technologies-llc.com). 
> 
> I attended Trevor's class and his comment on the article is alarming:
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> ---------
> As a long time user of S, Splus and now R, I loved the article on R
> until I read the paragraph on how it all started. 
> 
> I quote:
> "According to them, the notion of devising something like R sprang up
> during a hallway conversation. They both wanted technology better
> suited for their statistics students, who needed to analyze data and
> produce graphical models of the information. Most comparable software
> had been designed by computer scientists and proved hard to use."
> 
> This is grossly ungenerous to the original inventors of the 
> wonderful S
> language underlying the R system.
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> ---------
> 
> I think R community should report this fraudulent article to 
> the NYT ed board. It's fraud, not journalism and someone has 
> to say it! 
> 
> 1- They got money for it....fine it's business as usual 
> (unless someone knows someone and took some bribes). Yes... 
> One company seems to appear many many times in the article...
> 2- It's a 'free' article, then it's rubish as usual.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ______________________________________________
> R-help at r-project.org mailing list
> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help
> PLEASE do read the posting guide 
> http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html
> and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
> 
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