You may recall that there was a discussion of a technical report from the statistical consulting group at UCLA. I have a draft of a comment on that report, which you can get from http://www.burns-stat.com/pages/Flotsam/uclaRcomment_draft1.pdf I'm interested in comments: corrections, additions, deletions. Patrick Burns patrick at burns-stat.com +44 (0)20 8525 0696 http://www.burns-stat.com (home of S Poetry and "A Guide for the Unwilling S User")
Being a Stata user in transition to R I have to say that it would be fair to mention that data handling for large amounts of data might take an extra step in R. I understand that there are good reasons for R consuming more memory (than Stata) when handling large datasets, but it is necessary to warn the potential newcomers that they might require using MySQL or other database managers if they use large datasets. greetings robert On 1/27/06, Patrick Burns <pburns at pburns.seanet.com> wrote:> You may recall that there was a discussion of a technical > report from the statistical consulting group at UCLA. > > I have a draft of a comment on that report, which you > can get from > http://www.burns-stat.com/pages/Flotsam/uclaRcomment_draft1.pdf > > I'm interested in comments: corrections, additions, deletions. > > Patrick Burns > patrick at burns-stat.com > +44 (0)20 8525 0696 > http://www.burns-stat.com > (home of S Poetry and "A Guide for the Unwilling S User") > > ______________________________________________ > R-help at stat.math.ethz.ch mailing list > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > PLEASE do read the posting guide! http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html >
Dear Patrick: Thanks for doing this. Just picking nits: To end the second paragraph in Sec. 2, you say, "If your goal is to find what is in your data, then almost surely R will be the best tool for you sooner or later." I think this is an overstatement. R is for people who can't easily get what they want from standard packages, either because they can't afford it or because they want to explore data analysis possibilities beyond those offered by the package(s) available to them. You clearly paint a more balanced view in the rest of the manuscript, and apart from this one comment, what you wrote sounds sensible to me. Best Wishes, Spencer Graves Patrick Burns wrote:> You may recall that there was a discussion of a technical > report from the statistical consulting group at UCLA. > > I have a draft of a comment on that report, which you > can get from > http://www.burns-stat.com/pages/Flotsam/uclaRcomment_draft1.pdf > > I'm interested in comments: corrections, additions, deletions. > > Patrick Burns > patrick at burns-stat.com > +44 (0)20 8525 0696 > http://www.burns-stat.com > (home of S Poetry and "A Guide for the Unwilling S User") > > ______________________________________________ > R-help at stat.math.ethz.ch mailing list > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > PLEASE do read the posting guide! http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html
Hi!
I suggest that you look in fortune package and you could add some of
frotunes to this report. I think thay say a lot. I would just like to
add my story. I started stats with SAS and when I heard of R I, being a
open source fan, imidiatelly tried it. It was a real pain and I
abandoned that idea completely, although I really tried hard. Now I know
that my problem was wish to move to R, but not accepting its logic and
wish to do that in "one" day. Then I had to do a simple thing in SAS
and
I realized that I do not know how to do it in SAS. Just a quick look in
R solved my problem and I took about one month of slow study and I am
not sorry for that. It really is important to change the approach. Of
course there are pros and cons, but I would say that one of the fortunes
that involve comparison of various software solutions and money tells it
all.
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Lep pozdrav / With regards,
Gregor Gorjanc
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