Hello all, It seems that the next improvement to the R Graph Gallery is categorization of the graphics, that way each graph will be easier to find. That step should be done *carefully* if we want to avoid the opposite side-effect : graph not reachable through the categories. That's why the wisdom of the R community is required. Graphics will be classified in : - categories - sub-categories within those categories So far so good. The problem is the determination of those categories and sub-categories. Any thoughts are welcome. The gallery now has a TODO/WISHLIST : http://addictedtor.free.fr/graphiques/WISHLIST.php that waits for your accurate comments. Regards. Romain -- visit the R Graph Gallery : http://addictedtor.free.fr/graphiques ~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~ Romain FRANCOIS - http://addictedtor.free.fr ~~~~~~ ~~~~ Etudiant ISUP - CS3 - Industrie et Services ~~~~ ~~ http://www.isup.cicrp.jussieu.fr/ ~~ ~~~~ Stagiaire INRIA Futurs - Equipe SELECT ~~~~ ~~~~~~ http://www.inria.fr/recherche/equipes/select.fr.html ~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~
On Mon, 6 Jun 2005, Romain Francois wrote:>Hello all, > >It seems that the next improvement to the R Graph Gallery is >categorization of the graphics, that way each graph will be easier to >find. That step should be done *carefully* if we want to avoid the >opposite side-effect : graph not reachable through the categories. >That's why the wisdom of the R community is required. >Graphics will be classified in : > - categories > - sub-categories within those categories >So far so good. >The problem is the determination of those categories and sub-categories. >Any thoughts are welcome. > >The gallery now has a TODO/WISHLIST : >http://addictedtor.free.fr/graphiques/WISHLIST.php that waits for your >accurate comments.I would humbly suggest that the underlying data (graphs/categories/etc) be organized in such a way as to allow multiple categorizations. That way there could be any number of different categorizations applied to the same graphs, as one overall categorization may reflect only one particular viewpoint. This way the chosen categories (however you decide to choose) would not be set in stone, but would be intimatly flexible. Also a single graph should be allowed to occur under multiple categories of a particular categorization. Just what I would like to see :) Dan.> >Regards. > >Romain > > > >
Romain Francois wrote:> Graphics will be classified in : > - categories > - sub-categories within those categories > So far so good.Maybe, maybe not! Would a system of keywords work better than strict hierarchical categories, as long as plots can have more than one keyword attached? Someone might be interested in all 3d plots, or all plots related to model fitting, and these categories may not be distinct! Barry
Romain Francois <francoisromain at free.fr> writes:> Hello all, > > It seems that the next improvement to the R Graph Gallery is > categorization of the graphics, that way each graph will be easier to > find. That step should be done *carefully* if we want to avoid the > opposite side-effect : graph not reachable through the categories. > That's why the wisdom of the R community is required. > Graphics will be classified in : > - categories > - sub-categories within those categories > So far so good. > The problem is the determination of those categories and sub-categories. > Any thoughts are welcome. > > The gallery now has a TODO/WISHLIST : > http://addictedtor.free.fr/graphiques/WISHLIST.php that waits for your > accurate comments.BTW, shouldn't there a way there from http://addictedtor.free.fr ? I seem to get stuck on the home page with nothing to click (except "R" and the labels on the left). -- O__ ---- Peter Dalgaard Blegdamsvej 3 c/ /'_ --- Dept. of Biostatistics 2200 Cph. N (*) \(*) -- University of Copenhagen Denmark Ph: (+45) 35327918 ~~~~~~~~~~ - (p.dalgaard at biostat.ku.dk) FAX: (+45) 35327907
On Mon, 6 Jun 2005, Dan Bolser wrote:> On Mon, 6 Jun 2005, Romain Francois wrote:...> >It seems that the next improvement to the R Graph Gallery is > >categorization of the graphics, that way each graph will be easier to > >find. That step should be done *carefully* if we want to avoid the > >opposite side-effect : graph not reachable through the categories....> > I would humbly suggest that the underlying data (graphs/categories/etc) be > organized in such a way as to allow multiple categorizations. That way > there could be any number of different categorizations applied to the same > graphs, as one overall categorization may reflect only one particular > viewpoint.Heartily seconded!> This way the chosen categories (however you decide to choose) would not be > set in stone, but would be intimatly flexible. > > Also a single graph should be allowed to occur under multiple categories > of a particular categorization.... An example of non-hierarchical categorization is the keyword-categorization method used by Wikis. See http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?CategoryCategory for an example. If a graph could be in multiple categories (3d, social science, color, publication ready/published) it could be identified with multiple keywords and dynamically listed in each of the sub-galleries. Dave -- Dr. David Forrest drf at vims.edu (804)684-7900w drf5n at maplepark.com (804)642-0662h http://maplepark.com/~drf5n/
On Mon, 6 Jun 2005, David Forrest wrote:>On Mon, 6 Jun 2005, Dan Bolser wrote: > >> On Mon, 6 Jun 2005, Romain Francois wrote: >... >> >It seems that the next improvement to the R Graph Gallery is >> >categorization of the graphics, that way each graph will be easier to >> >find. That step should be done *carefully* if we want to avoid the >> >opposite side-effect : graph not reachable through the categories. >... >> >> I would humbly suggest that the underlying data (graphs/categories/etc) be >> organized in such a way as to allow multiple categorizations. That way >> there could be any number of different categorizations applied to the same >> graphs, as one overall categorization may reflect only one particular >> viewpoint. > >Heartily seconded! > >> This way the chosen categories (however you decide to choose) would not be >> set in stone, but would be intimatly flexible. >> >> Also a single graph should be allowed to occur under multiple categories >> of a particular categorization. >... > >An example of non-hierarchical categorization is the >keyword-categorization method used by Wikis. See >http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?CategoryCategory for an example.MediaWiki has a nice system of categorization, it also makes galleries of images which have been categorized. It could be nice to have a mediaWiki R page...> >If a graph could be in multiple categories (3d, social science, color, >publication ready/published) it could be identified with multiple keywords >and dynamically listed in each of the sub-galleries. > >Dave >
I like the wiki idea! Does it make sense to connect the graph wiki to the existing R wiki? (http://fawn.unibw-hamburg.de/cgi-bin/Rwiki.pl?RwikiHome) This might give the existing wiki a kickstart with some very valuable content. I realize they are maintained by different people but the whole point of a wiki is to foster collaboration. Just 2 cents . . . ~Nick -----Original Message----- From: r-help-bounces at stat.math.ethz.ch [mailto:r-help-bounces at stat.math.ethz.ch]On Behalf Of Sander Oom Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 2:37 AM To: Chris Evans Cc: R-help at stat.math.ethz.ch Subject: Re: [R] R Graph Gallery : categorization of the graphs I agree that a wiki to facilitate submission of graph code could be very effective! Still needs to be well protected against vandalism. Seems a regular backup, to facilitate a clean restore, is the best approach. Romain, would you be willing to set up a wiki within the gallery. Think the wiki and gallery should be close to each other in cyber space! I use DokuWiki privately and it works wonders. Guess the database design will require a bit of thought. For each graph it should be possible to enter multiple categories and sub-categories. then the gallery interface should dynamically build galleries using these categories. Not sure if you would want to create 'meta' categories to facilitate multiple categorization approaches!? We could start with a limited list such as suggested by Chris to populate the gallery in the first instance. Pleased to see this progress!! Sander. __________________________________ Get on-the-go sports scores, stock quotes, news and more. Check it out!
On Tue, 7 Jun 2005, David Forrest wrote:>On Tue, 7 Jun 2005, Dan Bolser wrote: >... >> I agree, but its hard to get people contributing without something >> centralized (some central autohrity). The problem with the existing wiki >> >> http://fawn.unibw-hamburg.de/cgi-bin/Rwiki.pl?RwikiHome >> >> Is that it currenlty does not support images (afaik). > >Counterexample: > >http://fawn.unibw-hamburg.de/cgi-bin/Rwiki.pl?Tips_And_ExamplesGreat! We would need an image bin to support this though (for the average user).> > >Dave >
On Tue, 7 Jun 2005, Dan Bolser wrote:> On Tue, 7 Jun 2005, David Forrest wrote: > > >On Tue, 7 Jun 2005, Dan Bolser wrote: > >... > >> I agree, but its hard to get people contributing without something > >> centralized (some central autohrity). The problem with the existing wiki > >> > >> http://fawn.unibw-hamburg.de/cgi-bin/Rwiki.pl?RwikiHome > >> > >> Is that it currenlty does not support images (afaik). > > > >Counterexample: > > > >http://fawn.unibw-hamburg.de/cgi-bin/Rwiki.pl?Tips_And_Examples > > Great! > > We would need an image bin to support this though (for the average user).Something like http://www.imageshack.us/ perhaps? http://img97.echo.cx/img97/4207/teapot24fl.png or http://img97.echo.cx/my.php?image=teapot24fl.png Dave -- Dr. David Forrest drf at vims.edu (804)684-7900w drf5n at maplepark.com (804)642-0662h http://maplepark.com/~drf5n/
On Tue, 7 Jun 2005, Dan Bolser wrote: ...> >http://fawn.unibw-hamburg.de/cgi-bin/Rwiki.pl?Tips_And_Examples > > Great! > > We would need an image bin to support this though (for the average user).Hi Dan & all http://fawn.unibw-hamburg.de/cgi-bin/Rwiki.pl?UsePictures This page demonstrates the use of pictures and the use of a public image server for hosting graphics files. Dave -- Dr. David Forrest drf at vims.edu (804)684-7900w drf5n at maplepark.com (804)642-0662h http://maplepark.com/~drf5n/