R help - Jun 2004 - Error with arima()

Could someone please give a brief explanation, or pointer to an explanation,
of the following error:
> arima(ts.growth, order = c(1,0,0),include.mean=T)
Error in arima(ts.growth, order = c(1, 0, 0), include.mean = T) :
        non-stationary AR part from CSS

and why it does not arise with
> arima0(ts.growth, order = c(1,0,0))
Many thanks

____________________________
Dr. Daniel P. Bebber
Department of Plant Sciences
University of Oxford
South Parks Road
Oxford
OX1 3RB

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It means that the CSS estimates from the model are invalid.  That's 
possible as CSS does not enforce validity.  It probably means the model is 
inappropriate.

On Thu, 17 Jun 2004, Dan Bebber wrote:
> Could someone please give a brief explanation, or pointer to an
explanation,
> of the following error:
> 
> > arima(ts.growth, order = c(1,0,0),include.mean=T)
> Error in arima(ts.growth, order = c(1, 0, 0), include.mean = T) :
>         non-stationary AR part from CSS
> 
> and why it does not arise with
> 
> > arima0(ts.growth, order = c(1,0,0))
Not the same algorithm.  These algorithms only find a local minimum.

You are asking the question the wrong way round: unless you know there is 
uniquely defined estimator, why would you expect the same results?  
Especially if the model is a poor fit.

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