R help - Jul 2004 - Transparent backgrounds in png files

The result I'm aiming to achieve is a bitmap that can be imported into
a PowerPoint file that shows what's behind the lines of the plot.
There's a way in PowerPoint that almost works.  By choosing a colour
to set as transparent, what is behind the graphic is indeed visible,
but it's at the expense of losing line and text definition.

I notice there have been discussions about transparent backgrounds
mostly with lattice plots.  The problem most people seem to have was
getting a blue background when they wanted a white one.

Mine is the reverse (and I'm using standard graphics, not Lattice).
I'm trying to get a transparent background but it always comes out
white.  Setting bg = "transparent", I've tried using a bitmap
device
to create a png file.  I've also tried creating a postscript file and
converting it to a PNG file using the Gimp.  I've always used a
resolution of 300 dpi in bitmaps since the default is far too low.

Other ideas appreciated.
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system   i686, linux-gnu  
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major    1                
minor    9.1              
year     2004             
month    06               
day      21               
language R                



Thanks.

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The bitmap() device does not support transparency.  The png() device does.

On Thu, 29 Jul 2004, Patrick Connolly wrote:
> The result I'm aiming to achieve is a bitmap that can be imported into
> a PowerPoint file that shows what's behind the lines of the plot.
> There's a way in PowerPoint that almost works.  By choosing a colour
> to set as transparent, what is behind the graphic is indeed visible,
> but it's at the expense of losing line and text definition.
> 
> I notice there have been discussions about transparent backgrounds
> mostly with lattice plots.  The problem most people seem to have was
> getting a blue background when they wanted a white one.
> 
> Mine is the reverse (and I'm using standard graphics, not Lattice).
> I'm trying to get a transparent background but it always comes out
> white.  Setting bg = "transparent", I've tried using a bitmap
device
> to create a png file.  I've also tried creating a postscript file and
> converting it to a PNG file using the Gimp.  I've always used a
> resolution of 300 dpi in bitmaps since the default is far too low.
Really?  You want PNG files of 2000+ pixels in each dimension?  (The
standard size of an R plot is 7", and at 72dpi that is a reasonable size
for on-screen use -- and you should not really be using bitmapped files
for other uses.)

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