Hello... Curious to know whether the TK extensions “Tktable” and “Iwidgets” will be included in future versions of R (full installation). These are key components of GUI construction and would be very useful in my current R-tcltk endeavors. I realize that I could just install a version of ActiveTcl, which includes the extensions; however, my goal is to eventually distribute my work keeping installation procedures at a minimum. I do have one question for individuals working with R and Tcl/Tk on Windows XP. Has anyone experienced corrupted GUI’s (lost widgets) after invoking a tkpack command (e.g. missing buttons). My web searches on the subject leave me wondering if it’s a Windo$e problem. Any ideas? Thank you, Jason PS: Inclusion of the Tcl/Tk within the R 1.7.0 installation has been greatly appreciated. *************************************** Jason C. Fisher UCLA Graduate Student Civil & Environmental Engineering Dept. 5731 Boelter Hall Box 951593 Los Angeles, CA 90095-1593 Email: stormplot at hotmail.com
On Tue, 20 May 2003, Jason Fisher wrote:> Curious to know whether the TK extensions ?Tktable? and ?Iwidgets? will be > included in future versions of R (full installation). These are keyOn Windows? Only if that is an offer to take over the provision and testing of R_Tcl.zip.> components of GUI construction and would be very useful in my current > R-tcltk endeavors. I realize that I could just install a version of > ActiveTcl, which includes the extensions; however, my goal is to eventually > distribute my work keeping installation procedures at a minimum.Um, that sounds like a very lazy approach: `let me make work for the R volunteers to keep my own work to a minimum'. You seem to misunderstand the R project. -- Brian D. Ripley, ripley at stats.ox.ac.uk Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/ University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self) 1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272866 (PA) Oxford OX1 3TG, UK Fax: +44 1865 272595
Hello... In regards to Professor Ripley's comments, perhaps you misunderstand my intentions. My belief is that R is an incredible programming language which has been created from an enormous amount of hard work from people like you. I've been working off and on with S+ for about three years and R for the last year. Much of my work in the past six months has been on the development of a graphics tool (GWplot) for the analysis of groundwater flow and transport models. The software relies heavily upon both the RODBC (MySQL) and tcltk packages, both of which are working incredibly stable on my Windows XP machine. I know, you had enough of my praises for R, where's the goods you ask... What have I given to the R community? As of yet, I'm disappointed to say, almost nothing at all. Due to the unpredictable nature of civil engineering coarse requirements, I've been unable to focus on a single R project for very long. This has changed given that I'm solely working toward my dissertation at this point in time. I can only assure you that all of my code and software will be submitted (with documentation) to the R community in the near future. The number of hours I've put into this project has been enormous. Furthermore, I accept your offer and would gladly take over the provision and testing of the R_Tcl.zip. I’m not sure if I'm the perfect one for the job; however, working with Tcl/Tk has been a real pleasure so far. Thanks for your time, Jason>On Windows? Only if that is an offer to take over the provision and >testing of R_Tcl.zip.>Um, that sounds like a very lazy approach: `let me make work for the R >volunteers to keep my own work to a minimum'. You seem to misunderstand >the R project.*************************************** Jason C. Fisher UCLA Graduate Student Civil & Environmental Engineering Dept. 5731 Boelter Hall Box 951593 Los Angeles, CA 90095-1593 Email: stormplot at hotmail.com
"Jason Fisher" <stormplot at hotmail.com> writes:> Hello... > > Curious to know whether the TK extensions ?Tktable? and > ?Iwidgets? will be included in future versions of R (full > installation). These are key components of GUI construction and would > be very useful in my current R-tcltk endeavors. I realize that I > could just install a version of ActiveTcl, which includes the > extensions; however, my goal is to eventually distribute my work > keeping installation procedures at a minimum. > > I do have one question for individuals working with R and Tcl/Tk on > Windows XP. Has anyone experienced corrupted GUI?s (lost widgets) > after invoking a tkpack command (e.g. missing buttons). My web > searches on the subject leave me wondering if it?s a Windo$e problem. > Any ideas? > > Thank you, > Jason > > PS: Inclusion of the Tcl/Tk within the R 1.7.0 installation has been > greatly appreciated.This stuff is, well, "under consideration". I've been wanting to have the Tktable package in there too (for one thing, it could give us an alternative data editor in a page or two of code). However, I'm not sure how far we want to follow the route of adding external libraries to the R sources, so it might be better to add them in the form of R packages. Volunteers into figuring out how to do this in the Windows DLL world are welcome... -- O__ ---- Peter Dalgaard Blegdamsvej 3 c/ /'_ --- Dept. of Biostatistics 2200 Cph. N (*) \(*) -- University of Copenhagen Denmark Ph: (+45) 35327918 ~~~~~~~~~~ - (p.dalgaard at biostat.ku.dk) FAX: (+45) 35327907