R help - Jun 2005 - How to calculate the correct SE in a nested or spliplot anova?

Hi!

How to calculate the correct SE of mean in a nested or spliplot anova?

Nested example:
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m <-
aov(Glycogen~Treatment+Error(Treatment/Rat/Liver))
> m
Call:
aov(formula = Glycogen ~ Treatment + Error(Treatment/Rat/Liver))

Grand Mean: 142.2222 

Stratum 1: Treatment

Terms:
                Treatment
Sum of Squares   1557.556
Deg. of Freedom         2

Estimated effects may be unbalanced

Stratum 2: Treatment:Rat

Terms:
                Residuals
Sum of Squares   797.6667
Deg. of Freedom         3

Residual standard error: 16.3061 

Stratum 3: Treatment:Rat:Liver

Terms:
                Residuals
Sum of Squares        594
Deg. of Freedom        12

Residual standard error: 7.035624 

Stratum 4: Within

Terms:
                Residuals
Sum of Squares        381
Deg. of Freedom        18

Residual standard error: 4.600725 
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I need to make a barplot with error bar for treatment. How to calculate the 
correct SE?

SplitPLot example:
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> m <- 
aov(yield~irrigation*density*fertilizer+Error(block/irrigation/density/fertilizer))
> m
Call:
aov(formula = yield ~ irrigation * density * fertilizer + 
Error(block/irrigation/density/fertilizer))

Grand Mean: 99.72222 

Stratum 1: block

Terms:
                Residuals
Sum of Squares   194.4444
Deg. of Freedom         3

Residual standard error: 8.050765 

Stratum 2: block:irrigation

Terms:
                irrigation Residuals
Sum of Squares    8277.556  1411.778
Deg. of Freedom          1         3

Residual standard error: 21.69315 
8 out of 9 effects not estimable
Estimated effects are balanced

Stratum 3: block:irrigation:density

Terms:
                 density irrigation:density Residuals
Sum of Squares  1758.361           2747.028  2787.944
Deg. of Freedom        2                  2        12

Residual standard error: 15.24233 
8 out of 12 effects not estimable
Estimated effects may be unbalanced

Stratum 4: block:irrigation:density:fertilizer

Terms:
                fertilizer irrigation:fertilizer density:fertilizer
Sum of Squares   1977.4444              953.4444           304.8889
Deg. of Freedom          2                     2                  4
                irrigation:density:fertilizer Residuals
Sum of Squares                       234.7222 3108.8333
Deg. of Freedom                             4        36

Residual standard error: 9.292819 
Estimated effects may be unbalanced
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I need the SE for each combination. How to calculate this?

Thanks for all.
Ronaldo
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